nice little straw man start... but ok... have fun. I'm not saying it's perfect, but direct popular vote would cause alot more problems than electoral college.
that's why congress is elected by popular vote. The ones who make laws should be directly reportable to the people. The one who execute the laws (the president) should be responsible to the judicial and legislative... The judicial is responsible to the executive and the legislative, but also not the people(usually). It's US Government 101... come on now.
How does a Federal Judge who was sitting on the bench before Bush was elected make it the Republican's fault? Oh and BTW, the popular vote means "precisely.... dick". The electoral college is who decides who the president is. Only recently has that college been required to vote as according to the popular vote. And if you want to get nitty gritty, at least one of those other presidents actually won because the electoral college voted directly AGAINST the popular vote. Why should the PResident be elected by popular vote? The will of the people is a fickle thing.
Untill GTalk gets it's ass in gear and makes it where you can connect to all of them, then I'm ditching Trillian and running to GTalk, full steam ahead.
Wow, nice assumptions on all of you guys parts. For reference, I apologize that I forgot to mention the Women who have corageously and valliantly served their country... and, unfortunately DIED for thier country. I never asked anyone to go and join the military, it's strictly a voluntary force. And I applaud those who join. Also, I may or may not approve of Liberating Iraq. However, the fact remains that we are in there, what will be accomplished by withdrawing? Save money? Ok, yea it will do that. Allow a country to fall into anarchy? Sure, lets do that. Lets make it look like we can't clean up our messes. Lets also make it seem that we have no will to stand up to armed thugs. Hand a bullhorn to these lunatics so that they can say "look, we drove them out of Iraq! Let's go invade and make them surrender! It's easy, we only have to fight them for a year!" Just because someone says that we shouldn't back down doesn't mean they support the president blindly. Do you realize, dubbya (as you call him) has spent more on programs to assist the poor, raise education standards, try (poorly) to make health care more affordable? I dont' think Iraq was a good place to make this stand. But ya know what, we stepped in to this pile of shit, and now we gotta clean it up. That is unless you advocate running and hiding; turning away from a difficult situation cause we can't do it; making the US less secure; turning the middle east over to Radical Islamic Militants who's entire ethos consists of 1.) Getting rid of Israel 2.) Killing any american, anywhere they can find them.
Don't talk about what has happend; yes, we fucked up many things. But by God have an IDEA of what you advocate and the consequences. Do you really believe that by saying, "OK, ya'll really mean that ya'll don't want us here, our mistake. We'll just go back to the US and leave ya'll alone." will garner us any more support with the Radical Islamic Militants? Do you think it will help us in the world political scheme? What part of the "We made a mess, fucked up a country, and we're just gonna leave now." doctrine will help the US AT ALL?
By the way, if these 300 engineers are worth their degree and P.E. License (if they have one) they will have NO PROBLEM finding work. It just won't be with the government. I feel for them. It took me 6 months to find a job with my degree in computer engineering. Just because you're an engineer doen't garrunte you'll never be fired. It just means they will have to compete in a non-government arena now. They will be fine.
It's really hard to know when to bash the President. You do it before he makes a bad decision and you're a bad American. You do it after he does it and you're a bad American. You do it sometimes inbetween and people tell you to stop drinking Kool-Aid. I'm okay with taxing the poor too. As it is they don't get punished enough. I think we'll need to work harder on getting rid of public radio (liberal heaven) from all the rural areas. Who cares if it's their only source of news they should modernize and move to the city or something. Lets definately not support spending money on them or ignore them altogether. They're dirty people. We should just not fix their levee. Fixing a levee would be proactive and costly. Here's one scary moment we all know about: The asian bird flu. I'm glad we're not doing anything about it but it's better to fight the unknown that... well I'll let one of the big guys tell it: As we know, There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know There are known unknowns. That is to say We know there are some things We do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, The ones we don't know We don't know. -- Donald Rumsfeld I have no idea what that means but I know it's best that we fight them terrorists as hard as we can and forget the known non-terrorist problems. It's the unknown you should be scared about! We'll fight it by fixing social security. Oh, before I end this thread it's true that I haven't been in the President's place. I have tried to hire my friends to FEMA or the highest court in the land. I haven't sent good Americans to die for nation building even though I thought I said I wouldn't do that. So don't mind me. I have no clue. Thank you for letting me rant.
straw man... sorry, you lose. Come back when you choose logic.
