DISCLAIMER: I thought of this last night after beer#4.
How about an 'Angel of Death'/'Angel of Mercy' catagory(well, with all this talk of karma and such, the name shouldn't be too outlandish). Make it very, very hard to attain. Like, 100 karma points. Anyway, give these 'Angels' the power to moderate up or down at will, and to M2 if needed. Also, they could act as intermediaries(sp?) between Rob and the rest of the readership. Post unfairly moderated? Tell an Angel. Angel not responsive? Then go to Rob. This lets Rob get back to the really important things, like working on Slash 0.4 and surfing Jennicam. B-)
Reasoning: Anyone with 100+ karma points will obviously be an avid reader and veteran moderator. Their posts will be consistantly on-topic and informative. And, most importantly, these people will have a deep understanding of the workings of/., and more than likely be able to be very impartial.
Pros: A group of the/. readership with the ability to help keep the peace. No cries of censorship, less work for Rob, and a way for the creme de la creme to give back to the community (/., not OS) in a truly meaningful way.
Cons: Obviuos ease of abuse. Possible political agendas. Maybe too much power over a readership that revolts at the thought of having decisions made for them.
Still, I think it's a pretty good idea. And if you think I'm in it because I hope to be one, well, check my User Info page and phear my zero points of karma.
Up until now, I haven't had a desire to moderate. (the checkbox on my preferences page was always unchecked) However, in light of recent events and the hard work Rob's put into it, I have decided to give it a try. I feel that the moderation scheme is being refined to the point of perfection, and if I can help give back to this forum, I will.
I just read the Bucket Proposal(tm) and found it absolutly hilarious.
Here's a few of the points for those not wishing to go to the site...
a. Stability. Buckets would meet performance criteria that would ensure that the buckets were sufficiently unstable that if a child were to fall into one of them, the bucket would tip over. The buckets would have to tip over if subjected separately to specified horizontal and vertical forces.
Great. A bucket that's always falling over. Useful, eh?
c. Liquid retention. Buckets could be constructed so that they cannot retain liquid. (They still could be used to ship solid materials in a liner.)
Uhhh...what??? A bucket that cannot hold liquid? Isn't that currently known as a 'box'?
Anyway, this is the kind of thinking that's kept me fairly apolitical for that last eight years. I for one believe that it's time for Tom Clancy's Debt of Honor scenario to happen.
I've been able to log in just fine. However, I have run into not being able to log in *at all*. One of Rob's passwd scripts or something. Anyway, I had to create another account...
...this sort of thing is likely to continue in this day and age of mega-mergers. AT&T did the Right Thing(tm) and I'm pleasantly impressed. I guess it is possible for a 600 pound gorilla to handle a situation intelligently...
Sorry, It's kind of a personal thing to me. Where I work, there are a few hackers. There are several 5kR1pT K1dd135. That's why I tend to be on the adamant side about it.
"Fact is they probably never carried a M-16 in defense of the country"
So I assume you have??
"I guess they use all the dirty words since their pinheads are so small & only so many words will fit, and you know 4 letter words are smaller, so more of them fit in their pinhead.
Hrmmm, I thought only the dirty Libertarians stereotyped like that.:p
"While it is true Police do accasionally abuse thier power, they also have the discretion not to give you a ticket when they pull you over.
Unless, of course, you have long hair ('drug-using hippie'), are black ('one of them dirty niggers again'), hispanic ('hey, my uncle needs someone to help him pour concrete'), female ('get in my car, honey'), or the cop is having a bad day. (No offense is meant to anyone. Merely siting examples) Now, where I am, this is Texas, boy! Where you better drive a pickup and go to the local church. With the knowledge that almost every law-enforcement official that I have ever run into or heard about (with two notable exceptions) is fairly racist/sexist/megalomaniacal, tell me why I should trust them?
But no, in the defense of a minority of criminals rights, we should tie up the hands of law enforcement?"
No, in the defense of the majority of the general populace's rights. The point here is not to tie the hands of law-enforcement. The point is that you are Innocent Until Proven Guilty (tm) and afforded the Right to Due Process (tm). If law enforcement, as a whole, is allowed to snoop on my HDD without my knowledge or consent, then both of those rights have been stripped from me.
