>The only way to filter for your employees is white-listing.
Sorry, but no. That is insane, because if you are in a company that does worldwide business, whitelisting, which is entirely in-house, becomes unwieldy. It cheaper (in terms of real cost) and more efficient (in terms of resources) to simply subscribe to Bluecoat or some other filter company that does the job for you.
>I think I nailed where we failed at doing the right thing with TLD's and should go back and fix that for the future. If it ends up that.com and.org end up as basically indistinguishable that's one mistake we can live with, if all of the other possible TLD's have that problem then they really are meaningless, and we should rapidly move to prevent that.
Too late. The time to keep all the ducks in a row has passed and to Joe and Josephine User, it matters not, because nobody ever bothered to explain to them why TLDs were created. That ship has sailed. That can of worms has been opened. That spaghetti cannot be untangled.
See the other user's comment in this thread about the.me domain and not even knowing that it stood for Montenegro.
Windows applications Cyclope-Series (proprietary) Green Dam Youth Escort (Mainland Chinese Government mandated software) K9 Web Protection (proprietary, free for home use) Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway (proprietary) NetNanny (proprietary) SurfWatch (proprietary) SafeSquid (proprietary, free for up to 3 users) Windows Live Family Safety (proprietary, free) Secure Web SmartFilter EDU, formerly known as Bess FB Limiter (free, paid upgrade available) [edit] Mac applications K9 Web Protection (proprietary, free for home use) SurfWatch (proprietary, free for home use) [edit] Hardware solutions Lightspeed Systems (hosted or hardware, for mobile or desktop) [edit] Web browser [edit] Internet Explorer Content Advisor (After IE 6) [edit] Other CleanFeed (ISP based) ClearOS (unix/linux and ISP based) DansGuardian (unix/linux and ISP based) DynDNS (DNS based, with a free plan) Mobicip (cloud-based) OnlineFamily.Norton (cloud-based) OpenDNS (DNS/ISP based, free for Families and Non-commercial users) SafeSquid (unix/linux and ISP based) Scieno Sitter (system unknown: used exclusively by Church of Scientology members under an NDA) SmartWeb (Parental Control for Apple iPhone and iPod Touch platforms) Websense (system unknown: notable for use by China, Yemen, and US Governments)
I don't see how the Christ botherers are upset about Sharia Law. The Wahabbists and Dominionists want the same exact things.
I first discovered CDD from shortwave frequency preachers back in the mid 80s and it is frightening. You go to the front page of the CDD movement on the web and it seems... "okay not so bad" but then you listen to actual preachers and enthusiasts and it's like something out of the 14'th century.
Free is infinitely less expensive than $2/year. We're talking about squatters here, who "buy" domains in the thousands without spending a penny every 4.9 days.
Domain kiting is like domain tasting, but ICANN and the other TLDs have appended a 20 cent fee to each domain taste so the "domain taste millions of names" has shrunken to a trickle.
>1. 99.9% of humans past the age of 13 have sexual urges.
-While I am sure the percentage is high you have only skewed this to your own ends.
Without sexual urges the human race would have ceased to exist. Lack of sexual urge has been mostly bred out and is seen as "not normal" by most people skilled in the sciences of biology and psychology, usually attributed to hormone imbalance and depression. He has not skewed the data. You have ignored the data all around you.
.com and.org at one point were supposed to mean different things potentially.
You just nailed why TLDs no longer matter. It doesn't matter any more what you or I thought TLDs are supposed to mean. They mean nothing now. They are placeholders. You are lucky if a country code TLD actually matches where the website actually originates from or is targeted to.
Which is why you should pay attention more to what it says on the front page than it says in the TLD.
someone wasn't smart enough to do paperwork for the correct country and we had to do it over
So the "Her Majesty's Government of Australia" on the top of the page did not differentiate from "Her Majesty's Government of Northern Ireland?" I don't know about you, but I find governments to be pretty possessive about their names and make sure they're plastered all over every web page, print publication, video, film, etc.
>gov meaning explicitly US government is bad.
I agree, and it's an argument why TLDs should be done away with. We should have country codes at most.
We have Hasidic Jews in NYC that are upset at bicyclists going through their neighborhood on a Saturday wearing shorts and teeshirts. Especially if they are women.
And that's just the US. I just read a story about how women in Saudi Arabia, that if they have "sexy eyes" while otherwise clothed head-to-toe must also cover up their eyes, or face the beatings by the Religious Police.
I mean.xxx does in some sense acknowledge that people market pron.
