I disagree with the statement. I think it is re-implementing current standards in simplistic ways. Before, the server side nastiness and the obsoleted model of dowloading the whole spanking application with the whole spanking dataset again for each subtle change is just plan dumb.
Some of the brightest were doing some AJAX-like concepts before, but most were doing the nasty with hackery of NS4/IE4 era of incompatible non-sense combined with sludge of *insert your favorite server side code here*. Others just moved off of HTML/XHTML altogether go to Flash, which itself has been promoting AJAX-like functionality through it's JavaScript-like language ActionScript.
You point is a really good point for XHTML 1.0. However, the discussion is about XHTML 2.0, which has I think 5 different languages. Both Opera and Apple stated they will not support XHTML 2.0 in it's current form.
webstandards (CSS2, DOM2, XHTML1) barely work amongst all browsers (Konquerer/Safari being the buggiest), and without intuitive tools that support the standards, no one really cares. GoLive and Dreamweaver are started to get with the program, and tools like freeway by softpress are nice. But for other stuff like SVG, there's nothing comparable for Flash. So SVG is mainly in the realm of the geeks.
Now, as for newer standards like XHTML2, W3C is in outer space. There's no browser going to touch it with a stick. Got to be a rocket scientist to use it, and where are the tools for non-geeky designers? Where's the browsers to do it? *pauses*.... *silence*...
Yep. That's what I thought.
I hope designers get off the table design with spacer.gifs littered everywhere and just pretend Netscape 4 and IE 4 don't exist. In fact, Netscape as a browser doesn't exist, as after AOL got bling bling from MS, the whole Netscape team (sans the portal people) got pink slips. C'est la vie Netscape.
So where does this stand with Microsoft. Well, now they are starting to get it. But for Microsoft customers to get it, they need to dish out the dinero.
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I really love Star Wars, and I would have love to get involved with this game, but....
However, it is SoE, and I have heard so many venemous compliants about SoE, so I won't go near any game they manage (or mis-manage).
I am also quite satisfied with WoW now, and have numerous friends and resources, and a good feeling within the community.
I disagree with the statement. I think it is re-implementing current standards in simplistic ways. Before, the server side nastiness and the obsoleted model of dowloading the whole spanking application with the whole spanking dataset again for each subtle change is just plan dumb.
Some of the brightest were doing some AJAX-like concepts before, but most were doing the nasty with hackery of NS4/IE4 era of incompatible non-sense combined with sludge of *insert your favorite server side code here*. Others just moved off of HTML/XHTML altogether go to Flash, which itself has been promoting AJAX-like functionality through it's JavaScript-like language ActionScript.
You point is a really good point for XHTML 1.0. However, the discussion is about XHTML 2.0, which has I think 5 different languages. Both Opera and Apple stated they will not support XHTML 2.0 in it's current form.
Konqueror (and Safari) are bugalicious.
Though their code base nice and well structured, so hopefully it gets better.
webstandards (CSS2, DOM2, XHTML1) barely work amongst all browsers (Konquerer/Safari being the buggiest), and without intuitive tools that support the standards, no one really cares. GoLive and Dreamweaver are started to get with the program, and tools like freeway by softpress are nice. But for other stuff like SVG, there's nothing comparable for Flash. So SVG is mainly in the realm of the geeks.
.... *silence* ...
Now, as for newer standards like XHTML2, W3C is in outer space. There's no browser going to touch it with a stick. Got to be a rocket scientist to use it, and where are the tools for non-geeky designers? Where's the browsers to do it? *pauses*
Yep. That's what I thought.
I hope designers get off the table design with spacer.gifs littered everywhere and just pretend Netscape 4 and IE 4 don't exist. In fact, Netscape as a browser doesn't exist, as after AOL got bling bling from MS, the whole Netscape team (sans the portal people) got pink slips. C'est la vie Netscape.
So where does this stand with Microsoft. Well, now they are starting to get it. But for Microsoft customers to get it, they need to dish out the dinero.