"They had no idea of nukes, bio bugs, gas, drug dealers or terrorist's; but if they had I feel that they would have thought there were circumstances where the rights of the individuals stopped, and the rights of the society (or humanity) started."
Glad to see that you can read the minds of men dead nigh on 200 years. Amazing talent, that. Now as for what you said: bio bugs Hrmmm...Not like they couldn't use the Plague. It's possible. drug dealers Outlaws, banditos, arms suppliers, opium suppliers, etc. Course, opium wasn't illegal back then and everyone was expected to own a gun. terrorist's (sic) Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the Boston Tea Party be considered a terrorist act? Question: without the rights of the indidvidual, what good are the rights of the group?
"They are to a man honest."
You must not live in The South (tm), boy.
"It will be interesting to find out how many opinheads can't respond intellegently to this comment... "
And what of those who respond intelligently?
"Oh, and the next time you have a break_in, or need help; don't call the Police (who you don't trust) call a libertarian."
No, the next time I have a break in, I'll shoot the bastard where he stands. (that is my right, remember.)
Odd; I haven't yet refered to Thomas or Ben. Go figure.
"While I don't know what you mean by 'truely poor'..."
-Eating twice a week (yes, week) -Wondering if you will have to move under the bridge next month for lack of rent money -parents and child going without
"Suppose Christianity is not a religion but a way of life, a falling in love with God, and, through Him, a falling in love with our fellows. Of course, such a way is hard and costly, but it is also joyous and rewarding even in the here-and-now."
I thought that's what Sufism(sp?) is all about. The concept is to love God and your fellow man with a passion that will consume the soul...without the "hard and costly" way that you speak of.
Of course, this religion has it's faults, as does anything concieved by Man to serve a 'perfect' Goddess.
People who don't eat eggs or drink milk or, for that matter, consume anything that came from an animal (a loose and subjective distinction at best) are known as vegans. Vegetarians, for the most part, simply do not eat meat. Again, a subjective definition, but one worth making...
"What's powering these suckers, if they take days to go anywhere? Either one of several unlikely broadcast power schemes is being used, or they're tethered, or they can't go more than a few tens of metres before their batteries run out."
Here's a thought, at least for a plant that contains massive amounts of wire:
(NOTE: IANAE)
What's to stop these guys from sapping small amounts of power directly from the wires themselves? Use the small amount of juice to run around or to charge batteries?
'One-time cypher pads'. Truly unbreakable...if used properly. The biggest problem is that it's difficult to get the other pad to the other person without intercept. The idea of a burned CD is good, but can you guarantee to me 100% that the CD has not been compromised? Other than that, the only other limiting factor is quantity. If you make 100 transmissions, then you need 100 sets of two identical CDs. The logistics become hell after a while. Oh-well...
"Bottom line: Why should I trust a govt that doesn't trust me?"
Does this comment come from an anti-German sentiment? Or fear of history repeating itself? I noticed that 'German' is not capitalized. Is there a reason for that?
Closet racism, maybe?
And, how is this like 1938? What happened in Germany in 1938? A lot of land-grabbing, IIRC. Are you comparing people who use Microsoft products to the Jews? Or are you comparing Microsoft to Jewish business during that time?
Or, is this simply sarcasm?
I obviously cannot tell. So, please explain yourself, Coward^H^H^H^H^H^Hcoward.
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Here's a thought along those lines.
/., and more than likely be able to be very impartial.
/. readership with the ability to help keep the peace. No cries of censorship, less work for Rob, and a way for the creme de la creme to give back to the community (/., not OS) in a truly meaningful way.
DISCLAIMER: I thought of this last night after beer#4.