When is the last time you paid attention to a TLD? When is the last time *anyone* paid attention to a TLD?
It also should make it MUCH easier for people who want to avoid seeing pron to not be spammed by it.
You are suggesting that all the porn providers would magically all move over to the.xxx domain by themselves, for your convenience. Gosh, you're naive and lazy.
And if you are being spammed by porn, I suggest you examine exactly which websites you are going to. I only get porn spam by visiting, you know, porn sites.
Is it censorship to not look at things I don't want to and now allow them to be seen by people using equipment I have authority over?
English, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Let me try to parse that....
Oh yeah, you can subscribe to one of the many filtering companies out there like Websense and Bluecoat. You can even set your DNS to use the filtering at OpenDNS, which is free (well, they take your demographics and such). There is no shortage of companies that will help you shield your eyes, should you want it. The fact that you are offended by stuff you see says 2 things about you: that you are thin skinned and lazy.
It seems to me.xxx meets a legitimate content labeling goal that can make everyone's life easier because we all understand what kind of 'information' should be labeled in that way and can act appropriately.
As a former retail drone, I must confirm this as the case 25 years ago.
We had the candy room and the car stereo room.
The car stereo room for obvious reasons, and the candy room for the reason that it's all too easy to just cruise on by and grab something yummy and not even write it in the shrinkage book - keep honest people honest.
Everyone in my family, and extended family, has had at least one rescue animal at some point. They tend to be better pets. I have never had a purebred cat, ever. My best cat was a rescue Heinz-57 breed barn-cat that kept the varmint population superbly in check, bless her little violent little heart.
The PARL is a billion times better than anything I've seen from PETA. They actually do fostering and placement.
Of my second comment, I got moderated flamebait because someone couldn't differentiate between growth and dividends, when I clearly said growth in my beginning post. From then on, the war was on.
So I'm a bit impolite. When I have mod points, if I modded down every impolite post I saw, I would never mod anything up. On another note, I find that sprinkling 40 percent down-mods in with up-mods gets you more moderation points on a regular basis rather than following the FAQ and rarely down-modding. I don't like doing that. I like the idea of modding-up insightful posts and only down-modding the obvious offensive trolls instead of trying to hit a percentage to get more mod points.
>you are being modded down for saying stupid things like companies should be broken up
i have been saying this for 10 years. They should be broken up. They are a large, fat, and slow company. If the DOJ had its way, every Microsoft investor would have been much happier by now because a healthier company would have emerged out of the behemoth that uses its profitable divisions to shore up its money losing divisions. It even got to the point where Microsoft no longer differentiates between divisions on their 10K anymore, because it's shameful.
>modded flamebait for pointing out that the definition of growth (you know, market cap and stock price) is not the same definition of dividends (a portion of the profits, whether growth happens or not).
But how does owning the vast majority of desktops translate into growth? If one owns 90 percent of a particular market, you're not going to grow any faster than the overall market. Ergo, Microsoft, whose eggs are nearly/all/ in the OS and Desktop Application (Microsoft Office) basket isn't growing anywhere, especially in this economy.
It's funny watching you guys redirect, dodge and weave and generally avoid the main issue at hand, that is Microsoft's inability to find other places to grow.
The Microsoft of the 80s and 90s is not the same as the Microsoft of the 'aughts.
The Apple of the 80s and 90s is not the same as the Apple of the 'aughts.
In fact, the Apple of the 'aughts has more in common with the Microsoft of the 90s than the Microsoft of today. Apple is a growth company. Microsoft clearly isn't. If a 3 percent dividend yield from Microsoft doesn't tell you that, I don't know what can.
On the Y! finance boards, what you just did is called "chartin' the charts" and is a known logical fallacy. You need to ask Microsoft "what have you done for me lately and what are you going to do in the future?" Charts from 3 decades ago tell you nothing. How about you get into the current century?
Gates/has/ been selling his stock. It's been one of his stated goals to not leave billions to his kids, that they need to make their own way. This is respectable.
Ballmer, OTOH, is not going anywhere. He has no such outlook. His shares are his, and he's not giving up being Head Cheese without a fight.
Also, Microsoft only started giving out dividends because of exactly what you mentioned. When the dot-bust happened and stock prices weren't going anywhere, but they had 70 or 80 billion in cash on hand, investors were screaming for dividends. So it was big news when Microsoft suddenly started offering a dividend. Yield is 3 percent, presently. Nothing to write home about.
