I would have called him on the fact that he has asked you to misrepresent the facts on your resume. How far are you supposed to take that? What is the extent of fabrication that they want?
I just want straight answers about compatability. Obviously benchmarks are going to show this beast for the holy terror it is. My SN41G2 is wonderful, and I'm thinking about getting an 85.
But, I don't find information such as, is that version of Radeon card fully supported by Linux both as a framebuffer console and accelerated X server?
Is that "6-in-1" card reader one of the chipsets that's supported as a MTD?
What kind of ALSA/Jack support is there for the sound card? Especially, does SP/DIF work?
Does Linux support the SATA architecture on this board?
Is there even a well-established Athlon-64 port of the linux kernel? I saw a couple of press releases but it had not occurred to me that I might get my hands on one of these things until just now.
1. Where can I buy one? I already have an SN41G2 and am blissfully happy with it. I was going to buy another one, but now I want the Athlon64 version.
2. Does all the hardware built into the SN85G4 have driver support under Linux? Good driver support? Radeon driver for X11? TV-Out? How is the ALSA driver for the sound? Even the SP/DIF IO? How about the network chipset? SATA?
Without knowing ahead of time that there's 100% Linux support for this thing, I can't buy it. On the other hand, I'd order one right now if I knew that Linux fully supports it. ("Fully supports" means *everything*, including SP/DIF audio, Framebuffer console as well as X-accel and tv-out, plus SATA. (Does Linux really work with *any* SATA yet?)
Yes it does, and I use it routinely. I also know about, and I use, rxvt.
Now, does it give me indistinguishable characteristics from the same machine running linux on consoles with fbset 1280x1024-75 ? NO.
Do I have an equivalent of alt-Fn to switch virtual consoles, with a separate user environemt and separate shell on each one? NO.
Can I easily switch between this mode and graphics mode? No.
Perhaps there is a way to get the NT console into a vesa mode, but I want more than just vesa!
My whole point is that here is a feature I enjoy on linux that does not exist on windows, and cannot even be emulated on windows to my satisfaction. I'd like to be told I'm wrong. But it's hard enough just to find people who understand what the hell I'm talking about.
I *really* like the shell on a framebuffer console. It's the main reason I use Linux.
"If you use the native Windows port of rxvt supplied with Cygwin instead of Windows console, you can have your 160x60 consoles without problems."
No I can't! I can get pretty close I guess, and maybe even close enough to be workable. But can you sit me down at a windows box and tell me it's linux? No. Because there are video modes that apparently cannot be duplicated on the same hardware running windows. And I don't know what you're going to do about switching VC's. Yes, I know to use screen.
There's something about SVGA and/or framebuffer consoles that I like *a lot*, that rxvt does not give me. There is something that my hardware can do for me under one OS, that it cannot do under another. It's actually one of the few things that I can put my finger on as a specific feature, and I see it as a limitation of Windows.
"A woman who worked in a law office got scammed into shelling out about $2 million of her employer's money. "
The filter I want to put that through, is something like "Nobody is that stupid, perhaps there is more to the story."
My guess is that the scam was more insidious than stupid. She knew the 419 was a scam. So she tried to connect her employer to the scammer, collecting some money in the middle. The plan was to make it look like her employer had fallen for the scam, presumably in hopes that the employer would be so embarrassed that it would all be covered up and nobody would ever suspect her. Or something.
I think it's more likely that someone might be tempted to try to use this scam as a means to an end to help pull their own scam, than anyone would ever actually be tempted to fall for it. And if they did, well, fool and their (MILLIONS $ US). And if they stole someone else's money to do it, usually people tend to notice (MILLIONS $$ US) missing, and it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you were the last person to handle it.
Cygwin is much more than just "bash in the console", which you would discover if you bothered to check. It's actually getting to the point where it is often hard to make the argument for a unix-like system in terms of userland apps, because lots of stuff runs under Cygwin. There's even a fairly decent XFree86 server. You can compile and run GTK apps, for instance. It makes the filesystem transparent. All kinds of good things.
I still can't get anything close enough to linux Virtual Consoles (160x60 Framebuffer consoles, not 80x50!, and I want 10 of them!), but if I could have that, I'd probably end up running windows more than I do -- something Stallman would no doubt call GNU/Windows...
Is it legal?
