The ONLY rights children have are the rights ADULTS LET them have. Period. There has been too much freedom for little wombats and you all think that you are "young adults". Not so.
If anything good can come from such a tragedy, it will be the liberal adults losing influence and the heavy hand of discipline lowering the boom on all of those so called "young adults" in the US public schools. I'm for uniforms, buzz cuts, and a drill instructor with a horse whip in every class.
My system is too heavily invested in RH for me to abandon it for another distro in the name of Macho Geekdom. I usually download archives, and compile and install them myself, and I compiled my own 2.2.5 kernel and have it running nicely. I also installed KDE 1.1, and WindowMaker. My system is mine and it evolves as I evolve. That's one of the reasons I love this OS. In many ways its a living OS. (It's ALIVE!!!!!!)
I do , however, like RH's "upgrade" feature that upgrades every installed package if you want a quick systemwide update with no hassle, and then after that I customize things and go back to installing/upgrading programs manually until a major upgrade happens. Oh well, that's the way I do it.
I have noticed that 2.2.x series are MUCH faster on my system. In X, screen redraws, windows maximizing and minimizing, app startup - ALL much faster. It's a zippier system. Then again, I have a Celeron OC'd to 450mhz and 128 mb of RAM. Maybe the 2.2.x series runs better on fast hardware? Who knows. I ain't complaining.
First, MP3, and I presume 4, are open. That's numero uno. Secondly, I have not read about the LARGE group of MP3 enthusiasts like my friends and I. We rip each other's CD's and cram CDR's with as many as will fit and play them on our workstations at work. I have a Linux development box next to my workstation playing MP3's that I ripped from CD's I own. Screw M$ and their proprietary format. Hopefully MP4 will improve the compression. If MP3/4 goes mostly underground I'll be fine with it. I have no fear that certain companies will keep producing mp3/4 hardware players. The cat's out of the bag and I seriously doubt that M$ or anyone else can put it back in.
BTW, I had to post this from that Linux box since the Winblows media Player co-opted the ".pl" extension on my NT box and when I hit "submit" it tried to play the Perl file. I HATE M$. more every day. EOM@
First, MP3, and I presume 4, are open. That's numero uno. Secondly, I have not read about the LARGE group of MP3 enthusiasts like my friends and I. We rip each other's CD's and cram CDR's with as many as will fit and play them on our workstations at work. I have a Linux development box next to my workstation playing MP3's that I ripped from CD's I own. Screw M$ and their proprietary format. Hopefully MP4 will improve the compression. If MP3/4 goes mostly underground I'll be fine with it. I have no fear that certain companies will keep producing mp3/4 hardware players. The cat's out of the bag and I seriously doubt that M$ or anyone else can put it back in.
BTW, with Netscape mail client, you CAN use the IMAP client option to hook to an exchange server and see all of your mail folders and get your mail. the only thing I can't get is the Global Address Book.
You guys don't friggin get it, do you? Let me ask, what do you guys do for a living?
I never said that the Joe Blow Version of Quicken wouldn't be better than the real Quicken, but that most people out there want the real version. Hell, I would use the free one just fine.
Also, I would rather have people using Linux with Real Player and other commercial apps than doing the same under WINBLOWS!
Free software is great, and I heartily thank all of the developers of high quality free software out there. As both a home AND workplace user of Linux, I can see that big name commercial software is needed as much as any to defeat the Evil Empire in the corporate world. When I try to convince other tech people to give it a try, the first words out of their mouth is what familiar software (i.e. commercial software) is available for it. They don't want high quality free knockoffs of commercial software, they want the real stuff. Alot of home users I talk to ask about Quicken and MS Office. I usually let them know about Corel and Star Office (and Applix) as an MSOff alternative, but what about Quicken and the rest? These people don't want Joe Blow GNU version of Quicken. I'm sure the more radical will say, "The Hell with them...". To those I say get a frekin life. The rest of the world couldn't give a shit about some crusade to push a free OS. They want software to run on it. I myself didn't fully adopt it until better WM's came out and there was more high quality software. Big Business wants Enterprise Level stuff (Thanks to Oracle, Sybase, Informix, etc). This whole new noteriety for Linux would have never come about without the weigh in of the "For Profit" crowd. That's just the way it is.
So, in closing, if you like free software, GREAT - who doesn't? Don't knock somebody for wanting to make a profit on good software and stop calling them Software Whores. It only makes you look like a Goddamn Lowlife.
I have been very nice to her. I also reminded her that I am a Real Subscription holder. Yeah, that's right, I actually PAID for the stuff, and as a paying customer I demand a G2 for LINUX!
I have been bitching to REAL to release the G2 player for Linux for quite some time. All I ever hear is, "We are working on it...", and meanwhile, most streaming links require the G2 codecs and do not work with the 5.0 player. Can anyone get on Real's ass to move it?
Here is teh teext of their last reply a few days ago:
"Hi,
The File compression message that you are receiving refers to content which was created for our G2 Player. Because the UNIX Player is uses the 5.0 Player codecs, your Player can not access that content. We are aware of this problem and are working diligently to release a UNIX RealPlayer G2. Please continue to check our website for new version.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you."
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The ONLY rights children have are the rights ADULTS LET them have. Period. There has been too much freedom for little wombats and you all think that you are "young adults". Not so.
