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  1. Re:This article contains material on evolution. on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    The part of irreducible complexity that gets me is where life formed out of non life. A cell must have so many parts working in order to still function. Take away one of those parts and it cease to be alive. And while alotho you may have a pile of amino acids and the "building blocks of life". How did that form life? That is my question.

  2. Re:This article contains material on evolution. on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia has good information on theory. Maybe that can answer your question.

  3. Re:What God made, we might not fully understand on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    Each Christian sect has a slightly different version and/or interpretation. Many even believe in Evolutionary Theory and consider "God's story" to be allegorical. A lot of Creationists like to present a unified front against evolution, but we all know they are very much divided.

    A lot of Christians take a negative stand against Evolution because thats what they are told by their pastors/priests. Rather than reviewing the data for themselves. And the christian community is divided into 3 main sects. Young Earth, Old Earth/Progressive, and Theistic Evolution.

    And most of the opposition to evolution comes from the Young Earth Creationist category. They happen to be the least scientifical. They evaluate nature word for word from a nonscientifical passage. Then when things don't line up nature must be wrong or they must find someway to justify it.

    Progressive Creationists try to line up the data of nature with what the Bible teaches. And while this group still has its flaws. It has many very interesting points. (Read some books by Hugh Ross.)

    The third group evaluates solely on nature. They say a nonscientific book book should have no say on what happened in nature. Hence you have Christians believing in evolution.

    Each camp its strengths and weaknesses. Some have way more than others. I personally would fall into the Progressive creationist camp (#2). Things get sticky when you take a mass group of uneducated people and has nonscientific people teach them about occured in nature.

  4. Re:This article contains material on evolution. on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    "The creation story" wasnt intended to be scientifical play by play. But a reminder to the Isrealites what God had done in there past. The antiknowledge comes when you take the nonscientifical data analyze it word for word and claim its scientifical, that would be the Young Earth Creationist camp.

  5. Re:This article contains material on evolution. on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    Gravity is a theory because it cant be proven. The data between relatovity and quantum mechanics do not match. That means that something could be wrong with our model of general relavtity and that is why gravity is a theory. So while although "nongravity" may seem ridiculous gravity as we know it could be flawed and likely is. All of belief systems have their holes. If evolution could be proven, it wouldn't be a theory. But it has yet to be proven. Many obstacles are in the way. Irreducible complexity is one that still gets me. Many other problems exist. And same goes with Young Earth Creationism. For example if they dont believe in "evolution" what happened after the flood? The animals had to evolve within a very very very short time period. (Y.E. Creationist believe that the fall had already occured so God would not create new fallen creatures) So how do we all have the diverisity in the world? They must have evolved. I personally fall into the camp of PRogressive Creationism. It is the camp of christianity that says that nature and what the bible says must align. So rather than interepting religion in terms of nature or jumping the gun and making assumptions about nature, we must look objectively at both.

  6. Re:This is going to disturb Lee Strobel upset on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    Everyone likes to believe that they belief system is the strongest. Thus having scientific arguements used by people who dont know science often ends in catastrophy. And while many christians Frankly fail at using scientific arugements that is simply uneducation of the masses. Some christian somewhere out there might have heard the "proof" in a sermon somewhere. Which came from a Speaker who had no scientific background and made something up. The whole crowd thinks it logical and that the speaker wouldnt lie to them. So therefore it must be a true statement. This has more to do with the gulliblity of the masses and less to do with what Christianity is based on. Just because some people are morons doesnt mean that what they believe in isnt true.

  7. Re:What God made, we might not fully understand on Early Earth Atmosphere Favourable to Life · · Score: 1

    PS While you're at it, start reading the Koran. After two failed attempts (thora and bible), the Koran is the latest and greatest of this best selling author. It is 100% true, according to its disciples. Don't forget, Jews, Christians and Muslims all pray to the same god (evidence can be found in the author's books. For example, they all have Abraham talking to the author.) Jews will claim that none of the three groups believe in the same God. They were the original religion. They claim to have recieved the original instructions from God.

    Christians will argue that both Jews and Christians believe in the same God. And muslim believe that all believe in the same God. (Yet the call the former infidels and kill them, interesting). Get your facts straight. Christians claim that Jews and Christians believe in the same God because, Jesus was the fulfillment to the Jewish Prophecy. Try reading some of the claims and the fulfillments of Jesus some of them are very interesting.

    And add Islam into the mix. They believe that Jesus was a prophet. Which doesnt completely make sense because their prophet was claiming to be God. How they justify this is through claiming that both the Jewish and Christian writings have been distorted through time but this makes little sense considering there are thousands copies of the originals varying by little (maybe a word or a letter) So the original texts probably didnt change. Claiming that they believe in the same God was probably a ploy to incorporate more followers into his belief system. And once incorporated they can't live it otherwise they are killed.

    Talking about the same person doesnt mean the they are the same. Do a little research r thinking before you make those claims.

  8. Re:What's their point? on Wikipedia Planning a DVD Version · · Score: 3, Insightful

    German people dont necessarily speak english and vice versa. And two DVD's is a lot of space. And 4 cd's isnt even a DVD. And just because other people use multiple disks doesnt mean its a good idea. I remember playing riven and having to switch disks way way to often. And for a Encyclopedia there would be a 50% chance that you would have to switch disks everytime you looked something up. That would be rather annoying when trying to do any research.

  9. Re:I don't know what's sadder... on Imax Theaters Demur On Controversial Science Films · · Score: 1

    What's weirder is that IMAX theaters normally are *in* science museums. You'd think that the Fundies wouldn't set foot in such "ungodly" places and that the people who do go are those interested in science.

    There is quite a bit of unjust discrimination in the previous comment. Not all Fundamentals are completely ignorant of science. Many Fundamentals are very interested in science. The problem lies in the uneducated masses that take the words of their pastors/bishops/priests are the words of God. Accepting a view of science from someone who has little scientific knowledge. It truely saddens me that statement could be said honestly by someone.

    Within the Christian Community this is a major debate and science is a top issue. Many (ultra) conservative scientists such as Ken Ham hold a young earth creationists view. Where as Old Earth creationists take a view that much better harmonizes the Bible and science. Hugh Ross is the leading scientist with a very interesting research on Astrophysics.

  10. Old Versions on Business Models: Napster to Go vs. iPod · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can still get old versions of winamp at oldversion.com The Update to 5.08 was the fix to WMA-DRM.

  11. Poor History is no reason not to change the future on Digital Praise Takes Up Christian Gaming Cause · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the realm of video games, christian video games have been lacking. There have been a couple doom off shoots and other miscellaneous games that have fallen short of being anything quality. One possible reason is because these company are not doing it out of a want to spread "the gospel". But they are also capitalist trying to make a quick dollar. If they can sell a game that does require almost any time for programming the game and market merely as a "christian" game. Some mom is going to see it on the shelf and say "Its christian, it will be a good alternative to my little boy that like to play games that blow up things." This is as far as the game producers would care. Once the product is bought the lack of quality is no longer a problem. A game should not merely be looked down because it holds the title "christian" but because it is coming froma capitalistic society that it marketing on its christian label. If this company can produce quality games that have a christian influence it might change the tide of previous crappy programming. And in defence of christian about the previously mentioned crusades. These are obvious black marks on christian history. But the inquistion and the crusades had little to do with what the bible actually said. No where in the bible does it say anything about harming anyone or forcing anyone to believe in anything. The crusades where not based on christian morals. Simply Christianity is not at fault for the actions of people claiming to be Christians. Churches have been filled and will be filled with people who claim to be christians but really aren't.