I like it... I like it a lot...!
Turn the tables and destroy any financial gains made by SPAM, you eliminate SPAM.
Problem is, how are you going to handle all the different website designs, credit card info requirements, etc,etc..?
I am going to take the time to address each of those comments, pointless and flamebait as most of them are:
"a patent I filed in Australia" A patent? On this?! Will you patent the wheel & fire next? JL> I patented this before I discovered that bondedsender.com or any other similar concept existed. I believe Microsoft has patented the 'Caller-ID' concept, also. I know a lot of people don't like software patents, but until a better way of rewarding inventors is created, what else is there? This is capitalism, not communism, you know.
___ "the answer to all our email problems" It is? This idea is so wrong in SO many ways! Is this post a troll? JL> So list them. If you take the time to read the whole concept details, you will see its fair for everybody EXCEPT the spammers and email virus creators.
___ "Currently unsolicited email from less than 0.2%" Where did you get this #? Other than out of your arse? JL> Do the maths. The bulk of the world's spam is apparently sent from less than 5000 people. There are over 36 million domain names registered.
___ "when shut down by Internet authorities" Who are these "Internet authorities?" Do they have flashy-badges? JL> The sender's ISP's, real-time block lists, government and law enforcement.. I believe there are already lawsuits commenced under the CAN-SPAM act in the USA.
___ " register and regulate... enforceability, financial accountability and liability" You work for the Gestapo don't you?! JL> Next you'll tell me you don't believe the DNS is a good thing. I'm not proposing anything significantly different.
___ "need a license to own a gun... so why not an email server" So sending email is like shooting people? Some aren't even sure a license to own a gun is a good idea. JL> Do you have ANY idea what the world currently spends to deal with viruses and spam? Do you register your car? Do you have a drivers' license? Do you have a problem with laws and regulation? What's wrong with a gun license? Wouldn't you like to know that someone who owns a gun is adult and responsible and not some psychopath or homocidal maniac?
___ "MUST construct a global registry" "MUST"? So no other idea before or after yours will have merit? JL> Everything has merit. However, sender accountability is the *only* long-term solution. Besides, without a register of mail servers, how else can you permanently get rid of email viruses?
___ "email... sent from an unregistered email server, it is simply rejected " Wow! You really want to kill email to save it huh? JL> SMTP was originally designed for academics and the military. Spam and email viruses came much later. If SMTP has been created with any prior knowledge of the commercialisation of the Internet, it would have been made more secure to start with. Besides, I have also detailed a method that allows the email to be received, yet processed in such a way that it presents no harm to the recipient other than potentially wasting the user's time deleting spam.
___ "The mail server owner(s) should also enter into a contract with its users" Wow, "contracts with users", why didn't anyone else think of that. Vile spammers would NEVER break a contract. This MUST be a troll post right? JL> You already agreed to some sort of 'Terms and Conditions' when you joined up with your ISP. This is merely a modification of those terms. In some ISP's cases, those terms are already included.
___ "binding them to abide by the mail server authority's rules" I await your plan to "bind" spammers to any authority's rules! JL> If they are known and accountable, why not? Isn't that the basis of all law?
___ "required the new owner to supply a security bond of (suggested) US$2500+" So, no email can flow out of a server without a "(suggested) US$2500+" bond? Hey, why not take 10 years per-capita income from some poor asian
Originally posted 28/1/04. Copyright Joshua Leisk. This article may be reproduced, provided it is reproduced in its entirety, without alteration.
I am posting this story, as the.mail TLD and related concept is remarkably similar to a patent I filed in Australia and it could be the answer to all our email problems, if a few changes are made:
SPAM. Currently unsolicited email from less than 0.2% of the online community wastes time and impacts the productivity of the other 99.8%, as well as impeding network bandwidth and creating traffic costs. SPAM represents over 65% of all email sent.
EMAIL VIRUSES. Mass-mailing viruses cause significant financial damage to organisations and individuals alike. At least 60% of all the services my IT outsourcing company currently performs is virus-related.
I think we have all come to the realization that the problem in eliminating SPAM and email viruses, is that even though it is impossible to verify the legitimacy of all email being exchanged, we still accept mail from any software capable of transmitting mail, as though it were a trusted source of information! Many mail servers are flawed by inept security and administrators, many countries have no anti-SPAM laws, every successful mass-mailing virus has its own SMTP engine and of course we suffer the deliberately configured SPAM email servers employed by dodgy SPAM 'barons' every day to solicit millions of people to buy dodgy 'Viagra', dodgy University degrees and enough porn to humble a veteran pornographic movie star - all for the sake of making a dishonest dollar at every body else's expense.
