This may be a weakness, true, but since the source is open if a truly useful program sucks in certain ways it will eventually get fixed by whatever hacker loses patience with it first:)
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
Why wouldn't they just recompile the GNU userspace to run natively?
No, this is an incredibly shrewd move to allow UnixWare to run all of those closed source binaries that are built for Linux like... umm... well I can't think any right now, but I'm sure there are loads.
Oh wait, I got it! Quake!
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
The point I would like to make is this: I don't own any guns, but if I want to have one I want to be able to buy one.
You namby-pamby we will not take away my rights to own a weapon, I will not give in. I am a free man, born and raised in a country settled by free men who came in with guns and killed most of the free men that were already here killing each other with sticks.
The point isn't whether guns help defend you against any particular form of attack, or if they're dangerous to have around, or if some people will use them to do horrible things to each other (you forgot to mention in another post that the recent "armed massacres" in Africa were mostly accomplished with clubs and machetes rather than guns)... the point is, are you going to be a free man and take responsibility for trying to make your community a safer place with actual work and communication? Or will you give in to the chickenshits who would trade your freedoms for "safety" under the oh-so-protective wing of legislation?
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
...we, as a human society, can't even raise our own children to be good people...
According to that reasoning we shouldn't be having children the natural way either. If we were to wait for conditions to be perfect we'd never get anything done.
Speaking of misanthropy, I'm the total opposite; the human race will infest this galaxy like roaches someday... I just wish I could be around to see it.:)
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
They said radio would kill books and newspapers, and television after that. You're no dinosaur. Just because paper is an old technology doesn't mean it doesn't kick ass.
Paper should be made from hemp instead of wood-pulp, though. Making paper from wood-pulp is like making hamburger from racehorses... it's wasteful and not as good.
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
A lot of geeks have a network of cheap ass computers in their house because the best way to learn LAN administration is to just do it and learn each part as you go along.
Yes, the simplicity is the key. Once you know your way around *nix, and you realize that you can accomplish anything system management wise with (ls, cp, grep, awk, sort, etc.) you just want all the cruft out of your way so you can comprehend how the entire system works (at least I do). Slackware is the only major Linux distro that accomplishes that for me (the BSDs are also nice this way).
And Slackware doesn't pull any of this "Let's just put in the library binaries and leave out the header files" crap that causes so much grief for newbies trying to compile under RedHat, et al.
Plus, it doesn't require Perl... heck even FreeBSD requires Perl nowadays (I think).
No it's not typical... but there are a lot of ignorant rednecks here in the U.S. Just like any other country. It's not like human nature makes sudden dramatic shifts when crossing artificial borders.
More than likely it's just some kid trying to get a rise out of you. The question is, why did it strike such a nerve with you? Why the hostility directed at U.S. citizens rather than ignorant and hateful human beings in general?
The U.S. governments do not place any blame on minorities, a public official who said any such thing would likely be canned within the week. Racists who do blame minorities for their problems are unfortunately common, but not generally in the majority (depending on where you live).
The U.S. is just like anywhere else, mostly normal people trying to get by, raise some kids and be happy... I think you're as guilty of prejudice and ignorance as the poster to whom you were responding.
The Windows kernel supports things like antialiased fonts and drop-shadows on mouse-pointers... iptables is nothing compared to such advanced technology.
You Unix people read too much, that's old-fashioned. Try clicking on something once in a while and you'll see that clicking on things is the future of computing.
Stallman's use of the word "free" very seldom has anything to do with monetary cost and everything to do with freedom.
Or are you under the impression that when people talk about a "free country" they mean that you can get anything without paying for it?
There is a difference between selling software for steep prices, and trying to lock-in the customer through secret code and underhanded anticompetitive practices like Microsoft's "embrace and extend" policy.
Perhaps he meant GNU instead of Gnome... AFAIK, Window Maker (note the space between the words, added a couple years ago) is the only official Gnu window manager.
If boot up messages intimidate them, wait until they login and are staring at a bash prompt... I think a pretty splash screen is the last thing to worry about when trying to make *nix more newbie-friendly.
But, whatever, it's a little eye-candy... my FreeBSD box has a nice boot splash too:)
I agree with fizban. You may feel awkward and embarassed going to a psychiatrist, there is still a stigma attached to it... "What's wrog with him? He goes to a head shrinker, he must be crazy."
But it's no big deal, and a good psychiatrist will not only make you feel comfortable (he'll probably tell you stories about going to see his psychiatrist) he'll probably even actually help you!
Just swallow your pride and talk some of these issues through with a trained professional and you'll probably gain a new outlook on your life. It helped me with a similar problem, it might help you too.
Bah, you don't have to install that Vision crap... the Lightspeed 128 was a great card in it's day, it served me well in Windows and X and console (nice built in console fonts). I still have it laying around as a spare.
But flourescents have that insufferable strobe effect and lack the pure white color of the led. I don't think you could embed flourescents in epoxy to make them impact-resistant.
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I think Stallman is a great guy, even though I'm not fanatical about software licenses. Someone has to be.
Don't listen to this bunch of pussies, most of them wouldn't know good character if it came up and kicked them in the nuts.
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
This may be a weakness, true, but since the source is open if a truly useful program sucks in certain ways it will eventually get fixed by whatever hacker loses patience with it first :)
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
Gosh tarkas, thanks for providing a much better response than I could ever manage. :)
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
Why wouldn't they just recompile the GNU userspace to run natively?
No, this is an incredibly shrewd move to allow UnixWare to run all of those closed source binaries that are built for Linux like... umm... well I can't think any right now, but I'm sure there are loads.