Are you inferring its bastardy? The source is there, with explicit copyright, authorship, and revision history, it's all GPL, and it's pretty much a straightforward port of the GNU userland into the Cygwin runtime. Which does a pretty good job, not just "a good job considering."
I *really* wish XP (or 2000) had close-to-the-hardware consoles, just like linux has. It's my favorite feature of linux. The console.
"WTO Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights"
Treaties, of course. But a nation as powerful a force as *China* only follows treaties to the extent that benefits China. If China decides to go hostile, what does the rest of the world think it's going to do about it?
All the military and political force in the world isn't going to force China to do anything China does not choose to do. Treaties are toilet paper without either cooperation or force. Right now, there is substantial cooperation. What conceivable force is there, in the absence of that cooperation?
Are you sure the marginal cost of increasing the rpm's is really higher than the cost of going from inert to 1x rotation? It seems to me that it would follow a logistics curve.
I use Linux because it allows me to have a console at 160 columns by 64 lines, without having to use any kind of high resolution graphic desktop to draw that console.
I cannot do this in any version of Windows.
This is the single most significant feature that keeps me using Linux. The console.
My riovolt runs a battery charge out pretty quickly playing a CD, because the disc spins the whole time. But when playing MP3's off a cd, it only spins the disc when it needs to read and decode. Runs much, much longer on a battery charge.
If we could get CDDA ripping speed faster, we could have players that simply rip the audio from the CD and play it from RAM.
"For example, Linus owns the copyright to Linux, and licensed it under the GPL. SCO just violated that license, and Linus didn't sue. Does that mean he's releasing it into public domain now?"
No, it absolutely does not mean that, although many people seem to have the misconception that it does. Talk about your chilling effects on publishing. If you aren't willing or able to sue anyone who might popularize your creative work, you forfeit your rights to it? Even if you do not have standing to file suit in the USA?
As a delay tactic, making subpoenae could easily backfire. You cannot subpoena an individual without setting a date for that individual to appear. And you cannot set that date unreasonably.
It probably makes sense to depose Torvalds, since he is obviously a material witness. Does it make sense to depose Stallman as well? As an authority on the GPL and its legal implications, Stallman (and his counsel) certainly could be expected to be an expert.
There won't be any courtroom drama. It could just be a telephone interview with Torvalds and his counsel on one end of the phone, SCO's attorney on the other end, both running through a list of questions that they have already reviewed. That deposition becomes sworn testimony, and could conceivably be given to a jury at some point.
There won't be any Perry Mason moments. This case is never going to be discussed inside a courtroom, period.
If merely being a foreigner made you exempt from a country's laws, what kind of order would that country have? When you are in a country, you are expected to obey that country's laws, whether you are a citizen or not.
If you're not *in* the US, that's another story. But Linus made the decision to move to California from Finland.
I'm far more concerned about the existence of an undocumented means of remote accessibility than any other concern here. I think that aspect of it has been kind of swept under the rug.
>The _only_ reason they're fixing it is because >they got caught.
Someone might have actually gotten through to them that there are potential liability issues. The most obvious one I saw dealt with HIPAA. The argument of course being that hospitals don't use consumer products for their infotech... Ah, but sometimes they do! It's conceivable that, through a firmware upgrade, and unknown to the client, a security risk could be introduced. While that's still the customer's responsibility, the effect could be an unmitigated disaster.
I wish the first person to notice this had been some lawyer who does his own pc networking.
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I would have called him on the fact that he has asked you to misrepresent the facts on your resume. How far are you supposed to take that? What is the extent of fabrication that they want?
"[You're] not alone. IT is one of those fields where you live by the sward, die by the sward."
I think you have IT confused with agriculture.
"Then perhaps it's time for somebody to write "dxvt", or "DirectX Video Terminal", a terminal emulator that runs in a fullscreen DirectDraw session. "
I guess that would be as good as it gets.
Wonder if I can get started just with visual studio...
I just want straight answers about compatability. Obviously benchmarks are going to show this beast for the holy terror it is. My SN41G2 is wonderful, and I'm thinking about getting an 85.
But, I don't find information such as, is that version of Radeon card fully supported by Linux both as a framebuffer console and accelerated X server?
Is that "6-in-1" card reader one of the chipsets that's supported as a MTD?