Then you sir, need to wake up and listen to Socrates. Paraphrasing him... "I know nothing" Because, when you know nothing, you assume nothing. And when you assume nothing you can think, learn, and be enlightened
Are you Omnipitent? do you know everything that is going on in the world? Do you happen to be under the mistaken impression that you are one iota as informed as our president? then shaddup!
You morons who are taking every opportunity to bash the President should stop drinking the Kool-Aid for a few days. The War will continue, period. The Hurrincanes have a Massive Cost that MUST be paid. The space program is in a transitional period. I would bet there very few, if any, shuttle flights remaining. NASA, like EVERY OTHER AGENCY is taking cuts. Because Bush hates science? No, because the first to things are PIRORITY and the Government (IE Bush) is attempting to PAY for them. Not take out loas, not, tax more, they are trying to PAY for it. If you have a better way of doing it withou saying "TAX THE RICH" (who pay 50-75% of the taxes in the US anyway) lets hear it. Otherwise QUIT YOUR FSCKING WHINING!!!!!! the only thing worse than someone who uses hindsight to critque others, are those who then say how horrible that person is without being in their place for one minute.
And if you want the REALLY SCARY moment... while you're sitting there typing, there are probably dozens of threats that none of us will ever know about. While you critisize, there are REAL Men who go out and do. While you defame and harass, Real Men Die. So Do, or shut the hell up.
No, actually I love America, even with all her faults. Perhaps ya'll forgot what happened that September morning, byt I never will. Anyone associated with aiding that terrorist group should be jailed/killed. Take your pick... I don't care, just punish those disgraces to the human race and the Peaceful religion Islam.
Wonders if you check that little box that says give money to NASA... Wonders if you give your tax return back to the government... Wonders if you write your congressman... Wonders if you've ever had a original thought in your life... Just shoot yourself now and put yourself out of my misery.
The cuts reflect the tremendous cost of warmongering around the world...
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Perhaps if you'd take what you call a head out of your ass and see what is going on in the world,you wouldn't be so quick to call it warmongering. Unless you'd LIKE to be beheaded for what theses crazies call Islam. I have too much respect for real Muslims to call what they do fighting for the sake of Islam.
I personally believe that calling someone a "419" should now be as commonplace as moron, idiot, mouth-breather, imbicile, fucktard, speedy, stupid, or pedro.
pedro?
yep, pedro... (sorry, had a varsity blues moment there).
Oh, and they should be fined an amount equivalent to the rest of their bank account.
Seriously, what other country disparages its "intellectual elite"?
Getting 10,000 new teachers into the school system isn't going to help if they have to teach religion in their science classes. Welcome to the US where 1 in 5 people believe the Sun revolves around the Earth.
Our problem isn't that we don't have enough teachers.
Our problem is that being smarter than the average makes those average people hate you. Most of them don't want to know that what they believe is wrong and they'll oppose anyone who tries to tell them differently. Which is why you see the fight to include things like "Intelligent Design" on the same level as tested and verified scientific findings.
Insightful?? Hrrm.... let me look that up.... Ok, I can't seem to find "gross generalizations", "straw man fallicy", or "egotistical" in the thesaurus for "insightful".
Oh, you are correct in that the problem is not that we don't have enough teachers. The problem is that we don't have enough GOOD teachers. And, paying teachers a salary that keeps them at or even below the "poverty line", requiring them to work upwards of 80 hr weeks, and blaming them for every failure of your child is a sure fire way to get more!