As for Apple Growth, there is the other 85/90 percent of the desktop market to grow into, and they seem to be doing a good job. They've done a spectacular job on the mobile market, and between Android and iOS, Microsoft will continue to be frozen out, which is why the lawsuit stupidity and blackmailing of Android vendors (GO B&N!)
I've said it before, many times. Microsoft is the IBM of the 80s and their lunch can be eaten by more agile companies. Apple is one of them.
Yield is 3 percent, being generous, and this is nothing when considering the growth of other companies in the same sector - I get modded down for pointing this out.
Stock price is down and flat, especially considering other companies in the same sector. - I get modded down for pointing this out.
There is no sign of this changing any time soon. Windows 8 is the biggest news, and it makes everyone who is not a fanboy yawn, at best - I get modded down for pointing this out.
Yet none of the above is false. So much butthur at the truth. Don't blame me, guys, look at your god, Ballmer, the guy who is only there because of the amount of voting stock he owns. Welcome to the same doldrums that befell Apple in the 90s. Unless something serious happens, the best you can hope for is that the wind does not go completely out of the sails leaving Microsoft adrift in a Sargasso of status-quo or sinking from shipworm.
Break up Microsoft. It needs it. The profit sucking divisions need to sink or swim on their own. The company also needs to make things that people actually want, rather than view Microsoft products as "necessary evils." Apple has been doing it the right way. Microsoft, not so much.
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>The only way to filter for your employees is white-listing.
Sorry, but no. That is insane, because if you are in a company that does worldwide business, whitelisting, which is entirely in-house, becomes unwieldy. It cheaper (in terms of real cost) and more efficient (in terms of resources) to simply subscribe to Bluecoat or some other filter company that does the job for you.
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>I think I nailed where we failed at doing the right thing with TLD's and should go back and fix that for the future. If it ends up that .com and .org end up as basically indistinguishable that's one mistake we can live with, if all of the other possible TLD's have that problem then they really are meaningless, and we should rapidly move to prevent that.
Too late. The time to keep all the ducks in a row has passed and to Joe and Josephine User, it matters not, because nobody ever bothered to explain to them why TLDs were created. That ship has sailed. That can of worms has been opened. That spaghetti cannot be untangled.
See the other user's comment in this thread about the .me domain and not even knowing that it stood for Montenegro.
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>Seriously, Give me a tool to filter out unwanted site reliable.
Just being lazy and checking Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content-control_software
Windows applications
Cyclope-Series (proprietary)
Green Dam Youth Escort (Mainland Chinese Government mandated software)
K9 Web Protection (proprietary, free for home use)
Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway (proprietary)
NetNanny (proprietary)
SurfWatch (proprietary)
SafeSquid (proprietary, free for up to 3 users)
Windows Live Family Safety (proprietary, free)
Secure Web SmartFilter EDU, formerly known as Bess
FB Limiter (free, paid upgrade available)
[edit]
Mac applications
K9 Web Protection (proprietary, free for home use)
SurfWatch (proprietary, free for home use)
[edit]
Hardware solutions
Lightspeed Systems (hosted or hardware, for mobile or desktop)
[edit]
Web browser
[edit]
Internet Explorer
Content Advisor (After IE 6)
[edit]
Other
CleanFeed (ISP based)
ClearOS (unix/linux and ISP based)
DansGuardian (unix/linux and ISP based)
DynDNS (DNS based, with a free plan)
Mobicip (cloud-based)
OnlineFamily.Norton (cloud-based)
OpenDNS (DNS/ISP based, free for Families and Non-commercial users)
SafeSquid (unix/linux and ISP based)
Scieno Sitter (system unknown: used exclusively by Church of Scientology members under an NDA)
SmartWeb (Parental Control for Apple iPhone and iPod Touch platforms)
Websense (system unknown: notable for use by China, Yemen, and US Governments)
>CDD
I don't see how the Christ botherers are upset about Sharia Law. The Wahabbists and Dominionists want the same exact things.
I first discovered CDD from shortwave frequency preachers back in the mid 80s and it is frightening. You go to the front page of the CDD movement on the web and it seems... "okay not so bad" but then you listen to actual preachers and enthusiasts and it's like something out of the 14'th century.
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Free is infinitely less expensive than $2/year. We're talking about squatters here, who "buy" domains in the thousands without spending a penny every 4.9 days.
Domain kiting is like domain tasting, but ICANN and the other TLDs have appended a 20 cent fee to each domain taste so the "domain taste millions of names" has shrunken to a trickle.
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When you set your Google search preferences you will want to search in languages you understand.
That has absolutely nothing to do with TLDs.
