Whatever the case might be about Indian quality, most of the companies who outsourced haven't stopped doing it..yea you're going to mention Dell now but what about the rest. Any links to back up your claim? Anecdotal evidence or not, if Indians really are so bad, eventually, you guys would stop outsourcing to us. Surely there are other countries just waiting to do it cheaper than India. And as somebody who is involved directly with all this outsourcing, I have to say that our clients expect us to work miracles with the already shitty code they present to us. We have an American company which sells its products all based on Microsoft Technologies. Now you tell me what you want us Indians to do with that. We're getting paid by the hour in $, why the fuck should we say no to that. Simple fact is that the money would start drying up if Indians were so awful. But I'm still getting my paycheck. That's the only evidence I need.
Whoa there, you keep puttin' words in my mouth. I'm not excusing illiteracy, even for a second. I totally agree with you about the basics. Basics, basics and more basics is the bottomline. But these projects come up can work in parallel...I never meant to say the computer is a subsitute for regular stuff...And it's not like all of India is hellbent on computerising everything. But before you can touch th lives of the poor, you have to work with the middle class. When these people get more money, they in turn will help the poor and illiterate work their way up. The computer is definitely a tool which helps empower middle-class people, and thus the emphasis on the computer. But is not, I repeat, not a substitute for regular reading, writing and 'rithmetic!
If you can shut this situation down so fast, go the fuck right ahead. You fucking clothed us? I see, we're all programming in the nude here waiting for our German benefactors to send us the next paycheck. "Hey Bob, nice boxers. Did ya get a raise?" Fuck you Adolf. First you went broke because of the Jews, so killed them. Then your country got whooped by the Americans, and now you're getting whooped by us. If you haven't figured it out yet, it's because you people are too fucking stupid for your own good. Now go home, and take down that Swastika. The war's over, and Germans aren't the master race. Now come here and wipe my brown ass, bitch.
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Nobody claimed that computer is the end all solution. But the grandparent said that illiterate people can't handle computers, and I'm simply saying that's not true. We'd like to believe our job requires a bachelor's degree minimum, but there are people who can pick up computers without that, and social experiments, conducted within India itself have shown that kids, whether they can read or not, tend to pick up computers very easily.
On my last trip there, I saw a *priest* spit inside a *temple*. I notified the "police"...they laughed.
How is this an example of corruption? Did somebody *bribe* the *priest* to spit, or was the *policeman* *bribed* to *laugh*? Or are you referring to corruption of the Soul, in which case my bad.
Gee, I thought we were on Slashdot, where we discuss news relevant for geeks. Whereas the Digital Village is relevant to the Slashdot audience, please kindly explain why Slashdotters would want to know about the regular bunch of 3-rd world problems. Of course, on the other hand you could be somebody who's just trying to be malicious...but as has already been said, never attribute to malice that which can be explained as stupidity...
You see buddy, you just discredited yourself. Have you Been to India? So just because you got fed shit by a bunch of people who left India to make more money, it must be the truth. Some of us happen to live here, like yours truly. And the corruption here USED to be quite bad, but it gets better. Everyday. So get over it.
Maybe you should try contracting your business out to a respected company like Infosys, Wipro, TCS, HCL, Satyam, instead of going with Ashok's Acme Software House. But then you people are prone to big generalisations and malice....
Gee maybe the computer screen could help teach you to read.
Picture of apple appears on screen
Farmer presses big red button
Computer audio says name of apple in hindi, then also shows the word for it underneath. Of course it would have to be more basic than that, but I think you get the idea. Sheesh.
I see... so the 7/8 hours of waiting you had to do before digitization was better. Or the fact that you had to spend days hoping that the broken-down beat up public sector bank would locate your paper-based file. How do people like you manage to get access to a computer?
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What a load of crap. Who is going to build those railways and roads? Who is going travel by them? Apparently slave labour, judging by your post. Person A is living in a village, which has no roads connecting it to a big city, or a railway line. If person A gets struck by a debilitating disease, how is s/he going to get access to supplies, food, healthcare? By magic? Oh sorry, this all to exploit labour. This parent post should be marked flamebait too.
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The parent post should be marked flamebait.