How about an 'Angel of Death'/'Angel of Mercy' catagory(well, with all this talk of karma and such, the name shouldn't be too outlandish). Make it very, very hard to attain. Like, 100 karma points. Anyway, give these 'Angels' the power to moderate up or down at will, and to M2 if needed. Also, they could act as intermediaries(sp?) between Rob and the rest of the readership. Post unfairly moderated? Tell an Angel. Angel not responsive? Then go to Rob. This lets Rob get back to the really important things, like working on Slash 0.4 and surfing Jennicam. B-)
Reasoning: Anyone with 100+ karma points will obviously be an avid reader and veteran moderator. Their posts will be consistantly on-topic and informative. And, most importantly, these people will have a deep understanding of the workings of
Pros: A group of the
Cons: Obviuos ease of abuse. Possible political agendas. Maybe too much power over a readership that revolts at the thought of having decisions made for them.
Still, I think it's a pretty good idea. And if you think I'm in it because I hope to be one, well, check my User Info page and phear my zero points of karma.
Up until now, I haven't had a desire to moderate. (the checkbox on my preferences page was always unchecked) However, in light of recent events and the hard work Rob's put into it, I have decided to give it a try. I feel that the moderation scheme is being refined to the point of perfection, and if I can help give back to this forum, I will.
Thanks, again, Rob.
Danka
I just read the Bucket Proposal(tm) and found it absolutly hilarious.
Here's a few of the points for those not wishing to go to the site...
a. Stability. Buckets would meet performance criteria that would
ensure that the buckets were sufficiently unstable that if a child were to fall into one of them, the bucket would tip over. The buckets would have to tip over if subjected separately to specified horizontal and vertical forces.
Great. A bucket that's always falling over. Useful, eh?
c. Liquid retention. Buckets could be constructed so that they
cannot retain liquid. (They still could be used to ship solid materials in a liner.)
Uhhh...what??? A bucket that cannot hold liquid? Isn't that currently known as a 'box'?
Anyway, this is the kind of thinking that's kept me fairly apolitical for that last eight years. I for one believe that it's time for Tom Clancy's Debt of Honor scenario to happen.
godwin's law?
Please enlighten...
...They're Grrrrrrrrrrreat!
Brought to you by Tony the Tiger.
"As long as you didn't use a Toyota Tercel or an 84 Honda Accord."
How about an '89 Honda CRX? Plenty of room in the back to hold all the equipment...
Hrmmmm.....
<goes back to drawing board>
I've been able to log in just fine. However, I have run into not being able to log in *at all*. One of Rob's passwd scripts or something. Anyway, I had to create another account...
"Kind of like the line the state govt. fed us about the lottery. The money will help the schools!"
Hrmmm...you must live in Texas...
It's informative!
well, if you don't, then here are the links...
German Space Operstions Centre's
and
A reminder if you enter your coordinates manually and are in North America: longitude should be negative
...this sort of thing is likely to continue in this day and age of mega-mergers. AT&T did the Right Thing(tm) and I'm pleasantly impressed. I guess it is possible for a 600 pound gorilla to handle a situation intelligently...
Sorry, It's kind of a personal thing to me. Where I work, there are a few hackers. There are several 5kR1pT K1dd135. That's why I tend to be on the adamant side about it.
"Fact is they probably never carried a M-16 in defense of the country"
:p
So I assume you have??
"I guess they use all the dirty words since their pinheads are so small & only so many words will fit, and you know 4 letter words are smaller, so more of them fit in their pinhead.
Hrmmm, I thought only the dirty Libertarians stereotyped like that.
"While it is true Police do accasionally abuse thier power, they also have the discretion not to give you a ticket when they pull you over.
Unless, of course, you have long hair ('drug-using hippie'), are black ('one of them dirty niggers again'), hispanic ('hey, my uncle needs someone to help him pour concrete'), female ('get in my car, honey'), or the cop is having a bad day. (No offense is meant to anyone. Merely siting examples) Now, where I am, this is Texas, boy! Where you better drive a pickup and go to the local church. With the knowledge that almost every law-enforcement official that I have ever run into or heard about (with two notable exceptions) is fairly racist/sexist/megalomaniacal, tell me why I should trust them?
But no, in the defense of a minority of criminals rights, we should tie up the hands of law enforcement?"