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>1. 99.9% of humans past the age of 13 have sexual urges.
-While I am sure the percentage is high you have only skewed this to your own ends.
Without sexual urges the human race would have ceased to exist. Lack of sexual urge has been mostly bred out and is seen as "not normal" by most people skilled in the sciences of biology and psychology, usually attributed to hormone imbalance and depression. He has not skewed the data. You have ignored the data all around you.
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.com and .org at one point were supposed to mean different things potentially.
You just nailed why TLDs no longer matter. It doesn't matter any more what you or I thought TLDs are supposed to mean. They mean nothing now. They are placeholders. You are lucky if a country code TLD actually matches where the website actually originates from or is targeted to.
Which is why you should pay attention more to what it says on the front page than it says in the TLD.
someone wasn't smart enough to do paperwork for the correct country and we had to do it over
So the "Her Majesty's Government of Australia" on the top of the page did not differentiate from "Her Majesty's Government of Northern Ireland?" I don't know about you, but I find governments to be pretty possessive about their names and make sure they're plastered all over every web page, print publication, video, film, etc.
>gov meaning explicitly US government is bad.
I agree, and it's an argument why TLDs should be done away with. We should have country codes at most.
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Who defines what is porn?
This.
We have Hasidic Jews in NYC that are upset at bicyclists going through their neighborhood on a Saturday wearing shorts and teeshirts. Especially if they are women.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/hipsters-hasidic-jews-fig_n_384579.html
And that's just the US. I just read a story about how women in Saudi Arabia, that if they have "sexy eyes" while otherwise clothed head-to-toe must also cover up their eyes, or face the beatings by the Religious Police.
http://jezebel.com/5860660/helpful-saudi-arabian-committee-suggests-women-cover-their-sexy-eyes
People don't tell control freaks and prudes to fuck-off nearly as much as they need to.
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but a good price to deter squatters and bulk buyer speculators.
Who says you have to buy a damn thing?
domain kiting, v., the act of registering a domain, deleting it before the 5 days grace period is up, and reregistering it. Wash, rinse, repeat.
200 bux is extortion.
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I mean .xxx does in some sense acknowledge that people market pron.
When is the last time you paid attention to a TLD? When is the last time *anyone* paid attention to a TLD?
It also should make it MUCH easier for people who want to avoid seeing pron to not be spammed by it.
You are suggesting that all the porn providers would magically all move over to the .xxx domain by themselves, for your convenience. Gosh, you're naive and lazy.
And if you are being spammed by porn, I suggest you examine exactly which websites you are going to. I only get porn spam by visiting, you know, porn sites.
Is it censorship to not look at things I don't want to and now allow them to be seen by people using equipment I have authority over?
English, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Let me try to parse that....
Oh yeah, you can subscribe to one of the many filtering companies out there like Websense and Bluecoat. You can even set your DNS to use the filtering at OpenDNS, which is free (well, they take your demographics and such). There is no shortage of companies that will help you shield your eyes, should you want it. The fact that you are offended by stuff you see says 2 things about you: that you are thin skinned and lazy.
It seems to me .xxx meets a legitimate content labeling goal that can make everyone's life easier because we all understand what kind of 'information' should be labeled in that way and can act appropriately.
Go be a nanny somewhere else.
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As a former retail drone, I must confirm this as the case 25 years ago.
We had the candy room and the car stereo room.
The car stereo room for obvious reasons, and the candy room for the reason that it's all too easy to just cruise on by and grab something yummy and not even write it in the shrinkage book - keep honest people honest.
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BMO
You seem to be fascinated by me.
Thanks.
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This is late but...
Everyone in my family, and extended family, has had at least one rescue animal at some point. They tend to be better pets. I have never had a purebred cat, ever. My best cat was a rescue Heinz-57 breed barn-cat that kept the varmint population superbly in check, bless her little violent little heart.
The PARL is a billion times better than anything I've seen from PETA. They actually do fostering and placement.
Get stuffed.
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I think I may have lost track.
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Slashdot requires you to wait longer between hitting 'reply' and submitting a comment.
It's been 17 seconds since you hit 'reply'.
Of my second comment, I got moderated flamebait because someone couldn't differentiate between growth and dividends, when I clearly said growth in my beginning post. From then on, the war was on.
So I'm a bit impolite. When I have mod points, if I modded down every impolite post I saw, I would never mod anything up. On another note, I find that sprinkling 40 percent down-mods in with up-mods gets you more moderation points on a regular basis rather than following the FAQ and rarely down-modding. I don't like doing that. I like the idea of modding-up insightful posts and only down-modding the obvious offensive trolls instead of trying to hit a percentage to get more mod points.