The simple fact is, you cannot prevent the shady 0.2% of the online community from targeting the remaining 99.8% of us without a global mail exchanging system that has zero-tolerance for unsolicited mail and an effective way of globally policing the system. Message filtering and 'real-time block lists' will never provide an effective solution, because it is a never-ending race to identify, report and 'block' SPAM and 'rogue' mail servers, which then merely rise like a 'phoenix from the ashes' hours later, under a new domain name, or a new IP address, when shut down by Internet authorities. Currently SPAM recipients are always one step behind the SPAM senders and feeling helpless to their plight. Why should we allow ourselves to be victims of our flawed technology, allowing rogue mail servers to financially impair rest of the Internet community?
When SPAM and viruses already makes up more than 50% of all email sent, it becomes more logical and far simpler to protect the legitimate email, rather than trying to filter the illegitimate email!
The only way to permanently eliminate SPAM and email viruses is to establish a mail server authority to register and regulate email servers, in much the same way as the Domain Name System, thus allowing enforceability, financial accountability and liability to those who SPAM, or allow SPAM to propagate. You need a license to own a gun or anything else capable of significantly impacting others, so why not an email server? Currently, Australians pay an average $45 per year to register a '.com.au' domain name, as well as the additional hosting fees to facilitate the DNS system and traffic caused by it, thus creating orderly domain name management. We wouldn't tolerate chaos and anarchy in the Domain Name System, so why should the email system be any different?
I propose that we MUST construct a global registry of certified closed-relay, 'spoof'-proof email servers, married to the verified details of the server's owner, who are possibly placed under a financial security bond, depending on the age of the domain name and previous history, to operate it SPAM-free and then prevent all 'registered' email servers from receiving email from any 'unregistered' email server (or be cleaned and filed separately - see "'Softer' Variation of the Concept"), or accepting email client submi
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I like it... I like it a lot...! Turn the tables and destroy any financial gains made by SPAM, you eliminate SPAM. Problem is, how are you going to handle all the different website designs, credit card info requirements, etc,etc..?
I am going to take the time to address each of those comments, pointless and flamebait as most of them are:
... enforceability, financial accountability and liability"
... so why not an email server"
... sent from an unregistered email server, it is simply rejected "
"a patent I filed in Australia"
A patent? On this?! Will you patent the wheel & fire next?
JL> I patented this before I discovered that bondedsender.com or any other similar concept existed. I believe Microsoft has patented the 'Caller-ID' concept, also. I know a lot of people don't like software patents, but until a better way of rewarding inventors is created, what else is there? This is capitalism, not communism, you know.
___
"the answer to all our email problems"
It is? This idea is so wrong in SO many ways! Is this post a troll?
JL> So list them. If you take the time to read the whole concept details, you will see its fair for everybody EXCEPT the spammers and email virus creators.
___
"Currently unsolicited email from less than 0.2%"
Where did you get this #? Other than out of your arse?
JL> Do the maths. The bulk of the world's spam is apparently sent from less than 5000 people. There are over 36 million domain names registered.
___
"when shut down by Internet authorities"
Who are these "Internet authorities?" Do they have flashy-badges?
JL> The sender's ISP's, real-time block lists, government and law enforcement.. I believe there are already lawsuits commenced under the CAN-SPAM act in the USA.
___
" register and regulate
You work for the Gestapo don't you?!
JL> Next you'll tell me you don't believe the DNS is a good thing. I'm not proposing anything significantly different.
___
"need a license to own a gun
So sending email is like shooting people? Some aren't even sure a license to own a gun is a good idea.
JL> Do you have ANY idea what the world currently spends to deal with viruses and spam? Do you register your car? Do you have a drivers' license? Do you have a problem with laws and regulation? What's wrong with a gun license? Wouldn't you like to know that someone who owns a gun is adult and responsible and not some psychopath or homocidal maniac?
___
"MUST construct a global registry"
"MUST"? So no other idea before or after yours will have merit?
JL> Everything has merit. However, sender accountability is the *only* long-term solution. Besides, without a register of mail servers, how else can you permanently get rid of email viruses?
