I don't have an exact numbers. But over 300 residential and 20+ business customers. some business customers are running vbox with windows for quickbooks pro and peachtree in those cases they do nothing else in vbox/windows no browsing or any of that. none have migrated back...what I get is they go out and purchase new pcs and come back to me immediately to put the latest Ubuntu again.
300+ Ubuntu residential installations and many business desktops/laptops and counting. When I approach an infected Windows computer I suggest a migration from windows to Ubuntu. I charge the same price to clean windows or migrate to Ubuntu. When they realise that they don't have to keep paying me to come back and clean windows again and again they chose to go with the migration to Ubuntu and are quite happy with their choice. Almost every one of them have not heard of Linux until I come along and give them the option.
So the only way for microsoft to get its OS onto tablets and phones is to sue manufacturers into a "deal" and when they refuse and fight back then just pay them a lot of money to use Windows instead of a competitors O/S. Guess I won't be recommending any Windows nook to anyone when that comes out.
There may be more freedom in it for the distributor of the software to not disclose source code but it does not guarantee code freedom. It does not guarantee that the code remains free. BSD is not a free software license. It's open source not free software.
"reach into someone else's pocket and give that to charity."
That is not what the contraception debate has been about. Ok help me understand how if someone's employer insurance plan includes contraception coverage is reaching into your pocket and giving it to charity.
Jesus on Taxes.
"For truly I say upon to you... Render on to Ceasar what is Caesar's...Render on to the father what is his."
Jesus on the rich.
A rich man approached Jesus. "Teacher how can I enter heaven."
Jesus: "Sell everything you own and give all the money to the poor and the needy. Then you can enter the kingdom of god"
Jesus re-affirms : "For truly I say upon to you. It is much easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle that it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god"
I think Jesus was very very adamant about helping the poor and about the ability for anyone to enter the "kingdom of god" without selling all their riches and giving the proceeds to the poor.
I think what you are missing is that the discussion about birth control had absolutely nothing to do with you paying for it. Even though Republican politicians and conservative media would love you to continue believing that is what the discussion was about. The discussion was whether corporations and non-profits including (religious institutions) can refuse coverage of contraceptives on an employee insurance plan. This has absolutely nothing to do with you subsidising anyone's birth control at all. Everyone has to pay and no one that pays should be refused and corporations refusing coverage was what kicked off all of this contraception fiasco. And the Republicans keep digging a deeper hole with American women by introducing bills to allow employers to not cover contraception on employee plans on religious grounds and vaginal probe/ultrasound bills. The problem for the Republicans and those who stay glued to nothing but conservative media is that women realise what is going on. They have not been misinformed by the conservative reality distortion field.
This BS about the gulf war never ended and we were just continuing it is a bunch of crap that only morons believe. Even Curveball has come clean about how the Bush/Cheney Iraq war was sold to the American public. We had control of the Northern and Southern no fly zones there and they moved military equipment into those zones and that was bombed regurlarly. We had control over two thirds of the countries airspace. All this before the republicans decided to lie to use about aluminium tubes and yellow cake and mobile chemical weapons trucks, and stockpiles and stockpiles "There are stockpiles and we know where they are" All of them blatant lies.
Actually if you care to be factually correct you could mention that Palin was being ridiculed because her answer to the question of her being qualified to be the Vice President and possibly President was...as you say "There are places in Alaska from which one can see Russia."
That was, as you know, a ridiculous answer to simple yet serious question. It's an insinuation that if one is within proximity to a foreign country whether its Mexico, Russia, or Canada then they must be qualified for those offices. You give a ridiculous answer to a serious question then the answer is ridiculous and therefor you are ridiculed and made a mockery of.
As far as the "I can see Russia from my house." quote goes that came from a comedy show. (Saturday Night Live)
I do agree that if you repeat a lie long enough and spread from cable news to talk radio then the faithful will believe it as fact as demonstrated by the fact that half of Republican voters believe that the current President is a Muslim. The Right seems to very skilled in this area.
Yes but the person that introduced SOPA is a staunch conservative....Lamar Smith (R-Tx) Yeah Texas no less. So we have a liberal from Ct and a Conservative from Tx What exactly is your point?