New technologies will not suit the currupt and they are the one's who usually have the power to decide what stays and what doesn't.
Although I do agree with the poster's statement, s/he also seems to say that India is at this level. And that's just plain wrong. There lots of parts of India, without access to basic resources, and will continue to be that way for the next 15-20 years if the staus quo prevails. However, that does not prevent the march of technology. As observed in many thrid-world countries, the Mobile Phone base in India is set to overtake Landlines some time this year - why? Because as the parent says, getting landline WAS (and is now only partially) involved dealign with corrupt officials. Whereas getting a mobile phone requires at the most 17 hours of your time in total. Why would these corrupt people want to encourage the use of a technology which has broken their monopoly on communication? Could it be because not all of India is full of these evil corrupt people, and that OVERALL, the Rule of Law is respected in that country, despite the occasional aberrations?Now a person maybe homeless or living in a slum, but the mobile is in the reach of these people. If I could post pictures, I'd prove it to you, but of course somebody would just say that I paid the homeless person to smile into the camera. I've noticed that for some particular reason there is a malicious campaign to discredit India, at every opportunity. Note how most posts about India go:
--Insert positive statement about India here -- followed by "But India is full of poor peeople, and everybody is hungry and starving and won't be able to afford anything anyway"
Finally, only a fool would claim to know what the People's verdict was the last Indian General Election. Even the current ruling political party doesn't claim it has the People's Mandate. the only thing we know for a fact is that BJP lost. But nobody won. And it's no rejection of economic reform, because everybody knows that Congress was the first party to start economic reform. Finally, technological progress in India is never rejected. It is simply rejected in its Western form, then over a large or small time period adapted to Indian standards, culture and society. When satelite Television started of India, it was considered a threat to Indian culture, because all ti showed were American programs, with American newscasters and americans sports. Then within a year or two of its launch, it was showing Indian music on MTV, Cricket on the Sports channels, and purely Indian content on the entertainment channels (alongside the American and British stuff).
Dunno why I bothered to respond to the flamebait, but I did....
But does it run Linux? And could you imagine a beowulf cluster of these babies in Soviet Russia, you Insensitive CLOD!
Sorry, just don't have anything positive to add, so resorting to memes....
Dude, y don't u just go to a movie theatre in which everybody else is ALSO jacking off. Then nobody's watching you....and even if they are, it might turn u on some more. Kindly requesting mods to leave this reply alone....
"Frankly, I don't know what's coming next, but we're all gonna need smaller fingers, for sure!" - Jeff Bezos, on being asked to predict future technological trends - June 2000
Not if you read TFA, you're right, but I read elsewhere that it would definitely be 3G compatible (since Europe's heading in that expensive direction..) Unfortunately I've been googling for the article which stated that, but can't find it:-( So I guess I should "retract" my statement....
Whether you're moving to 3G or Wi-Fi/WiMax, you're ready to roll. I have to hand it to these guys, at least they're thinking ahead. Now it doesn't matter which technology wins out as The Ultimate Wireless Solution. If only other mobile phone companies thought this way...
On the other hand, at this point, I don't think 3G OR 802.11 have managed to break out on a global scale a la GSM yet... so your pretty toy will remain just that for another 3/4 years....
Maybe this is why the FBI warned people to be on the lookout for people with atlases and almanacs
Ok I'm not an American, and I'm not in America right now either, but if the FBI actually did issue that warning, somebody in the govt. needs to get their head examined....aw fuck it. Just vote out The Retard (I'll let u guys decide who that is).
Hmmm, I wonder why they're going have to rebuild their country in the first place....could it be....oh never mind. What's the point. I don't even get a DA to file charges, whatever the fuck that means. Must be some inside joke they share at The Southern Baptist Church.
Whoa there buddy! This is a heavy, conservative right-wing magazine. Not a shred of liberalism about it. Once they've started criticizing Bush and the assholes giving America a bad name, you know there's trouble...