Make a law that every Legal Entity (corporations are a legal entity, as are joe, jim, and mike) can contribute a maximum of $20 to each candidate. That way, the single man down on the corner can buy just as much influence as the mega-corp.... at least on paper.
Why Corporate banks of course! Since a corporation is a legal entity, it must reside somewhere right? Or, it could be that they are bankers who just happen to live at the bank on cots locked in a back room of the vault..... or... bah, I'm bored.... let's move on.
Well, last time I tried Kat, she had the Herpes. Now that's cool and all cause she let me slip in the back way instead. Of course that was after she let her "roomate" and I have some fun to...
Oh, wait! KAT... that search thing... nah, haven't had that before.
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nice little straw man start... but ok... have fun. I'm not saying it's perfect, but direct popular vote would cause alot more problems than electoral college.
that's why congress is elected by popular vote. The ones who make laws should be directly reportable to the people. The one who execute the laws (the president) should be responsible to the judicial and legislative... The judicial is responsible to the executive and the legislative, but also not the people(usually). It's US Government 101... come on now.
How does a Federal Judge who was sitting on the bench before Bush was elected make it the Republican's fault? Oh and BTW, the popular vote means "precisely.... dick". The electoral college is who decides who the president is. Only recently has that college been required to vote as according to the popular vote. And if you want to get nitty gritty, at least one of those other presidents actually won because the electoral college voted directly AGAINST the popular vote. Why should the PResident be elected by popular vote? The will of the people is a fickle thing.
Untill GTalk gets it's ass in gear and makes it where you can connect to all of them, then I'm ditching Trillian and running to GTalk, full steam ahead.
You mean soome reason other than the presidential decree banning political assainations?
Wow, nice assumptions on all of you guys parts. For reference, I apologize that I forgot to mention the Women who have corageously and valliantly served their country... and, unfortunately DIED for thier country. I never asked anyone to go and join the military, it's strictly a voluntary force. And I applaud those who join. Also, I may or may not approve of Liberating Iraq. However, the fact remains that we are in there, what will be accomplished by withdrawing? Save money? Ok, yea it will do that. Allow a country to fall into anarchy? Sure, lets do that. Lets make it look like we can't clean up our messes. Lets also make it seem that we have no will to stand up to armed thugs. Hand a bullhorn to these lunatics so that they can say "look, we drove them out of Iraq! Let's go invade and make them surrender! It's easy, we only have to fight them for a year!" Just because someone says that we shouldn't back down doesn't mean they support the president blindly. Do you realize, dubbya (as you call him) has spent more on programs to assist the poor, raise education standards, try (poorly) to make health care more affordable? I dont' think Iraq was a good place to make this stand. But ya know what, we stepped in to this pile of shit, and now we gotta clean it up. That is unless you advocate running and hiding; turning away from a difficult situation cause we can't do it; making the US less secure; turning the middle east over to Radical Islamic Militants who's entire ethos consists of 1.) Getting rid of Israel 2.) Killing any american, anywhere they can find them.
Don't talk about what has happend; yes, we fucked up many things. But by God have an IDEA of what you advocate and the consequences. Do you really believe that by saying, "OK, ya'll really mean that ya'll don't want us here, our mistake. We'll just go back to the US and leave ya'll alone." will garner us any more support with the Radical Islamic Militants? Do you think it will help us in the world political scheme? What part of the "We made a mess, fucked up a country, and we're just gonna leave now." doctrine will help the US AT ALL?
By the way, if these 300 engineers are worth their degree and P.E. License (if they have one) they will have NO PROBLEM finding work. It just won't be with the government. I feel for them. It took me 6 months to find a job with my degree in computer engineering. Just because you're an engineer doen't garrunte you'll never be fired. It just means they will have to compete in a non-government arena now. They will be fine.
straw man... sorry, you lose. Come back when you choose logic.
