That's the way things are supposed work in a free market economy!
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Not true. A free market economy needs controls to ensure fair competition and a level playing field. Just like boxing has established rules to ensure a fair fight. Tyson violated one of those rules and I didn't see anybody saying "hey let the guy be - he is just trying to be successful".
There are rules in conducting business. For instance, price fixing can be very successful, however, its illegal and an abuse of power.
You cannot restrict your competitions ability to get to the market unfairly like MS has done with computer OEM's. You are suppose to compete on price, features and quality.
MS has used the free market system to get their products at the top
MS abused the free market to get on top and stay there. That is the point. This is like defending the Mafia by saying they are using free market to make a living.
Thats it, remove all the checks and balances, place a premium on deceit and ruthless tatics. A place where the entrenched remain entrenched.
Heck, why waste time and money "establishing a government" at all? laws, bah! Might is right and size is everything. Any challangers will be destroyed and not allowed a foot hold.
MS has choosen in several well documented cases not to compete but to bully and conspire.
A successful free market (ie one that generate the most wealth for the majority of it members) requires fair competition.
Consummers have been harmed by MS dominance. 5 years ago the cost of a well equiped PC cost around $ 2500 and the O/S cost was around $100 ($80 for OS/2 if you remember). Today a well equiped PC costs around $ 1200 and a copy of MS Win98 cost close to $200. The price of computing is indeed coming down but not software especially in area where MS dominates (O/S, Office, Presentation, etc.) Just a thought.
So we should let a monopoly exist so that some people will hate this monopoly and provide motivatation for these people to "fuel" innovations.
Or we should let a monopoly run rough shod over any competitor so as to bring stability and uniformity into the technology field.
Great logic. Why don't we just appoint a leading industry to control and dominate every segment of our society and the we can set back reap the benefits.
Grap a history book and try to understand the need for anti-trust controls in a competive free market economy.
Once M$ "owns" the desktop they will be able to easly leavage that position to take over the server market through the use of compelling extensions that only work with a IE and IIS combination.
"Look, if you get confused by C's string handling, then, yep, Perl is for you. But *IF* you can handle the power, 'C' is for you!"
This is funny. C provide a small basic set of string manipulation facilities. If you do any work with strings in C you tend to develop a set of personal string library functions.
Perl is for people who know when to select the right tool for the job.
We just finished writting a 3.5k line data acquisition system using Perl / CGI.pm / Apache / GNUplot for the Navy. The system acquired over 80 channels of temperature data over a RS-485 bus and allowed operators to monitor, display and archive data via a web interface. Writing this software in C++ or Java would have taken several times longer to deploy. For this application Perl was an excellent choice.
As someone mentioned above language choice is irrelevent to software quality.
I am a professional web developer too and we do all our work in Perl/MySQL/etc. . I love going head-to-head with competitors suggesting ASP, Cold Fusion, Java servlets, yada yada yada. We blow them out of the water on price, features, and low maintenance costs. Now folks who do work in PHP can cause a few problems. Depends on the nature of the job.
So if we do not allocate support based on opinion then how would support be allocated.
Suppose I have developed a artistic technic where I ingest paint and then vomit it up (along with my lunch) skillfully on canvas. I now declare my art as challenging and apply for support. If you think that my art is disgusting and in fact the majority of people think my art is disgusting, tough.
The Brooklyn Museum of Art faces the loss of a third of its annual budget, even eviction, because the mayor of New York City finds a painting in an exhibit offensive.
My take on the Mayor's action is that he does not believe that the painting in question serves the public interest. The exhibit of the "art work" is being underwriten with public funds and he does not feel that it is an appropiate expenditure of his budget. He is an elected offical. If people do not approve his actions he will not be re-elected.
The Mayor has no qualms whatsoever for the painting to be displayed in a private museum and has he has stated so.
Furthermore, I wonder what the reaction would have been if the subject was Martin Luther King or Gandi ? It would have been labeled as racist or mean-spirited trash - which is exactly what it is.
Look if anyone want to be a "ground breaking" artist these days - forget talent and skill - just select some popular religous icon, mix it up with several bodily fluids from various orgins, include some sexual context and you have a masterpiece ! The art critics will rave over your genius.
IMHO Perl increases productivity several fold by not having to worry about things that a computer should take of in the first place, such as allocating memory for an arrays, strings, etc. And in spite of this Perl is amazingly fast.
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Thats true. My wife has hot sauce shop and even though her breakage rate is low (~1:300) they hardly ever pay. They claim insufficient packaging.
MS has been able to increase the prices for their product while almost every other software manufactor is reducing prices.
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Also, for those who mistakenly believe MS has not harmed consummers check the link below
http://www.essential.org/antitrust/ms/cfa/cfa-j
That's the way things are supposed work in a free market economy!