Yeah it's like those people I see at gun shows with Reagan on their T-shirts. Or all those people with a pic of MLK on their shirts and hats. Scary real scary its almost like a cult ain't it?/s
Obama is a bad guy because he is like Bush, not because he is unlike Bush. Lots of people ALSO hated him because he is black, but the truth is that he is a wholly owned tool of the corporate interests that own all our presidents.
I'm not sure he is as wholly owned by corporate interests as the Republicans *all of them* are. If you look at it rationally anyway. I don't see the Republicans trying their best to remove tax payer subsidies from "Big Oil" who are allegedly making record profits on $4 a gallon gas. I don't see the Republicans trying to regulate Wall ST toxic products. I don't see the Republicans forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions and not dropping people when they file a claim. I don't see the corporate insurance lobby running ads in favor of Obama. They do for the Republicans though. I don't see Obama attempting to give corporate CEOs a massive tax break. I see the corporate lobby group the US Chamber of Commerce running ads on TV in an attempt to oust Obama and the Democrats and replace them with Republicans. Even the traditional owners of the Democrats the RIAA/MPAA got a bitter pill when Obama pushed back against their beloved SOPA/PIPA and that is with their bought and paid for puppet tool Joe Biden as Vice President. I could go on and on but it looks to me like the corporate lobby puppet masters are running away from Obama to the Republicans as fast as they can.
Actually...No it wasn't Gene guns have been around since the 80s hardly Novel 20 years ago. Also the patent is not on the method. The Patents are on the genetic combination. Combining genes to produce crop is hardly novel. Patents on a specific combination/arrangement of genes should have never been filed and should have never been granted. Also since the Supreme Court just said you cannot patent nature all these life-form patents should be ruled invalid. I can't see how anyone can support the patenting of a crop that can contaminate natural crops hereby giving the patent owner control of all the contaminated crops. Unless of course they have a financial stake in the matter that is...you know...such as owning stock in Monsanto, work for Monsanto, or trolling for Monsanto(Public Relations) and that includes forum and social media operations.
What Monsanto does is they take naturally occurring genes from an bacterium that allows plants to be resistant to Round-Up and blast them randomly into the plant genome with a gene gun. Hardly novel, Hardly non-obvious. When you purchase Monsanto seed you have to sign a license agreement. That License agreement among other things says that you must pay Monsanto a license fee per hectare of land that you plant the purchased seed, You must allow Monsanto's police force on your land in every storage building on your land for up to 3 years after you quit using their seed. If you sell seed cleaners that allow farmers to replant seeds or or offer a seed cleaning service then Monsanto will sue you out of business claiming you encourage farmers to violate their patents. Their lying and hiding results that they found regarding the effects of their specific product on living systems in their labs. Monsanto's business practices has driven me to purchase more and more organic and NON-GMO products. I also quit using Round-Up on my property. I don't want to give them my money if I can help it.
I think what the outrage is that if It was a black man that shot a white guy the black man would be still in jail probably under the jail. I think the fact that he is walking free during all of this outrages people.
I quit purchasing all MPAA and RIAA content after the SOPA/PIPA/Megaupload fiasco. Will not purchase their content ever again and am doing everything in my power to convince people I know not to purchase their content. Then I see this article and it just re-confirms that I am on the right track. Fuckem. I'll give my money to the EFF.
That describes every variety on the planet, GE or not. If I'm growing Blue Bonnet rice and you're growing a modern, non-GE, not-from-Monsanto hybrid, I can still get, say, the sd-1 gene from your rice. What if I don't want that gene?
The difference here which you neglect to mention is that Monsanto actively trespasses onto farmland and collect samples in an effort to sue any contaminated non-Monsanto farmer out of business through the use of patents.
Industry types and those of us who know enough about agriculture to know what the word means.
Read lobbyists and public relation departments of massive multinationals like Monsanto that aim to own all the "intellectual property" behind all food staples throughout the world. Not the actual people on the ground. Farmers that are getting battered with patents from Monsanto. People like Troy Roush the VP of the American Corn Growers Association Troy Roush has said as much and he is a 6th generation soy and corn farmer.