Then you sir, need to wake up and listen to Socrates. Paraphrasing him... "I know nothing" Because, when you know nothing, you assume nothing. And when you assume nothing you can think, learn, and be enlightened
Are you Omnipitent? do you know everything that is going on in the world? Do you happen to be under the mistaken impression that you are one iota as informed as our president? then shaddup!
You morons who are taking every opportunity to bash the President should stop drinking the Kool-Aid for a few days. The War will continue, period. The Hurrincanes have a Massive Cost that MUST be paid. The space program is in a transitional period. I would bet there very few, if any, shuttle flights remaining. NASA, like EVERY OTHER AGENCY is taking cuts. Because Bush hates science? No, because the first to things are PIRORITY and the Government (IE Bush) is attempting to PAY for them. Not take out loas, not, tax more, they are trying to PAY for it. If you have a better way of doing it withou saying "TAX THE RICH" (who pay 50-75% of the taxes in the US anyway) lets hear it. Otherwise QUIT YOUR FSCKING WHINING!!!!!! the only thing worse than someone who uses hindsight to critque others, are those who then say how horrible that person is without being in their place for one minute.
And if you want the REALLY SCARY moment... while you're sitting there typing, there are probably dozens of threats that none of us will ever know about. While you critisize, there are REAL Men who go out and do. While you defame and harass, Real Men Die. So Do, or shut the hell up.
No, actually I love America, even with all her faults. Perhaps ya'll forgot what happened that September morning, byt I never will. Anyone associated with aiding that terrorist group should be jailed/killed. Take your pick... I don't care, just punish those disgraces to the human race and the Peaceful religion Islam.
Wonders if you check that little box that says give money to NASA... Wonders if you give your tax return back to the government... Wonders if you write your congressman... Wonders if you've ever had a original thought in your life... Just shoot yourself now and put yourself out of my misery.
br> Perhaps if you'd take what you call a head out of your ass and see what is going on in the world,you wouldn't be so quick to call it warmongering. Unless you'd LIKE to be beheaded for what theses crazies call Islam. I have too much respect for real Muslims to call what they do fighting for the sake of Islam.
Yeah, I got that once... Funny, the only time I'd ever seen it was in my GMail acount.
I personally believe that calling someone a "419" should now be as commonplace as moron, idiot, mouth-breather, imbicile, fucktard, speedy, stupid, or pedro.
pedro?
yep, pedro... (sorry, had a varsity blues moment there).
Oh, and they should be fined an amount equivalent to the rest of their bank account.
Or.... it could be that it's just an OS that everyone else already uses and is easy to steal.....
Oh, you are correct in that the problem is not that we don't have enough teachers. The problem is that we don't have enough GOOD teachers. And, paying teachers a salary that keeps them at or even below the "poverty line", requiring them to work upwards of 80 hr weeks, and blaming them for every failure of your child is a sure fire way to get more!
Make a law that every Legal Entity (corporations are a legal entity, as are joe, jim, and mike) can contribute a maximum of $20 to each candidate. That way, the single man down on the corner can buy just as much influence as the mega-corp.... at least on paper.
Why Corporate banks of course! Since a corporation is a legal entity, it must reside somewhere right? Or, it could be that they are bankers who just happen to live at the bank on cots locked in a back room of the vault..... or... bah, I'm bored.... let's move on.
hrrrm... if you compare flying east to "over the top" I'm sure you can make up the time discrepency...
Just-A-Thought(TM)
but in 10 years, I personally will be sued for infringing on the patent that welcomes our new overlords...
Well, last time I tried Kat, she had the Herpes. Now that's cool and all cause she let me slip in the back way instead. Of course that was after she let her "roomate" and I have some fun to...
Oh, wait! KAT... that search thing... nah, haven't had that before.
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Why don't you read up on some accounting.... then talk about who owes who.
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