What kind of ALSA/Jack support is there for the sound card? Especially, does SP/DIF work?
Does Linux support the SATA architecture on this board?
Is there even a well-established Athlon-64 port of the linux kernel? I saw a couple of press releases but it had not occurred to me that I might get my hands on one of these things until just now.
1. Where can I buy one? I already have an SN41G2 and am blissfully happy with it. I was going to buy another one, but now I want the Athlon64 version.
2. Does all the hardware built into the SN85G4 have driver support under Linux? Good driver support? Radeon driver for X11? TV-Out? How is the ALSA driver for the sound? Even the SP/DIF IO? How about the network chipset? SATA?
Without knowing ahead of time that there's 100% Linux support for this thing, I can't buy it. On the other hand, I'd order one right now if I knew that Linux fully supports it. ("Fully supports" means *everything*, including SP/DIF audio, Framebuffer console as well as X-accel and tv-out, plus SATA. (Does Linux really work with *any* SATA yet?)
>Doesn't the program 'screen' run on cygwin?
Yes it does, and I use it routinely. I also know about, and I use, rxvt.
Now, does it give me indistinguishable characteristics from the same machine running linux on consoles with fbset 1280x1024-75 ?
NO.
Do I have an equivalent of alt-Fn to switch virtual consoles, with a separate user environemt and separate shell on each one? NO.
Can I easily switch between this mode and graphics mode? No.
Perhaps there is a way to get the NT console into a vesa mode, but I want more than just vesa!
My whole point is that here is a feature I enjoy on linux that does not exist on windows, and cannot even be emulated on windows to my satisfaction. I'd like to be told I'm wrong. But it's hard enough just to find people who understand what the hell I'm talking about.
I *really* like the shell on a framebuffer console. It's the main reason I use Linux.
"If you use the native Windows port of rxvt supplied with Cygwin instead of Windows console, you can have your 160x60 consoles without problems."
No I can't! I can get pretty close I guess, and maybe even close enough to be workable. But can you sit me down at a windows box and tell me it's linux? No. Because there are video modes that apparently cannot be duplicated on the same hardware running windows. And I don't know what you're going to do about switching VC's. Yes, I know to use screen.
There's something about SVGA and/or framebuffer consoles that I like *a lot*, that rxvt does not give me. There is something that my hardware can do for me under one OS, that it cannot do under another. It's actually one of the few things that I can put my finger on as a specific feature, and I see it as a limitation of Windows.
"There are quite a few /.ers complaining about not jobs but have they applied to the local police academy?"
I did. They rejected me because I admitted to smoking pot as an adult.
That's not a story. That was actually my strategy for getting laid in college. It worked really well.
"A woman who worked in a law office got scammed into shelling out about $2 million of her employer's money. "
The filter I want to put that through, is something like "Nobody is that stupid, perhaps there is more to the story."
My guess is that the scam was more insidious than stupid. She knew the 419 was a scam. So she tried to connect her employer to the scammer, collecting some money in the middle. The plan was to make it look like her employer had fallen for the scam, presumably in hopes that the employer would be so embarrassed that it would all be covered up and nobody would ever suspect her. Or something.
I think it's more likely that someone might be tempted to try to use this scam as a means to an end to help pull their own scam, than anyone would ever actually be tempted to fall for it. And if they did, well, fool and their (MILLIONS $ US). And if they stole someone else's money to do it, usually people tend to notice (MILLIONS $$ US) missing, and it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you were the last person to handle it.
>Yes, I know it was the forest service, but the
>duties didn't mention anything tree-related.
Anyone I'd hire to develop financial systems had better be able to do the equivalent of a final exam in a GAAP course.
Remember the thread about IT in the FBI? You do a full year as a police cadet before you go back to the tech job.
Likewise, consider what techs in the military have to do...
>Welcome to the low wage economy.
I'll believe that when I stop seeing brand new $40,000 cars and 5 bedroom houses going up.
It's not a low wage economy, it's just low-wage for *you*.
Cygwin is much more than just "bash in the console", which you would discover if you bothered to check. It's actually getting to the point where it is often hard to make the argument for a unix-like system in terms of userland apps, because lots of stuff runs under Cygwin. There's even a fairly decent XFree86 server. You can compile and run GTK apps, for instance. It makes the filesystem transparent. All kinds of good things.