If anything good can come from such a tragedy, it will be the liberal adults losing influence and the heavy hand of discipline lowering the boom on all of those so called "young adults" in the US public schools. I'm for uniforms, buzz cuts, and a drill instructor with a horse whip in every class.
My system is too heavily invested in RH for me to abandon it for another distro in the name of Macho Geekdom. I usually download archives, and compile and install them myself, and I compiled my own 2.2.5 kernel and have it running nicely. I also installed KDE 1.1, and WindowMaker. My system is mine and it evolves as I evolve. That's one of the reasons I love this OS. In many ways its a living OS. (It's ALIVE!!!!!!)
I do , however, like RH's "upgrade" feature that upgrades every installed package if you want a quick systemwide update with no hassle, and then after that I customize things and go back to installing/upgrading programs manually until a major upgrade happens. Oh well, that's the way I do it.
To each his/her own is what I proclaim.
I have noticed that 2.2.x series are MUCH faster on my system. In X, screen redraws, windows maximizing and minimizing, app startup - ALL much faster. It's a zippier system. Then again, I have a Celeron OC'd to 450mhz and 128 mb of RAM. Maybe the 2.2.x series runs better on fast hardware? Who knows. I ain't complaining.
There is also more hardware support, etc...
First, MP3, and I presume 4, are open. That's numero uno. Secondly, I have not
read about the LARGE group of MP3 enthusiasts like my friends and I. We rip
each other's CD's and cram CDR's with as many as will fit and play them on our
workstations at work. I have a Linux development box next to my workstation
playing MP3's that I ripped from CD's I own. Screw M$ and their proprietary
format. Hopefully MP4 will improve the compression. If MP3/4 goes mostly
underground I'll be fine with it. I have no fear that certain companies will
keep producing mp3/4 hardware players. The cat's out of the bag and I
seriously doubt that M$ or anyone else can put it back in.
BTW, I had to post this from that Linux box since the Winblows media Player co-opted the ".pl" extension on my NT box and when I hit "submit" it tried to play the Perl file. I HATE M$. more every day.
EOM@
First, MP3, and I presume 4, are open. That's numero uno. Secondly, I have not read about the LARGE group of MP3 enthusiasts like my friends and I. We rip each other's CD's and cram CDR's with as many as will fit and play them on our workstations at work. I have a Linux development box next to my workstation playing MP3's that I ripped from CD's I own. Screw M$ and their proprietary format. Hopefully MP4 will improve the compression. If MP3/4 goes mostly underground I'll be fine with it. I have no fear that certain companies will keep producing mp3/4 hardware players. The cat's out of the bag and I seriously doubt that M$ or anyone else can put it back in.
EOM
BTW, with Netscape mail client, you CAN use the IMAP client option to hook to an exchange server and see all of your mail folders and get your mail. the only thing I can't get is the Global Address Book.
I do all my REAL work under Linux and only use M$ for cd burning, playstation game copying, and watching a few videos. Linux 95% of the time, however.
NT might cost $100 for you educational users, but it costs several hundred for non educational buyers.
I think Star Office IS available for Windoze.
You guys don't friggin get it, do you? Let me ask, what do you guys do for a living?
I never said that the Joe Blow Version of Quicken wouldn't be better than the real Quicken, but that most people out there want the real version. Hell, I would use the free one just fine.
Also, I would rather have people using Linux with Real Player and other commercial apps than doing the same under WINBLOWS!
Free software is great, and I heartily thank all of the developers of high quality free software out there. As both a home AND workplace user of Linux, I can see that big name commercial software is needed as much as any to defeat the Evil Empire in the corporate world. When I try to convince other tech people to give it a try, the first words out of their mouth is what familiar software (i.e. commercial software) is available for it. They don't want high quality free knockoffs of commercial software, they want the real stuff. Alot of home users I talk to ask about Quicken and MS Office. I usually let them know about Corel and Star Office (and Applix) as an MSOff alternative, but what about Quicken and the rest? These people don't want Joe Blow GNU version of Quicken. I'm sure the more radical will say, "The Hell with them...". To those I say get a frekin life. The rest of the world couldn't give a shit about some crusade to push a free OS. They want software to run on it. I myself didn't fully adopt it until better WM's came out and there was more high quality software. Big Business wants Enterprise Level stuff (Thanks to Oracle, Sybase, Informix, etc). This whole new noteriety for Linux would have never come about without the weigh in of the "For Profit" crowd. That's just the way it is.
So, in closing, if you like free software, GREAT - who doesn't? Don't knock somebody for wanting to make a profit on good software and stop calling them Software Whores. It only makes you look like a Goddamn Lowlife.
I have been very nice to her. I also reminded her that I am a Real Subscription holder. Yeah, that's right, I actually PAID for the stuff, and as a paying customer I demand a G2 for LINUX!
I have been bitching to REAL to release the G2 player for Linux for quite some time. All I ever hear is, "We are working on it...", and meanwhile, most streaming links require the G2 codecs and do not work with the 5.0 player. Can anyone get on Real's ass to move it?
Here is teh teext of their last reply a few days ago:
"Hi,
The File compression message that you are receiving refers to content which
was created for our G2 Player. Because the UNIX Player is uses the 5.0
Player codecs, your Player can not access that content. We are aware of
this problem and are working diligently to release a UNIX RealPlayer G2.
Please continue to check our website for new version.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you."
Thanks,
Rebecka LeBrun
RealNetworks
rlebrun@real.com