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Whatever the case might be about Indian quality, most of the companies who outsourced haven't stopped doing it..yea you're going to mention Dell now but what about the rest. Any links to back up your claim? Anecdotal evidence or not, if Indians really are so bad, eventually, you guys would stop outsourcing to us. Surely there are other countries just waiting to do it cheaper than India. And as somebody who is involved directly with all this outsourcing, I have to say that our clients expect us to work miracles with the already shitty code they present to us. We have an American company which sells its products all based on Microsoft Technologies. Now you tell me what you want us Indians to do with that. We're getting paid by the hour in $, why the fuck should we say no to that. Simple fact is that the money would start drying up if Indians were so awful. But I'm still getting my paycheck. That's the only evidence I need.
Whoa there, you keep puttin' words in my mouth. I'm not excusing illiteracy, even for a second. I totally agree with you about the basics. Basics, basics and more basics is the bottomline. But these projects come up can work in parallel...I never meant to say the computer is a subsitute for regular stuff...And it's not like all of India is hellbent on computerising everything. But before you can touch th lives of the poor, you have to work with the middle class. When these people get more money, they in turn will help the poor and illiterate work their way up. The computer is definitely a tool which helps empower middle-class people, and thus the emphasis on the computer. But is not, I repeat, not a substitute for regular reading, writing and 'rithmetic!
If you can shut this situation down so fast, go the fuck right ahead. You fucking clothed us? I see, we're all programming in the nude here waiting for our German benefactors to send us the next paycheck. "Hey Bob, nice boxers. Did ya get a raise?" Fuck you Adolf. First you went broke because of the Jews, so killed them. Then your country got whooped by the Americans, and now you're getting whooped by us. If you haven't figured it out yet, it's because you people are too fucking stupid for your own good. Now go home, and take down that Swastika. The war's over, and Germans aren't the master race. Now come here and wipe my brown ass, bitch.
Nobody claimed that computer is the end all solution. But the grandparent said that illiterate people can't handle computers, and I'm simply saying that's not true. We'd like to believe our job requires a bachelor's degree minimum, but there are people who can pick up computers without that, and social experiments, conducted within India itself have shown that kids, whether they can read or not, tend to pick up computers very easily.
On my last trip there, I saw a *priest* spit inside a *temple*. I notified the "police"...they laughed.
How is this an example of corruption? Did somebody *bribe* the *priest* to spit, or was the *policeman* *bribed* to *laugh*? Or are you referring to corruption of the Soul, in which case my bad.
No Problem. Here.
We were 20 germans and 3 indish people.
Gee, I thought we were on Slashdot, where we discuss news relevant for geeks. Whereas the Digital Village is relevant to the Slashdot audience, please kindly explain why Slashdotters would want to know about the regular bunch of 3-rd world problems. Of course, on the other hand you could be somebody who's just trying to be malicious...but as has already been said, never attribute to malice that which can be explained as stupidity...
You see buddy, you just discredited yourself. Have you Been to India? So just because you got fed shit by a bunch of people who left India to make more money, it must be the truth. Some of us happen to live here, like yours truly. And the corruption here USED to be quite bad, but it gets better. Everyday. So get over it.
Maybe you should try contracting your business out to a respected company like Infosys, Wipro, TCS, HCL, Satyam, instead of going with Ashok's Acme Software House. But then you people are prone to big generalisations and malice....
Gee maybe the computer screen could help teach you to read.
Picture of apple appears on screen
Farmer presses big red button
Computer audio says name of apple in hindi, then also shows the word for it underneath. Of course it would have to be more basic than that, but I think you get the idea. Sheesh.
I see... so the 7/8 hours of waiting you had to do before digitization was better. Or the fact that you had to spend days hoping that the broken-down beat up public sector bank would locate your paper-based file. How do people like you manage to get access to a computer?
What a load of crap. Who is going to build those railways and roads? Who is going travel by them? Apparently slave labour, judging by your post. Person A is living in a village, which has no roads connecting it to a big city, or a railway line. If person A gets struck by a debilitating disease, how is s/he going to get access to supplies, food, healthcare? By magic? Oh sorry, this all to exploit labour. This parent post should be marked flamebait too.
The parent post should be marked flamebait.
New technologies will not suit the currupt and they are the one's who usually have the power to decide what stays and what doesn't.