Wee
Not true. A free market economy needs controls to ensure fair competition and a level playing field. Just like boxing has established rules to ensure a fair fight. Tyson violated one of those rules and I didn't see anybody saying "hey let the guy be - he is just trying to be successful".
There are rules in conducting business. For instance, price fixing can be very successful, however, its illegal and an abuse of power.
You cannot restrict your competitions ability to get to the market unfairly like MS has done with computer OEM's. You are suppose to compete on price, features and quality.
MS has used the free market system to get their products at the top
MS abused the free market to get on top and stay there. That is the point. This is like defending the Mafia by saying they are using free market to make a living.
or buy out.
They are both successful in their fields.
They have a history of being a bully.
They both go outside the bounds of law to be succussful.
One bit off an ear and the other bit off more then he could chew.
Thats it, remove all the checks and balances, place a premium on deceit and ruthless tatics. A place where the entrenched remain entrenched.
Heck, why waste time and money "establishing a government" at all? laws, bah! Might is right and size is everything. Any challangers will be destroyed and not allowed a foot hold.
MS has choosen in several well documented cases not to compete but to bully and conspire.
A successful free market (ie one that generate the most wealth for the majority of it members) requires fair competition.
Consummers have been harmed by MS dominance. 5 years ago the cost of a well equiped PC cost around $ 2500 and the O/S cost was around $100 ($80 for OS/2 if you remember). Today a well equiped PC costs around $ 1200 and a copy of MS Win98 cost close to $200. The price of computing is indeed coming down but not software especially in area where MS dominates (O/S, Office, Presentation, etc.) Just a thought.
What government are your referring to ?? I do know that the Navy uses MS products almost exclusively - by mandate.
hmmmm....
So we should let a monopoly exist so that some people will hate this monopoly and provide motivatation for these people to "fuel" innovations.
Or we should let a monopoly run rough shod over any competitor so as to bring stability and uniformity into the technology field.
Great logic. Why don't we just appoint a leading industry to control and dominate every segment of our society and the we can set back reap the benefits.
Grap a history book and try to understand the need for anti-trust controls in a competive free market economy.
Once M$ "owns" the desktop they will be able to easly leavage that position to take over the server market through the use of compelling extensions that only work with a IE and IIS combination.
It show by example - Why Perl.
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"Look, if you get confused by C's string handling, then, yep, Perl is for you. But *IF* you can handle the power, 'C' is for you!"
This is funny. C provide a small basic set of string manipulation facilities. If you do any work with strings in C you tend to develop a set of personal string library functions.
Perl is for people who know when to select the right tool for the job.
We just finished writting a 3.5k line data acquisition system using Perl / CGI.pm / Apache / GNUplot for the Navy. The system acquired over 80 channels of temperature data over a RS-485 bus and allowed operators to monitor, display and archive data via a web interface. Writing this software in C++ or Java would have taken several times longer to deploy. For this application Perl was an excellent choice.
As someone mentioned above language choice is irrelevent to software quality.
I am a professional web developer too and we do all our work in Perl/MySQL/etc. . I love going head-to-head with competitors suggesting ASP, Cold Fusion, Java servlets, yada yada yada. We blow them out of the water on price, features, and low maintenance costs. Now folks who do work in PHP can cause a few problems. Depends on the nature of the job.
So if we do not allocate support based on opinion then how would support be allocated.
Suppose I have developed a artistic technic where I ingest paint and then vomit it up (along with my lunch) skillfully on canvas. I now declare my art as challenging and apply for support. If you think that my art is disgusting and in fact the majority of people think my art is disgusting, tough.
The Brooklyn Museum of Art faces the loss of a third of its annual budget, even eviction, because the mayor of New York City finds a painting in an exhibit offensive.
My take on the Mayor's action is that he does not believe that the painting in question serves the public interest. The exhibit of the "art work" is being underwriten with public funds and he does not feel that it is an appropiate expenditure of his budget. He is an elected offical. If people do not approve his actions he will not be re-elected.
The Mayor has no qualms whatsoever for the painting to be displayed in a private museum and has he has stated so.
Furthermore, I wonder what the reaction would have been if the subject was Martin Luther King or Gandi ? It would have been labeled as racist or mean-spirited trash - which is exactly what it is.
Look if anyone want to be a "ground breaking" artist these days - forget talent and skill - just select some popular religous icon, mix it up with several bodily fluids from various orgins, include some sexual context and you have a masterpiece ! The art critics will rave over your genius.
Seriously I would pay good money for a Unix web browser that is comparible or superior to IE. If it is cross plateform (ie windows) all the better.
What... Perl is straight foward and simple IMHO. Underpowerful? You have obviously never worked in Perl my friend. State a few examples.
But very cool !
Interesting comments..
IMHO Perl increases productivity several fold by not having to worry about things that a computer should take of in the first place, such as allocating memory for an arrays, strings, etc. And in spite of this Perl is amazingly fast.