Fair enough... If you have the time and patience and reading skill necessary to wade through all the obfuscated quasi-legalese, you will relaize that this is a crock and, at the apropriate politeness level, thank Micro$oft and ask that they kindly pound sand.
I'd be willing to bet you that the overwhealming proportion of lay users out there who receive some sort of notification from M$ that doesn't exactly say, "Pay us more money or we'll take your internet away"... but thinks it very loudly.... will pay the few bucks to make sure they are on M$' good side.
I see now that I listed icecast twice! AIGH! Please ignore the first instance of icecast listed in my previous post! It does not come with Fedora... download it from xiph.org.
Sorry about that, chief! Missed it by that much....Would you believe/this/ much?
-- Maxwell Smart (Agent 86)
cdparanoia rips (Comes with Fedora) oggenc encodes (Comes with Fedora) icecast streams (Comes with Fedora) apache (Comes with Fedora) serves PERL (Comes with Fedora) CGI library and request app mysql (Comes with Fedora) provides the DB icecast streams output (xiph.org) bash scripts to tie it all together (Comes with Fedora)
I've built an icecast "home radio station" that runs 24/7, building playlists based on genre, not repeating a song in a day, pulling text newscasts and weather forecasts off the web and ramming them thru Festival, with time checks.
When you want to listen, just tune it in on another box on the networks.
I've been using GNU/Linux since late 1998. I started just hoping to have a sandbox environment where I could practice my recently-acquired AIX skills (we had one AIX box at work, which was a production Sybase DB server... a lone box... no clusters or hot backups... one box... and I was a newbie... a scared newbie). I set up a Linux box and started poking and prodding and practicing. I set up a website, started writing some BASH and PERL scripts... set up cron jobs and all the other adminny sorts of things that *NIX newbies do. At the time I had 3 Win95 boxen on my desk (and my hidden RHL6.2 box). I came across VMWare. Bliss! Joy! More Physical Space on my Desk!!!
I eliminated all the physical Win95 boxen on my desk, and build virtual machines instead... Glee! I found myself using Win95 less and less. Eventually, I was using Mozilla as my Exchange client (I never used the calendar or task list anyway), OpenOffice.org as my Office Suite (I usually write in gEdit or vi anyway). I was in hog heaven.
Then... I discovered that Sybase had released their ASE 11.0.3.3 product for linux, for free, for eval AND DEPLOYMENT. It just so happened that the aging AIX box our production database was running on was running ASE 11.0.3.3! I immediately dowloaded the product and began figuring out how to reverse engineer the existing prod database onto the Linux platform. I had that running on a Linux virtual machine on my Linux desktop box. Did a bunch of testing and enventually convinced my boss to dump the AIX platform, which was costing us USD$12,000 a year for "support" and would have cost us USD$40,000 for a replacement box, and instead, get a triad of Dell PowerEdges, 2 running Linux and one running Win2K AS (I was really pulling for the tripple crown... but as Meatloaf sez: "Two outa three ain't bad.") for ten grand less than the single IBM box.... oh... and there's that $12,000 a year we were no longer spending...
I now run a M$-free household. I have a Sharp Zaurus, a Sony VAIO laptop and a variety of whiteboxen... GNU/Linux on every one. Do I miss MS Windows? Not at all. I've given both of my parents boxen running Fedora Core, and they use them without complaint.
The difference between MS Windows and GNU/Linux for me is this:
Before I started working with MS products, I was an Atari head. I cut my teeth on an Atari 400 (with the membrane keyboard, cartridge slot and a whopping 16k of RAM) Certainly that system had its limitations, but it was pretty open. Then MS came into my life... first with DOS, then Windows. The hardware was certainly more powerful than my old Atari 8-bit machines, but the overall system felt lamer. The "Joie du calcul" I had known with my Ataris eventually died. I got used to MS Windows, and I used it. I didn't love it. I got quite proficient with keyboard shortcuts and so on... but I wasn't passionate about it. I didn't care about it. It was like having a co-worker that you don't like, but can tollerate; you would never invite him or her over to your house to have dinner or watch a game or whatever. Then I started using GNU/Linux. My "Joie du calcul" from the old days was back. It was back with a vengance. I tried doing everything in GNU/Linux... and nearly everything I tried worked (often not the first time, but that's how we learn). I have never had a catestrophic system failure or data loss I could conclusively attribute to GNU/Linux. I've had hardware up and fail... HDDs, PowerSupplies and so on... and sometimes without having backed up. My fault, not GNU/Linux's. Sure, sometimes drivers for bleeding-edge hardware are unavailable. Fair enough, but I feel safer, more confident, more in-control and happier on FedoraCore2 Test2 than on WinXP Pro SP2.
The final nail in the coffin:
I was waiting in line at BeastBuy one night, and they had all these expensive software products in the "impusle buy" area. That struck me as strange, but OK... I took a moment to add up all the MS(a
Fair enough... If you have the time and patience and reading skill necessary to wade through all the obfuscated quasi-legalese, you will relaize that this is a crock and, at the apropriate politeness level, thank Micro$oft and ask that they kindly pound sand.
