Thanks David. This is an awfully useful post...and not reflect much in Kurzweil's book. I wonder if he didn't get a bit carried away because his predictions are so far into the future that he couldn'tbe called into account for them.
I know it came from Eric Raymond,but didn't some person at MS send it out? It seems that the personal insults are the problem for people, not the anonymity. On the Well, people who get nasty just get temorarily removed from posting privileges, till they settle down. But who would want to police that?
Hey buster, who you calling uncool? I did get flamed in an e-mail this morning, but somebody who told me my e-mail organizing skills are poor. This is true. But if I get any less cool, I'd boil over.
Thanks for the great e-mail, and all the offers of help -- tech support, insurance advice, even some free computers and proofreading. I'm answering all the e-mail but wanted to post some general answers to some of the questions: l. To the sweet souls offering to proof my column, I can't accept that for free. I'll try and work on marking some more time for proofing, but it's hard..I'm doing columns, books and magazine articles, and am about to set off on a book tour (not the geek book, another). A couple sent LOL messages wanting to make sure this wasn't a put-on by me or Rob.Alas, it isn't. I've got a picture of the carnage in case I need it for insurance purposes, but as some people have suggested in e-mail, it's only made me more attached to the computer, which is now home, in a new case. I'm struggling to get it to go online. Soon as I can, I'll post from it. That will be a major kick. This hasn't soured me on Linus at all, quite the opposite. I even went into terminals on my box and killed a window on the desktop that wouldn't go away. Small potatoes for most of you, a huge techno-leap for me. I am more determined than ever to do this, and actually learn how computing works. I am beginning to finally get what hacking really means. As to those of you worried that I'm bothered or put off by flamers or name-calling, I promise you, no chance. Flamers are like airport noise...part of life. On/., I sort of relate to the impeachment trial. I'm prepared to stipulate that I'm a moron if it will encourage the angry and obsessive to find something more important to do. But it wouldn't. Anyway, I'm very close. I am also very psyched.
Sennett isn't claiming we're in the Dark Ages. He's just raising questions about the nature of work. Fortunately,most of us have some.
Some related links from the folks at fray.com
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>Hi Jon -- > >It's me, Derek from fray. Hi! > >I just wanted to let me know how much I liked your piece in slashdot about >work. It's nice to still see you out there in the trenches.:-) > >fwiw, here are a few web resources on the subject: > >http://fray.com/work/ >collected writings about work fron the fray > >http://kvetch.com/work/ >user posted complaints about work > >http://www.unamerican.com/core/fuckwork/ >srini is giving away 5 million "fuck work" stickers > >http://www.fucker.com/fuckers/we_work_for/ >fucker.com presents boss horror stories > >Keep in making trouble! > >-- Derek > >
The number of posts here and my e-mail already undermines the idea that this is the wrong forum. Work affects the young as well as the old, as do all of the issues mentioned above. Aging is only one of the things Sennett writes about..he writes about the nature of work as well. I also think it's patronizing to people on/. to suggest they only care about things that affect them directly. Not to mention the obvious -- they will all get older. But I have to tell you, from the e-mail I'm getting, plenty of people on/. have been through this personally, and all ages.
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Thanks David. This is an awfully useful post...and not reflect much in Kurzweil's book. I wonder if he didn't get a bit carried away because his predictions are so far into the future that he couldn'tbe called into account for them.
I know it came from Eric Raymond,but didn't some person at MS send it out? It seems that the personal insults are the problem for people, not the anonymity. On the Well, people who get nasty just get temorarily removed from posting privileges, till they settle down. But who would want to police that?
Hey buster, who you calling uncool? I did get flamed in an e-mail this morning, but somebody who told me my e-mail organizing skills are poor. This is true. But if I get any less cool, I'd boil over.
Thanks for the great e-mail, and all the offers of help -- tech support, insurance advice, even some free computers and proofreading. I'm answering all the e-mail but wanted to post some general answers to some of the questions: /., I sort of relate to the impeachment trial. I'm prepared to stipulate that I'm a moron if it will encourage the angry and obsessive to find something more important to do. But it wouldn't.
l. To the sweet souls offering to proof my column, I can't accept that for free. I'll try and work on marking some more time for proofing, but it's hard..I'm doing columns, books and magazine articles, and am about to set off on a book tour (not the geek book, another).
A couple sent LOL messages wanting to make sure this wasn't a put-on by me or Rob.Alas, it isn't. I've got a picture of the carnage in case I need it for insurance purposes, but as some people have suggested in e-mail, it's only made me more attached to the computer, which is now home, in a new case. I'm struggling to get it to go online. Soon as I can, I'll post from it. That will be a major kick.
This hasn't soured me on Linus at all, quite the opposite. I even went into terminals on my box and killed a window on the desktop that wouldn't go away.
Small potatoes for most of you, a huge techno-leap for me. I am more determined than ever to do this, and actually learn how computing works. I am beginning to finally get what hacking really means.
As to those of you worried that I'm bothered or put off by flamers or name-calling, I promise you, no chance.
Flamers are like airport noise...part of life. On
Anyway, I'm very close. I am also very psyched.
Sennett isn't claiming we're in the Dark Ages. He's just raising questions about the nature of work. Fortunately,most of us have some.
>Hi Jon -- :-)
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>It's me, Derek from fray. Hi!
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>I just wanted to let me know how much I liked your piece in slashdot about
>work. It's nice to still see you out there in the trenches.
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>fwiw, here are a few web resources on the subject:
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>http://fray.com/work/
>collected writings about work fron the fray
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>http://kvetch.com/work/
>user posted complaints about work
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>http://www.unamerican.com/core/fuckwork/
>srini is giving away 5 million "fuck work" stickers
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>http://www.fucker.com/fuckers/we_work_for/
>fucker.com presents boss horror stories
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>Keep in making trouble!
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>-- Derek
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The number of posts here and my e-mail already undermines the idea that this is the wrong forum. Work affects the young as well as the old, as do all of the issues mentioned above. Aging is only one of the things Sennett writes about..he writes about the nature of work as well.
I also think it's patronizing to people on
I think anachronistic, chic and cliched drivel is better than sophomoric drivel. It's something to strive for.
Lots of people are e-mailing me about Babylon 5 -- they like it a lot.