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>serious tangent
At least with Linux, you can change the interface easily.
And seriously, KDE is spectacular now. 4.7.3 is exceptionally pleasing once you take 10 minutes to degoober some of the defaults.
(close button on left, minimize and maximize/restore buttons on right, as God and IBM intended)
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>you are being modded down for saying stupid things like companies should be broken up
i have been saying this for 10 years. They should be broken up. They are a large, fat, and slow company. If the DOJ had its way, every Microsoft investor would have been much happier by now because a healthier company would have emerged out of the behemoth that uses its profitable divisions to shore up its money losing divisions. It even got to the point where Microsoft no longer differentiates between divisions on their 10K anymore, because it's shameful.
Seriously.
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>modded flamebait for pointing out that the definition of growth (you know, market cap and stock price) is not the same definition of dividends (a portion of the profits, whether growth happens or not).
Stay classy, Softies.
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But how does owning the vast majority of desktops translate into growth? If one owns 90 percent of a particular market, you're not going to grow any faster than the overall market. Ergo, Microsoft, whose eggs are nearly /all/ in the OS and Desktop Application (Microsoft Office) basket isn't growing anywhere, especially in this economy.
It's funny watching you guys redirect, dodge and weave and generally avoid the main issue at hand, that is Microsoft's inability to find other places to grow.
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The Microsoft of the 80s and 90s is not the same as the Microsoft of the 'aughts.
The Apple of the 80s and 90s is not the same as the Apple of the 'aughts.
In fact, the Apple of the 'aughts has more in common with the Microsoft of the 90s than the Microsoft of today. Apple is a growth company. Microsoft clearly isn't. If a 3 percent dividend yield from Microsoft doesn't tell you that, I don't know what can.
On the Y! finance boards, what you just did is called "chartin' the charts" and is a known logical fallacy. You need to ask Microsoft "what have you done for me lately and what are you going to do in the future?" Charts from 3 decades ago tell you nothing. How about you get into the current century?
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I'll go with this.
Except...
Gates /has/ been selling his stock. It's been one of his stated goals to not leave billions to his kids, that they need to make their own way. This is respectable.
Ballmer, OTOH, is not going anywhere. He has no such outlook. His shares are his, and he's not giving up being Head Cheese without a fight.
Also, Microsoft only started giving out dividends because of exactly what you mentioned. When the dot-bust happened and stock prices weren't going anywhere, but they had 70 or 80 billion in cash on hand, investors were screaming for dividends. So it was big news when Microsoft suddenly started offering a dividend. Yield is 3 percent, presently. Nothing to write home about.
As for Apple Growth, there is the other 85/90 percent of the desktop market to grow into, and they seem to be doing a good job. They've done a spectacular job on the mobile market, and between Android and iOS, Microsoft will continue to be frozen out, which is why the lawsuit stupidity and blackmailing of Android vendors (GO B&N!)
I've said it before, many times. Microsoft is the IBM of the 80s and their lunch can be eaten by more agile companies. Apple is one of them.
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>get proven wrong
>tell me I need to get laid.
You're stupid.
I'm smarter than you.
Deal with it.
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Yield is 3 percent, being generous, and this is nothing when considering the growth of other companies in the same sector - I get modded down for pointing this out.
Stock price is down and flat, especially considering other companies in the same sector. - I get modded down for pointing this out.
There is no sign of this changing any time soon. Windows 8 is the biggest news, and it makes everyone who is not a fanboy yawn, at best - I get modded down for pointing this out.
Yet none of the above is false. So much butthur at the truth. Don't blame me, guys, look at your god, Ballmer, the guy who is only there because of the amount of voting stock he owns. Welcome to the same doldrums that befell Apple in the 90s. Unless something serious happens, the best you can hope for is that the wind does not go completely out of the sails leaving Microsoft adrift in a Sargasso of status-quo or sinking from shipworm.
Break up Microsoft. It needs it. The profit sucking divisions need to sink or swim on their own. The company also needs to make things that people actually want, rather than view Microsoft products as "necessary evils." Apple has been doing it the right way. Microsoft, not so much.
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>1988 to 1998
Oh look the years that the company was left to colored sugar-water salesmen and bean counters. Not the dynamic and growing company it is now.
Yes, and if I had been born in an earlier decade, I could have bought IBM when there was a market of "four to five computers"
Moron.
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