Mandatory labeling of food as non-vegan, non-Kosher, or Haram is also not favorable to industry, nor is labeling if something is produced via embryo rescue, mutagenesis, induced polyploidy, somaclonal variation, or any other plant improvement method.
Industry attempts to equate selective breeding with genetic modification is madness. The scope here is totally different and they know it. Its a cynical attempt to mislead the public into thinking that "oh its all the same" just like "sugar is sugar" right? Its not the same. In the case of Round Up Ready products you have genes that are taken from a bacterium and randomly inserted into the genome of soy and corn in order to make them Round-Up resistant. Selective breeding is totally not the same as that.
But it does. If you think patents are unique to genetic engineering I suggest you pick up a wholesale catalog and see how many plants have royalty fees, their existence brought about by the protection of plant patents.
Patenting life forms should not be allowed. And the supreme court is correct that just rearranging genes is not an "invention" Also randomly inserting a gene from a bacterium into a plant is not novel and non-obvious.
I'm saying that never happened. Yes, there have been lawsuits. The notion they were over simple cross pollination is an internet myth.
So you are saying that the leaked and verified Monsanto internal documents are a myth? They said that about PCBs too remember? And oh its a myth that Dioxins are linked to some cancers.
Ant there's a reason we say the rise of hybrid seed in the last century. You think that even involves genetic engineering? Read up on the history of breeding.
I understand the history of breeding. So tell me how do you cross-breed a specific set of genes that exist in a specific bacterium into a plant naturally?
If people are planting non-Monsanto crops and Monsanto seed pollinates their crop then the Monsanto trans-gene will be in the pollinated crop and therefore the non-Monsanto crop is contaminated with the Monsanto trans-gene. This is a fact. Only industry types are pushing back against that fact because the world "contamination" is not favourable just like labelling foods GMO is not desirable by the industry and their lobbyists.
It has nothing to do with Red Delicious apples however I would like to know which ones of those "Red Delicious apples" are not ripened with ethylene gas you know?
The assumption that the motivation for genetic engineering is because of patents does a dis-service to many who spend their lives in the field. It's like claiming software exists because of patents. Its laughable. Farmers have been developing and saving their seed for replanting the next crop for over 2000 years and for a company like Monsanto to come along and systematically shutdown that practice through the use of patents and litigation happy lawyers and contamination of farms that refuse to license their product and suing them out of existence you are saying that this is good? It's good that Monsanto controls the "intellectual property" of most of the corn and soy planted in North America? Its good that Monsanto found problems with their product in the labs and hid them from the public? What about all the fertility problems with animal tests that were swept under the rug? You cheer for this? I have no problem with genetic engineering I have a problem with the current practices of Monsanto in the marketplace and not only that they have a terrible history. They said PCPs were safe. It was not. Agent Orange was safe it was not, Round-up was biodegradable, it is not. and on and on and they are fighting tooth and nail to stop any effort to label products that have a trans-gene from a frigging bacterium inserted in them. It's just best that we not allow patents on life-forms.
Well these days its Apple and Microsoft that are in the news for privacy violations from iPhone Apps to Microsoft mail censoring links. But of course no outrage from bonch on any of that. Of course not.
The fact that you can take a gene from one life form, insert it into another life form and patent the result, and sue others when your genetic combination contaminates their property is totally ludicrous. However it is the law as Monsanto has purchased it and we all have to live by the law. Unless we the people lobby to get the law changed Monsanto will continue unabated until all food staples become Monsanto's "intellectual Property" and you wont be able to plant anything useful without paying a license fee to plant and purchase seeds that bring a risk of you getting sued for re-using them. Did you know that when you "license" Monsanto seeds you must allow the Monsanto police force on your property for up to 3 years after ceasing using their seeds? That's one gem from their "Round-UP Ready " EULA. The Monsanto EULA is ridiculously comical but its dead serious and their lawyers are brutal. Fun times ahead. Lets hope the "You can't patent nature" rule sticks and this applies to Monsanto and other litigation happy patent abusers that try to own life.
