The headline is Mr. Taco's doing. The headline I submitted with the story was "Lousy e-mail filters add to the Sobig.F problem"
I guess squeezing in random mentioning of Microsoft products is a part of the Slashdot Editorial Policy -- just to make sure we lowly/. readers click the precious words "Read More".;-)
"In my opinion if you can't write good code you can't appreciate good code."
The Prix Ars Electronica award had nothing to do with code! It was about art. It was about social movement, and philosophy. It was about how a bunch of deep-thinking, smart and creative individuals (thousands of them) have set out and created something (what exactly isn't important here) realively original, and stirred up a lot of thought/emotions/attention. To such extent that our whole society is affected. Those involved in the making of creative works (of any kind) in the future will have to take the FS and OS philosophy into account. Facing up to history, just like they have to with Rodin, Picasso, Pollock, Warhol and all the others.
"But what does the average art lover see hanging there? Open Source as an Art Form? I think not."
And I say: If you don't know anything about art and art theory you can't appreciate, and comment on, good art. (This is of course somewhat arrogant, but so is the whole article. Ignorant and arrogant!)
Modern art is not just about objects. It's about ideas, creation, participation, performance, objects, and all sorts of other things. It's complex, and where they're gonna hang it just doesn't enter into it!
Open source has not been declared an art form. Just think about it... - The award was just given for something that has potentially affected art in a serious way.
Just deal with it guys. What you are making is affecting artistic and creative work all around you.
It is (probably) not art in itself, but it sure is affecting art. - It is probably going to have tremendous permanent effect on the art world as we know it!
So step down of your arrogant poles and take off your ignorant head-bags and smile, because you're doing something important, and you are being appreciated for it!
(P.S. I'm an not-so-humble art-student and I can tell you that at least my artistic philosophy has been greatly affected by the free-software and open-source ideology, and I think the Prix Ars Electronica for Linux was well deserved.)
Just look at this here discussion for instance. Bzztzpht! Noise!
I have my threshold set to 3+ (has worked fine until now) but today all I see (right away anyway) is some "low-quality" chit-chat between the selected few. a.k.a. the Slashdot Elite.
I don't care who's hip on the/. discussion forums, and who's not. I just want insightful and interesting comments on todays news. Personally I don't care who posted what.
I have a suggestion: Moderators should by default not be allowed to see who posted what. So that we don't have to trust them not to moderate up only their friends. Make the moderators person-blind and have some sort of setup to help them review only the newest postings on a thread. The system today only moderates the first few postings, and then the rest is left unread by the moderators, nomatter how insightful or otherwise interesting they may be... this sucks
I agree with the above stuff from Gordon and this other guy. They're probably the highest quality remarks I've seen in this whole discussion
Just look at this disscussion for instance. Never since the real moderation started has there been such a noisy discussion. This reminds me of the old and useless Slashdot
I have my threshold set to 3+ and todays top-"quality" postings are nothing but a low-quality chit-chat between the selected few. - The Slashdot Elite.
The essay offers a really nice plain-english introduction to the basic ideas and "virtues" of capitalist economic theory. This is good, but not to the point. I would have liked to see more bytes spent on the commercialization of OSS.
The author reguarly confuses the terms Free Software and Open-Source Software, and in some places seems not to realise the difference between free (of cost), and free(dom). This bothers me.
The essay barely touches some very important issues:
How will a payment policy be enforced? (This is currently a problem, and will be even harder to enforce when the source code is awailable.)
How will the monitary value of the software be determined?
Furthermore, the essay merely points out an alternative way to start an ordinary company/software-business, defying geographical borders and office walls. This may be good (and it may not?), but has really nothing to do with OSS or FS.
The author seems to trivialize/ignore/miss one of the main differences between the current "non-commercial" OSS and FS and the standard capitalism.
In capitalism, as he correctly points out, everything centers around how much the product is worth to the user, whereas in OSS/FS the actual cost-of-production is all that matters.
The beauty of the current OSS/FS gift-model is that it insures that no-one is ever forced to pay more than the actual production cost of the product. And since in most cases there is little or no direct monetary return, everyone involved has a direct incentive to minimize the cost of production, e.g. by re-using works of others, and sharing workload. (On the whole, this is the key benefit of the OSS and FS models, and IMO the basic idea behind the GPL. Once a problem has been solved, once a software has been written, no-one should be forced to solve/write it again.)
In this sense the OSS/FS gift-model causes more optimization (and benefit) for the whole society, than the standard commercial model does.
I would have liked to see the author spend more time trying to savour this difference, and ways to translate respect into "rock-hard currency".
Basically, cut away the bad steps to the good reply, and then show tem (as a reference) above the good message when the user asks for it. Messages receiving this treatment could be marked as such.
BTW, please show scores in the thread overview lists.