___
"email
Wow! You really want to kill email to save it huh?
JL> SMTP was originally designed for academics and the military. Spam and email viruses came much later. If SMTP has been created with any prior knowledge of the commercialisation of the Internet, it would have been made more secure to start with. Besides, I have also detailed a method that allows the email to be received, yet processed in such a way that it presents no harm to the recipient other than potentially wasting the user's time deleting spam.
___
"The mail server owner(s) should also enter into a contract with its users"
Wow, "contracts with users", why didn't anyone else think of that. Vile spammers would NEVER break a contract. This MUST be a troll post right?
JL> You already agreed to some sort of 'Terms and Conditions' when you joined up with your ISP. This is merely a modification of those terms. In some ISP's cases, those terms are already included.
___
"binding them to abide by the mail server authority's rules"
I await your plan to "bind" spammers to any authority's rules!
JL> If they are known and accountable, why not? Isn't that the basis of all law?
___
"required the new owner to supply a security bond of (suggested) US$2500+"
So, no email can flow out of a server without a "(suggested) US$2500+" bond? Hey, why not take 10 years per-capita income from some poor asian
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.mail TLD and related concept is remarkably similar to a patent I filed in Australia and it could be the answer to all our email problems, if a few changes are made:
http://www.intechcomm.net.au
Originally posted 28/1/04.
Copyright Joshua Leisk. This article may be reproduced, provided it is reproduced in its entirety, without alteration.
I am posting this story, as the
SPAM. Currently unsolicited email from less than 0.2% of the online community wastes time and impacts the productivity of the other 99.8%, as well as impeding network bandwidth and creating traffic costs. SPAM represents over 65% of all email sent.
EMAIL VIRUSES. Mass-mailing viruses cause significant financial damage to organisations and individuals alike. At least 60% of all the services my IT outsourcing company currently performs is virus-related.
I think we have all come to the realization that the problem in eliminating SPAM and email viruses, is that even though it is impossible to verify the legitimacy of all email being exchanged, we still accept mail from any software capable of transmitting mail, as though it were a trusted source of information! Many mail servers are flawed by inept security and administrators, many countries have no anti-SPAM laws, every successful mass-mailing virus has its own SMTP engine and of course we suffer the deliberately configured SPAM email servers employed by dodgy SPAM 'barons' every day to solicit millions of people to buy dodgy 'Viagra', dodgy University degrees and enough porn to humble a veteran pornographic movie star - all for the sake of making a dishonest dollar at every body else's expense.
The simple fact is, you cannot prevent the shady 0.2% of the online community from targeting the remaining 99.8% of us without a global mail exchanging system that has zero-tolerance for unsolicited mail and an effective way of globally policing the system. Message filtering and 'real-time block lists' will never provide an effective solution, because it is a never-ending race to identify, report and 'block' SPAM and 'rogue' mail servers, which then merely rise like a 'phoenix from the ashes' hours later, under a new domain name, or a new IP address, when shut down by Internet authorities. Currently SPAM recipients are always one step behind the SPAM senders and feeling helpless to their plight. Why should we allow ourselves to be victims of our flawed technology, allowing rogue mail servers to financially impair rest of the Internet community?
When SPAM and viruses already makes up more than 50% of all email sent, it becomes more logical and far simpler to protect the legitimate email, rather than trying to filter the illegitimate email!
The only way to permanently eliminate SPAM and email viruses is to establish a mail server authority to register and regulate email servers, in much the same way as the Domain Name System, thus allowing enforceability, financial accountability and liability to those who SPAM, or allow SPAM to propagate. You need a license to own a gun or anything else capable of significantly impacting others, so why not an email server? Currently, Australians pay an average $45 per year to register a '.com.au' domain name, as well as the additional hosting fees to facilitate the DNS system and traffic caused by it, thus creating orderly domain name management. We wouldn't tolerate chaos and anarchy in the Domain Name System, so why should the email system be any different?
I propose that we MUST construct a global registry of certified closed-relay, 'spoof'-proof email servers, married to the verified details of the server's owner, who are possibly placed under a financial security bond, depending on the age of the domain name and previous history, to operate it SPAM-free and then prevent all 'registered' email servers from receiving email from any 'unregistered' email server (or be cleaned and filed separately - see "'Softer' Variation of the Concept"), or accepting email client submi