Although I do agree with the poster's statement, s/he also seems to say that India is at this level. And that's just plain wrong. There lots of parts of India, without access to basic resources, and will continue to be that way for the next 15-20 years if the staus quo prevails. However, that does not prevent the march of technology. As observed in many thrid-world countries, the Mobile Phone base in India is set to overtake Landlines some time this year - why? Because as the parent says, getting landline WAS (and is now only partially) involved dealign with corrupt officials. Whereas getting a mobile phone requires at the most 17 hours of your time in total. Why would these corrupt people want to encourage the use of a technology which has broken their monopoly on communication? Could it be because not all of India is full of these evil corrupt people, and that OVERALL, the Rule of Law is respected in that country, despite the occasional aberrations?Now a person maybe homeless or living in a slum, but the mobile is in the reach of these people. If I could post pictures, I'd prove it to you, but of course somebody would just say that I paid the homeless person to smile into the camera. I've noticed that for some particular reason there is a malicious campaign to discredit India, at every opportunity. Note how most posts about India go:
--Insert positive statement about India here -- followed by "But India is full of poor peeople, and everybody is hungry and starving and won't be able to afford anything anyway"
Finally, only a fool would claim to know what the People's verdict was the last Indian General Election. Even the current ruling political party doesn't claim it has the People's Mandate. the only thing we know for a fact is that BJP lost. But nobody won. And it's no rejection of economic reform, because everybody knows that Congress was the first party to start economic reform. Finally, technological progress in India is never rejected. It is simply rejected in its Western form, then over a large or small time period adapted to Indian standards, culture and society. When satelite Television started of India, it was considered a threat to Indian culture, because all ti showed were American programs, with American newscasters and americans sports. Then within a year or two of its launch, it was showing Indian music on MTV, Cricket on the Sports channels, and purely Indian content on the entertainment channels (alongside the American and British stuff).
Dunno why I bothered to respond to the flamebait, but I did....
But does it run Linux? And could you imagine a beowulf cluster of these babies in Soviet Russia, you Insensitive CLOD! Sorry, just don't have anything positive to add, so resorting to memes....
Dude, y don't u just go to a movie theatre in which everybody else is ALSO jacking off. Then nobody's watching you....and even if they are, it might turn u on some more. Kindly requesting mods to leave this reply alone....
Out of curiosity..does Gigli fall under the "Art" or "Great Picture" category? *ducks*
TRANSLATION:
How did the projectionist see the bootlegger, considering that everbody is facing the movie screen?
Easy, he looked for the guy who seemed to be staring at his chest....or something...
"Frankly, I don't know what's coming next, but we're all gonna need smaller fingers, for sure!" - Jeff Bezos, on being asked to predict future technological trends - June 2000
Not if you read TFA, you're right, but I read elsewhere that it would definitely be 3G compatible (since Europe's heading in that expensive direction..) Unfortunately I've been googling for the article which stated that, but can't find it :-( So I guess I should "retract" my statement....
Whether you're moving to 3G or Wi-Fi/WiMax, you're ready to roll. I have to hand it to these guys, at least they're thinking ahead. Now it doesn't matter which technology wins out as The Ultimate Wireless Solution. If only other mobile phone companies thought this way...
On the other hand, at this point, I don't think 3G OR 802.11 have managed to break out on a global scale a la GSM yet... so your pretty toy will remain just that for another 3/4 years....
Maybe this is why the FBI warned people to be on the lookout for people with atlases and almanacs
Ok I'm not an American, and I'm not in America right now either, but if the FBI actually did issue that warning, somebody in the govt. needs to get their head examined....aw fuck it. Just vote out The Retard (I'll let u guys decide who that is).
If that's true it's news to me. My googling didn't find any of this. Of course, that doesn't mean that it ain't true....
You're mistaken on one count. I'm no frikkin' liberal. I'm right-of-centre. But that doesn't mean that Bush isn't a fucking idiot.
Hmmm, I wonder why they're going have to rebuild their country in the first place....could it be....oh never mind. What's the point. I don't even get a DA to file charges, whatever the fuck that means. Must be some inside joke they share at The Southern Baptist Church.
Whoa there buddy! This is a heavy, conservative right-wing magazine. Not a shred of liberalism about it. Once they've started criticizing Bush and the assholes giving America a bad name, you know there's trouble...
Americans: VOTE BUSH OUT!