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I don't have an exact numbers. But over 300 residential and 20+ business customers. some business customers are running vbox with windows for quickbooks pro and peachtree in those cases they do nothing else in vbox/windows no browsing or any of that. none have migrated back...what I get is they go out and purchase new pcs and come back to me immediately to put the latest Ubuntu again.
300+ Ubuntu residential installations and many business desktops/laptops and counting. When I approach an infected Windows computer I suggest a migration from windows to Ubuntu. I charge the same price to clean windows or migrate to Ubuntu. When they realise that they don't have to keep paying me to come back and clean windows again and again they chose to go with the migration to Ubuntu and are quite happy with their choice. Almost every one of them have not heard of Linux until I come along and give them the option.
So the only way for microsoft to get its OS onto tablets and phones is to sue manufacturers into a "deal" and when they refuse and fight back then just pay them a lot of money to use Windows instead of a competitors O/S. Guess I won't be recommending any Windows nook to anyone when that comes out.
There may be more freedom in it for the distributor of the software to not disclose source code but it does not guarantee code freedom. It does not guarantee that the code remains free. BSD is not a free software license. It's open source not free software.
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"reach into someone else's pocket and give that to charity." That is not what the contraception debate has been about. Ok help me understand how if someone's employer insurance plan includes contraception coverage is reaching into your pocket and giving it to charity.
Jesus on Taxes.
"For truly I say upon to you... Render on to Ceasar what is Caesar's...Render on to the father what is his."
Jesus on the rich.
A rich man approached Jesus. "Teacher how can I enter heaven."
Jesus: "Sell everything you own and give all the money to the poor and the needy. Then you can enter the kingdom of god"
Jesus re-affirms : "For truly I say upon to you. It is much easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle that it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god"
I think Jesus was very very adamant about helping the poor and about the ability for anyone to enter the "kingdom of god" without selling all their riches and giving the proceeds to the poor.
I think what you are missing is that the discussion about birth control had absolutely nothing to do with you paying for it. Even though Republican politicians and conservative media would love you to continue believing that is what the discussion was about. The discussion was whether corporations and non-profits including (religious institutions) can refuse coverage of contraceptives on an employee insurance plan. This has absolutely nothing to do with you subsidising anyone's birth control at all. Everyone has to pay and no one that pays should be refused and corporations refusing coverage was what kicked off all of this contraception fiasco. And the Republicans keep digging a deeper hole with American women by introducing bills to allow employers to not cover contraception on employee plans on religious grounds and vaginal probe /ultrasound bills. The problem for the Republicans and those who stay glued to nothing but conservative media is that women realise what is going on. They have not been misinformed by the conservative reality distortion field.
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You do realise that he did issue an order to close gitmo and that effort was blocked and demagogued to death by the Republicans don't you?
This BS about the gulf war never ended and we were just continuing it is a bunch of crap that only morons believe. Even Curveball has come clean about how the Bush/Cheney Iraq war was sold to the American public. We had control of the Northern and Southern no fly zones there and they moved military equipment into those zones and that was bombed regurlarly. We had control over two thirds of the countries airspace. All this before the republicans decided to lie to use about aluminium tubes and yellow cake and mobile chemical weapons trucks, and stockpiles and stockpiles "There are stockpiles and we know where they are" All of them blatant lies.
Actually if you care to be factually correct you could mention that Palin was being ridiculed because her answer to the question of her being qualified to be the Vice President and possibly President was...as you say "There are places in Alaska from which one can see Russia."
That was, as you know, a ridiculous answer to simple yet serious question. It's an insinuation that if one is within proximity to a foreign country whether its Mexico, Russia, or Canada then they must be qualified for those offices. You give a ridiculous answer to a serious question then the answer is ridiculous and therefor you are ridiculed and made a mockery of.
As far as the "I can see Russia from my house." quote goes that came from a comedy show. (Saturday Night Live)
I do agree that if you repeat a lie long enough and spread from cable news to talk radio then the faithful will believe it as fact as demonstrated by the fact that half of Republican voters believe that the current President is a Muslim. The Right seems to very skilled in this area.
Yes but the person that introduced SOPA is a staunch conservative....Lamar Smith (R-Tx) Yeah Texas no less. So we have a liberal from Ct and a Conservative from Tx What exactly is your point?