No, in the defense of the majority of the general populace's rights. The point here is not to tie the hands of law-enforcement. The point is that you are Innocent Until Proven Guilty (tm) and afforded the Right to Due Process (tm). If law enforcement, as a whole, is allowed to snoop on my HDD without my knowledge or consent, then both of those rights have been stripped from me.
"They had no idea of nukes, bio bugs, gas, drug dealers or terrorist's; but if they had I feel that they would have thought there were circumstances where the rights of the individuals stopped, and the rights of the society (or humanity) started."
Glad to see that you can read the minds of men dead nigh on 200 years. Amazing talent, that.
Now as for what you said:
bio bugs
Hrmmm...Not like they couldn't use the Plague. It's possible.
drug dealers
Outlaws, banditos, arms suppliers, opium suppliers, etc. Course, opium wasn't illegal back then and everyone was expected to own a gun.
terrorist's (sic)
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't the Boston Tea Party be considered a terrorist act?
Question: without the rights of the indidvidual, what good are the rights of the group?
"They are to a man honest."
You must not live in The South (tm), boy.
"It will be interesting to find out how many opinheads can't respond intellegently to this comment... "
And what of those who respond intelligently?
"Oh, and the next time you have a break_in, or need help; don't call the Police (who you don't trust) call a libertarian."
No, the next time I have a break in, I'll shoot the bastard where he stands. (that is my right , remember.)
Odd; I haven't yet refered to Thomas or Ben. Go figure.
"I don't think I mind them breaking into a hacker's box"
CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER, CRACKER!!!!!
Sorry, kids. I won't let this one die. Moderate it down, or whatever, but damnit!
"A little revolution every now and again is good for the country"
-- Ben Franklin
Better still, the Preferences page states that Slashbox problems go to CowboyNeal.
"While I don't know what you mean by 'truely poor'..."
-Eating twice a week (yes, week)
-Wondering if you will have to move under the bridge next month for lack of rent money
-parents and child going without
and so on and so forth
"Suppose Christianity is not a religion but a way of life, a falling in love with God, and, through Him, a falling in love with our fellows. Of course, such a way is hard and costly, but it is also joyous and rewarding even in the here-and-now."
I thought that's what Sufism(sp?) is all about. The concept is to love God and your fellow man with a passion that will consume the soul...without the "hard and costly" way that you speak of.
Of course, this religion has it's faults, as does anything concieved by Man to serve a 'perfect' Goddess.
People who don't eat eggs or drink milk or, for that matter, consume anything that came from an animal (a loose and subjective distinction at best) are known as vegans. Vegetarians, for the most part, simply do not eat meat. Again, a subjective definition, but one worth making...
Segfault???
"What's powering these suckers, if they take days to go anywhere? Either one of several unlikely broadcast power schemes is being used, or they're tethered, or they can't go more than a few tens of metres before their batteries run out."
Here's a thought, at least for a plant that contains massive amounts of wire:
(NOTE: IANAE)
What's to stop these guys from sapping small amounts of power directly from the wires themselves? Use the small amount of juice to run around or to charge batteries?
Just a thought...
...its here.
'One-time cypher pads'. Truly unbreakable...if used properly. The biggest problem is that it's difficult to get the other pad to the other person without intercept. The idea of a burned CD is good, but can you guarantee to me 100% that the CD has not been compromised? Other than that, the only other limiting factor is quantity. If you make 100 transmissions, then you need 100 sets of two identical CDs. The logistics become hell after a while. Oh-well...
"Bottom line: Why should I trust a govt that doesn't trust me?"
Agreed.
Does this comment come from an anti-German sentiment? Or fear of history repeating itself? I noticed that 'German' is not capitalized. Is there a reason for that?
Closet racism, maybe?
And, how is this like 1938? What happened in Germany in 1938? A lot of land-grabbing, IIRC.
Are you comparing people who use Microsoft products to the Jews? Or are you comparing Microsoft to Jewish business during that time?
Or, is this simply sarcasm?
I obviously cannot tell. So, please explain yourself, Coward^H^H^H^H^H^Hcoward.
Amen. TV is a waste of time. I mean, you stare at a screen enough in one day. Why burn your eyes completely out?