I still can't get anything close enough to linux Virtual Consoles (160x60 Framebuffer consoles, not 80x50!, and I want 10 of them!), but if I could have that, I'd probably end up running windows more than I do -- something Stallman would no doubt call GNU/Windows...
Is it legal?
Are you inferring its bastardy? The source is there, with explicit copyright, authorship, and revision history, it's all GPL, and it's pretty much a straightforward port of the GNU userland into the Cygwin runtime. Which does a pretty good job, not just "a good job considering."
I *really* wish XP (or 2000) had close-to-the-hardware consoles, just like linux has. It's my favorite feature of linux. The console.
"WTO Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights"
Treaties, of course. But a nation as powerful a force as *China* only follows treaties to the extent that benefits China. If China decides to go hostile, what does the rest of the world think it's going to do about it?
All the military and political force in the world isn't going to force China to do anything China does not choose to do. Treaties are toilet paper without either cooperation or force. Right now, there is substantial cooperation. What conceivable force is there, in the absence of that cooperation?
"Basically China - and most of the world - will remain second-rate since they can only produce what the USA allows, and at the rate it dictates."
Compliance with US policy makes them money hand over fist. If that status changes substantially, so will their incentive to continue compliance.
What force on Earth do you really believe could be leveraged against China?
Are you sure the marginal cost of increasing the rpm's is really higher than the cost of going from inert to 1x rotation? It seems to me that it would follow a logistics curve.
I use Linux because it allows me to have a console at 160 columns by 64 lines, without having to use any kind of high resolution graphic desktop to draw that console.
I cannot do this in any version of Windows.
This is the single most significant feature that keeps me using Linux. The console.
You are among those who still suffer under the old misconception that "free" means only "no financial cost."
That's not what free software is really about. No cost is an EFFECT of free software, not a cause.
>What can be done?
The US can be left as a smoking crater, and the rest of the world doesn't need to care.
My riovolt runs a battery charge out pretty quickly playing a CD, because the disc spins the whole time. But when playing MP3's off a cd, it only spins the disc when it needs to read and decode. Runs much, much longer on a battery charge.
If we could get CDDA ripping speed faster, we could have players that simply rip the audio from the CD and play it from RAM.
"For example, Linus owns the copyright to Linux, and licensed it under the GPL. SCO just violated that license, and Linus didn't sue. Does that
mean he's releasing it into public domain now?"
No, it absolutely does not mean that, although many people seem to have the misconception that it does. Talk about your chilling effects on publishing. If you aren't willing or able to sue anyone who might popularize your creative work, you forfeit your rights to it? Even if you do not have standing to file suit in the USA?
>SCO's subpoenas are nothing but a delay tactic.
As a delay tactic, making subpoenae could easily backfire. You cannot subpoena an individual without setting a date for that individual to appear. And you cannot set that date unreasonably.
It probably makes sense to depose Torvalds, since he is obviously a material witness. Does it make sense to depose Stallman as well? As an authority on the GPL and its legal implications, Stallman (and his counsel) certainly could be expected to be an expert.
There won't be any courtroom drama. It could just be a telephone interview with Torvalds and his counsel on one end of the phone, SCO's attorney on the other end, both running through a list of questions that they have already reviewed. That deposition becomes sworn testimony, and could conceivably be given to a jury at some point.
There won't be any Perry Mason moments. This case is never going to be discussed inside a courtroom, period.
If merely being a foreigner made you exempt from a country's laws, what kind of order would that country have? When you are in a country, you are expected to obey that country's laws, whether you are a citizen or not.
If you're not *in* the US, that's another story. But Linus made the decision to move to California from Finland.
I'm far more concerned about the existence of an undocumented means of remote accessibility than any other concern here. I think that aspect of it has been kind of swept under the rug.
>The _only_ reason they're fixing it is because
>they got caught.
Someone might have actually gotten through to them that there are potential liability issues.
The most obvious one I saw dealt with HIPAA. The argument of course being that hospitals don't use consumer products for their infotech... Ah, but sometimes they do! It's conceivable that, through a firmware upgrade, and unknown to the client, a security risk could be introduced. While that's still the customer's responsibility, the effect could be an unmitigated disaster.
I wish the first person to notice this had been some lawyer who does his own pc networking.