Yeah it's like those people I see at gun shows with Reagan on their T-shirts. Or all those people with a pic of MLK on their shirts and hats. Scary real scary its almost like a cult ain't it? /s
Obama is a bad guy because he is like Bush, not because he is unlike Bush. Lots of people ALSO hated him because he is black, but the truth is that he is a wholly owned tool of the corporate interests that own all our presidents.
I'm not sure he is as wholly owned by corporate interests as the Republicans *all of them* are. If you look at it rationally anyway. I don't see the Republicans trying their best to remove tax payer subsidies from "Big Oil" who are allegedly making record profits on $4 a gallon gas. I don't see the Republicans trying to regulate Wall ST toxic products. I don't see the Republicans forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions and not dropping people when they file a claim. I don't see the corporate insurance lobby running ads in favor of Obama. They do for the Republicans though. I don't see Obama attempting to give corporate CEOs a massive tax break. I see the corporate lobby group the US Chamber of Commerce running ads on TV in an attempt to oust Obama and the Democrats and replace them with Republicans. Even the traditional owners of the Democrats the RIAA/MPAA got a bitter pill when Obama pushed back against their beloved SOPA/PIPA and that is with their bought and paid for puppet tool Joe Biden as Vice President. I could go on and on but it looks to me like the corporate lobby puppet masters are running away from Obama to the Republicans as fast as they can.
Actually...No it wasn't Gene guns have been around since the 80s hardly Novel 20 years ago. Also the patent is not on the method. The Patents are on the genetic combination. Combining genes to produce crop is hardly novel. Patents on a specific combination/arrangement of genes should have never been filed and should have never been granted. Also since the Supreme Court just said you cannot patent nature all these life-form patents should be ruled invalid. I can't see how anyone can support the patenting of a crop that can contaminate natural crops hereby giving the patent owner control of all the contaminated crops. Unless of course they have a financial stake in the matter that is...you know...such as owning stock in Monsanto, work for Monsanto, or trolling for Monsanto(Public Relations) and that includes forum and social media operations.
What Monsanto does is they take naturally occurring genes from an bacterium that allows plants to be resistant to Round-Up and blast them randomly into the plant genome with a gene gun. Hardly novel, Hardly non-obvious. When you purchase Monsanto seed you have to sign a license agreement. That License agreement among other things says that you must pay Monsanto a license fee per hectare of land that you plant the purchased seed, You must allow Monsanto's police force on your land in every storage building on your land for up to 3 years after you quit using their seed. If you sell seed cleaners that allow farmers to replant seeds or or offer a seed cleaning service then Monsanto will sue you out of business claiming you encourage farmers to violate their patents. Their lying and hiding results that they found regarding the effects of their specific product on living systems in their labs. Monsanto's business practices has driven me to purchase more and more organic and NON-GMO products. I also quit using Round-Up on my property. I don't want to give them my money if I can help it.
Shut the NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) up with with some wind turbine power. Offer to subsidize their electricity with wind power energy.
I think what the outrage is that if It was a black man that shot a white guy the black man would be still in jail probably under the jail. I think the fact that he is walking free during all of this outrages people.
I quit purchasing all MPAA and RIAA content after the SOPA/PIPA/Megaupload fiasco. Will not purchase their content ever again and am doing everything in my power to convince people I know not to purchase their content. Then I see this article and it just re-confirms that I am on the right track. Fuckem. I'll give my money to the EFF.
That describes every variety on the planet, GE or not. If I'm growing Blue Bonnet rice and you're growing a modern, non-GE, not-from-Monsanto hybrid, I can still get, say, the sd-1 gene from your rice. What if I don't want that gene?
The difference here which you neglect to mention is that Monsanto actively trespasses onto farmland and collect samples in an effort to sue any contaminated non-Monsanto farmer out of business through the use of patents.
Industry types and those of us who know enough about agriculture to know what the word means.
Read lobbyists and public relation departments of massive multinationals like Monsanto that aim to own all the "intellectual property" behind all food staples throughout the world. Not the actual people on the ground. Farmers that are getting battered with patents from Monsanto. People like Troy Roush the VP of the American Corn Growers Association Troy Roush has said as much and he is a 6th generation soy and corn farmer.