Oh wait, I got it! Quake!
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
The point I would like to make is this: I don't own any guns, but if I want to have one I want to be able to buy one.
You namby-pamby we will not take away my rights to own a weapon, I will not give in. I am a free man, born and raised in a country settled by free men who came in with guns and killed most of the free men that were already here killing each other with sticks.
The point isn't whether guns help defend you against any particular form of attack, or if they're dangerous to have around, or if some people will use them to do horrible things to each other (you forgot to mention in another post that the recent "armed massacres" in Africa were mostly accomplished with clubs and machetes rather than guns)... the point is, are you going to be a free man and take responsibility for trying to make your community a safer place with actual work and communication? Or will you give in to the chickenshits who would trade your freedoms for "safety" under the oh-so-protective wing of legislation?
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
According to that reasoning we shouldn't be having children the natural way either. If we were to wait for conditions to be perfect we'd never get anything done.
Speaking of misanthropy, I'm the total opposite; the human race will infest this galaxy like roaches someday... I just wish I could be around to see it. :)
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
The world's food problems are a matter of politics and distribution. We already have plenty of food.
Just FYI...
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
They said radio would kill books and newspapers, and television after that. You're no dinosaur. Just because paper is an old technology doesn't mean it doesn't kick ass.
Paper should be made from hemp instead of wood-pulp, though. Making paper from wood-pulp is like making hamburger from racehorses... it's wasteful and not as good.
The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion.
A lot of geeks have a network of cheap ass computers in their house because the best way to learn LAN administration is to just do it and learn each part as you go along.
"Oh twap!"
You didn't support MS.. you basically just proved that Miller is a liar for falsely implying that Linux has a worse security record than NT.
"Oh twap!"
I fail to see what any of this has to do with your original post and my response.
BTW you can sell open source.
"Oh twap!"
Yes, the simplicity is the key. Once you know your way around *nix, and you realize that you can accomplish anything system management wise with (ls, cp, grep, awk, sort, etc.) you just want all the cruft out of your way so you can comprehend how the entire system works (at least I do). Slackware is the only major Linux distro that accomplishes that for me (the BSDs are also nice this way).
And Slackware doesn't pull any of this "Let's just put in the library binaries and leave out the header files" crap that causes so much grief for newbies trying to compile under RedHat, et al.
Plus, it doesn't require Perl... heck even FreeBSD requires Perl nowadays (I think).
"Oh twap!"
No it's not typical... but there are a lot of ignorant rednecks here in the U.S. Just like any other country. It's not like human nature makes sudden dramatic shifts when crossing artificial borders.
More than likely it's just some kid trying to get a rise out of you. The question is, why did it strike such a nerve with you? Why the hostility directed at U.S. citizens rather than ignorant and hateful human beings in general?
The U.S. governments do not place any blame on minorities, a public official who said any such thing would likely be canned within the week. Racists who do blame minorities for their problems are unfortunately common, but not generally in the majority (depending on where you live).
The U.S. is just like anywhere else, mostly normal people trying to get by, raise some kids and be happy... I think you're as guilty of prejudice and ignorance as the poster to whom you were responding.
"Oh twap!"
The Windows kernel supports things like antialiased fonts and drop-shadows on mouse-pointers... iptables is nothing compared to such advanced technology.
You Unix people read too much, that's old-fashioned. Try clicking on something once in a while and you'll see that clicking on things is the future of computing.
That and sound effects.
"Oh twap!"
Stallman's use of the word "free" very seldom has anything to do with monetary cost and everything to do with freedom.
Or are you under the impression that when people talk about a "free country" they mean that you can get anything without paying for it?
There is a difference between selling software for steep prices, and trying to lock-in the customer through secret code and underhanded anticompetitive practices like Microsoft's "embrace and extend" policy.
"Oh twap!"
Perhaps you could isolate the super-secret-squirrel code in another executable that gets called by the main application which you could then GPL...
There's lots of BSDL code out there too, which would work for you just fine.
"Oh twap!"
Perhaps he meant GNU instead of Gnome... AFAIK, Window Maker (note the space between the words, added a couple years ago) is the only official Gnu window manager.
"Oh twap!"
If boot up messages intimidate them, wait until they login and are staring at a bash prompt... I think a pretty splash screen is the last thing to worry about when trying to make *nix more newbie-friendly.
But, whatever, it's a little eye-candy... my FreeBSD box has a nice boot splash too :)
"Oh twap!"
I agree with fizban. You may feel awkward and embarassed going to a psychiatrist, there is still a stigma attached to it... "What's wrog with him? He goes to a head shrinker, he must be crazy."
But it's no big deal, and a good psychiatrist will not only make you feel comfortable (he'll probably tell you stories about going to see his psychiatrist) he'll probably even actually help you!
Just swallow your pride and talk some of these issues through with a trained professional and you'll probably gain a new outlook on your life. It helped me with a similar problem, it might help you too.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
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"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Bah, you don't have to install that Vision crap... the Lightspeed 128 was a great card in it's day, it served me well in Windows and X and console (nice built in console fonts). I still have it laying around as a spare.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
But flourescents have that insufferable strobe effect and lack the pure white color of the led. I don't think you could embed flourescents in epoxy to make them impact-resistant.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
but you're just spouting off inaccurate Linux propaganda here
I don't even use Linux. And I was talking about Windows 9x which, believe it or not, is still a very popular workstation.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
They must keep forgetting how to spell dictionary.com :D
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Well, apparently what corporations look for in a desktop OS is something that is:
So, no... I don't think we can convince a fortune 500 that Linux is a viable OS for use on the desktop.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"