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The headline is Mr. Taco's doing. The headline I submitted with the story was "Lousy e-mail filters add to the Sobig.F problem"
I guess squeezing in random mentioning of Microsoft products is a part of the Slashdot Editorial Policy -- just to make sure we lowly /. readers click the precious words "Read More". ;-)
"In my opinion if you can't write good code you can't appreciate good code."
The Prix Ars Electronica award had nothing to do with code! It was about art. It was about social movement, and philosophy. It was about how a bunch of deep-thinking, smart and creative individuals (thousands of them) have set out and created something (what exactly isn't important here) realively original, and stirred up a lot of thought/emotions/attention. To such extent that our whole society is affected. Those involved in the making of creative works (of any kind) in the future will have to take the FS and OS philosophy into account. Facing up to history, just like they have to with Rodin, Picasso, Pollock, Warhol and all the others.
"But what does the average art lover see hanging there? Open Source as an Art Form? I think not."
And I say: If you don't know anything about art and art theory you can't appreciate, and comment on, good art. (This is of course somewhat arrogant, but so is the whole article. Ignorant and arrogant!)
Modern art is not just about objects. It's about ideas, creation, participation, performance, objects, and all sorts of other things. It's complex, and where they're gonna hang it just doesn't enter into it!
Open source has not been declared an art form. Just think about it... - The award was just given for something that has potentially affected art in a serious way.
Just deal with it guys. What you are making is affecting artistic and creative work all around you.
It is (probably) not art in itself, but it sure is affecting art. - It is probably going to have tremendous permanent effect on the art world as we know it!
So step down of your arrogant poles and take off your ignorant head-bags and smile, because you're doing something important, and you are being appreciated for it!
(P.S. I'm an not-so-humble art-student and I can tell you that at least my artistic philosophy has been greatly affected by the free-software and open-source ideology, and I think the Prix Ars Electronica for Linux was well deserved.)
There's nothing *simple* cultural provokation and sophmoric button-pushing.
To invent/create something that "we respond emotionally to" indeed takes (mental) skill and is an "ingenious, or elaborate trick."
Just try it your self!
Just look at this here discussion for instance. Bzztzpht! Noise!
I have my threshold set to 3+ (has worked fine until now) but today all I see (right away anyway) is some "low-quality" chit-chat between the selected few. a.k.a. the Slashdot Elite.
I don't care who's hip on the /. discussion forums, and who's not. I just want insightful and interesting comments on todays news. Personally I don't care who posted what.
I have a suggestion:
smuModerators should by default not be allowed to see who posted what. So that we don't have to trust them not to moderate up only their friends.
Make the moderators person-blind and have some sort of setup to help them review only the newest postings on a thread. The system today only moderates the first few postings, and then the rest is left unread by the moderators, nomatter how insightful or otherwise interesting they may be... this sucks
I agree with the above stuff from Gordon and this other guy. They're probably the highest quality remarks I've seen in this whole discussion
Just look at this disscussion for instance. Never since the real moderation started has there been such a noisy discussion. This reminds me of the old and useless Slashdot
I have my threshold set to 3+ and todays top-"quality" postings are nothing but a low-quality chit-chat between the selected few. - The Slashdot Elite.
Yuk!
SmuThe essay offers a really nice plain-english introduction to the basic ideas and "virtues" of capitalist economic theory. This is good, but not to the point. I would have liked to see more bytes spent on the commercialization of OSS.
The author reguarly confuses the terms Free Software and Open-Source Software, and in some places seems not to realise the difference between free (of cost), and free(dom). This bothers me.
The essay barely touches some very important issues:(This is currently a problem, and will be even harder to enforce when the source code is awailable.)
Furthermore, the essay merely points out an alternative way to start an ordinary company/software-business, defying geographical borders and office walls. This may be good (and it may not?), but has really nothing to do with OSS or FS.
The author seems to trivialize/ignore/miss one of the main differences between the current "non-commercial" OSS and FS and the standard capitalism.
In capitalism, as he correctly points out, everything centers around how much the product is worth to the user, whereas in OSS/FS the actual cost-of-production is all that matters.
The beauty of the current OSS/FS gift-model is that it insures that no-one is ever forced to pay more than the actual production cost of the product. And since in most cases there is little or no direct monetary return, everyone involved has a direct incentive to minimize the cost of production, e.g. by re-using works of others, and sharing workload. (On the whole, this is the key benefit of the OSS and FS models, and IMO the basic idea behind the GPL. Once a problem has been solved, once a software has been written, no-one should be forced to solve/write it again.)
In this sense the OSS/FS gift-model causes more optimization (and benefit) for the whole society, than the standard commercial model does.
I would have liked to see the author spend more time trying to savour this difference, and ways to translate respect into "rock-hard currency".
</mytwocents>, Smu
subject sort of says all
Basically, cut away the bad steps to the good reply, and then show tem (as a reference) above the good message when the user asks for it. Messages receiving this treatment could be marked as such.
BTW, please show scores in the thread overview lists.