Mandatory labeling of food as non-vegan, non-Kosher, or Haram is also not favorable to industry, nor is labeling if something is produced via embryo rescue, mutagenesis, induced polyploidy, somaclonal variation, or any other plant improvement method.
Industry attempts to equate selective breeding with genetic modification is madness. The scope here is totally different and they know it. Its a cynical attempt to mislead the public into thinking that "oh its all the same" just like "sugar is sugar" right? Its not the same. In the case of Round Up Ready products you have genes that are taken from a bacterium and randomly inserted into the genome of soy and corn in order to make them Round-Up resistant. Selective breeding is totally not the same as that.
But it does. If you think patents are unique to genetic engineering I suggest you pick up a wholesale catalog and see how many plants have royalty fees, their existence brought about by the protection of plant patents.
Patenting life forms should not be allowed. And the supreme court is correct that just rearranging genes is not an "invention" Also randomly inserting a gene from a bacterium into a plant is not novel and non-obvious.
I'm saying that never happened. Yes, there have been lawsuits. The notion they were over simple cross pollination is an internet myth.
So you are saying that the leaked and verified Monsanto internal documents are a myth? They said that about PCBs too remember? And oh its a myth that Dioxins are linked to some cancers.
Ant there's a reason we say the rise of hybrid seed in the last century. You think that even involves genetic engineering? Read up on the history of breeding.
I understand the history of breeding. So tell me how do you cross-breed a specific set of genes that exist in a specific bacterium into a plant naturally?
If people are planting non-Monsanto crops and Monsanto seed pollinates their crop then the Monsanto trans-gene will be in the pollinated crop and therefore the non-Monsanto crop is contaminated with the Monsanto trans-gene. This is a fact. Only industry types are pushing back against that fact because the world "contamination" is not favourable just like labelling foods GMO is not desirable by the industry and their lobbyists.
It has nothing to do with Red Delicious apples however I would like to know which ones of those "Red Delicious apples" are not ripened with ethylene gas you know?
The assumption that the motivation for genetic engineering is because of patents does a dis-service to many who spend their lives in the field. It's like claiming software exists because of patents. Its laughable. Farmers have been developing and saving their seed for replanting the next crop for over 2000 years and for a company like Monsanto to come along and systematically shutdown that practice through the use of patents and litigation happy lawyers and contamination of farms that refuse to license their product and suing them out of existence you are saying that this is good? It's good that Monsanto controls the "intellectual property" of most of the corn and soy planted in North America? Its good that Monsanto found problems with their product in the labs and hid them from the public? What about all the fertility problems with animal tests that were swept under the rug? You cheer for this? I have no problem with genetic engineering I have a problem with the current practices of Monsanto in the marketplace and not only that they have a terrible history. They said PCPs were safe. It was not. Agent Orange was safe it was not, Round-up was biodegradable, it is not. and on and on and they are fighting tooth and nail to stop any effort to label products that have a trans-gene from a frigging bacterium inserted in them. It's just best that we not allow patents on life-forms.
Well these days its Apple and Microsoft that are in the news for privacy violations from iPhone Apps to Microsoft mail censoring links. But of course no outrage from bonch on any of that. Of course not.
The fact that you can take a gene from one life form, insert it into another life form and patent the result, and sue others when your genetic combination contaminates their property is totally ludicrous. However it is the law as Monsanto has purchased it and we all have to live by the law. Unless we the people lobby to get the law changed Monsanto will continue unabated until all food staples become Monsanto's "intellectual Property" and you wont be able to plant anything useful without paying a license fee to plant and purchase seeds that bring a risk of you getting sued for re-using them. Did you know that when you "license" Monsanto seeds you must allow the Monsanto police force on your property for up to 3 years after ceasing using their seeds? That's one gem from their "Round-UP Ready " EULA. The Monsanto EULA is ridiculously comical but its dead serious and their lawyers are brutal. Fun times ahead. Lets hope the "You can't patent nature" rule sticks and this applies to Monsanto and other litigation happy patent abusers that try to own life.