I'd be willing to bet you that the overwhealming proportion of lay users out there who receive some sort of notification from M$ that doesn't exactly say, "Pay us more money or we'll take your internet away"... but thinks it very loudly.... will pay the few bucks to make sure they are on M$' good side.
Oops!! Brain fade!
...Would you believe /this/ much?
I see now that I listed icecast twice! AIGH! Please ignore the first instance of icecast listed in my previous post! It does not come with Fedora... download it from xiph.org.
Sorry about that, chief! Missed it by that much.
-- Maxwell Smart (Agent 86)
cdparanoia rips (Comes with Fedora)
oggenc encodes (Comes with Fedora)
icecast streams (Comes with Fedora)
apache (Comes with Fedora) serves PERL (Comes with Fedora) CGI library and request app
mysql (Comes with Fedora) provides the DB
icecast streams output (xiph.org)
bash scripts to tie it all together (Comes with Fedora)
I've built an icecast "home radio station" that runs 24/7, building playlists based on genre, not repeating a song in a day, pulling text newscasts and weather forecasts off the web and ramming them thru Festival, with time checks.
When you want to listen, just tune it in on another box on the networks.
You can run the whole thing thru ssh.
I've been using GNU/Linux since late 1998. I started just hoping to have a sandbox environment where I could practice my recently-acquired AIX skills (we had one AIX box at work, which was a production Sybase DB server... a lone box... no clusters or hot backups ... one box... and I was a newbie... a scared newbie). I set up a Linux box and started poking and prodding and practicing. I set up a website, started writing some BASH and PERL scripts... set up cron jobs and all the other adminny sorts of things that *NIX newbies do. At the time I had 3 Win95 boxen on my desk (and my hidden RHL6.2 box). I came across VMWare. Bliss! Joy! More Physical Space on my Desk!!!
... oh... and there's that $12,000 a year we were no longer spending...
I eliminated all the physical Win95 boxen on my desk, and build virtual machines instead... Glee! I found myself using Win95 less and less. Eventually, I was using Mozilla as my Exchange client (I never used the calendar or task list anyway), OpenOffice.org as my Office Suite (I usually write in gEdit or vi anyway). I was in hog heaven.
Then... I discovered that Sybase had released their ASE 11.0.3.3 product for linux, for free, for eval AND DEPLOYMENT. It just so happened that the aging AIX box our production database was running on was running ASE 11.0.3.3! I immediately dowloaded the product and began figuring out how to reverse engineer the existing prod database onto the Linux platform. I had that running on a Linux virtual machine on my Linux desktop box. Did a bunch of testing and enventually convinced my boss to dump the AIX platform, which was costing us USD$12,000 a year for "support" and would have cost us USD$40,000 for a replacement box, and instead, get a triad of Dell PowerEdges, 2 running Linux and one running Win2K AS (I was really pulling for the tripple crown... but as Meatloaf sez: "Two outa three ain't bad.") for ten grand less than the single IBM box.
I now run a M$-free household. I have a Sharp Zaurus, a Sony VAIO laptop and a variety of whiteboxen... GNU/Linux on every one. Do I miss MS Windows? Not at all. I've given both of my parents boxen running Fedora Core, and they use them without complaint.
The difference between MS Windows and GNU/Linux for me is this:
Before I started working with MS products, I was an Atari head. I cut my teeth on an Atari 400 (with the membrane keyboard, cartridge slot and a whopping 16k of RAM) Certainly that system had its limitations, but it was pretty open. Then MS came into my life... first with DOS, then Windows. The hardware was certainly more powerful than my old Atari 8-bit machines, but the overall system felt lamer. The "Joie du calcul" I had known with my Ataris eventually died. I got used to MS Windows, and I used it. I didn't love it. I got quite proficient with keyboard shortcuts and so on... but I wasn't passionate about it. I didn't care about it. It was like having a co-worker that you don't like, but can tollerate; you would never invite him or her over to your house to have dinner or watch a game or whatever. Then I started using GNU/Linux. My "Joie du calcul" from the old days was back. It was back with a vengance. I tried doing everything in GNU/Linux... and nearly everything I tried worked (often not the first time, but that's how we learn). I have never had a catestrophic system failure or data loss I could conclusively attribute to GNU/Linux. I've had hardware up and fail... HDDs, PowerSupplies and so on... and sometimes without having backed up. My fault, not GNU/Linux's. Sure, sometimes drivers for bleeding-edge hardware are unavailable. Fair enough, but I feel safer, more confident, more in-control and happier on FedoraCore2 Test2 than on WinXP Pro SP2.
The final nail in the coffin:
I was waiting in line at BeastBuy one night, and they had all these expensive software products in the "impusle buy" area. That struck me as strange, but OK... I took a moment to add up all the MS(a