"I find it unlikely that Joe Random Hacker... Open source effectivel ignores copyright"
PLEASE don't say it like that. The reality is that copyright law is the one and only thing that gives open source licences their legal clout. Without copyright, Open Source does not exist. Open source is built on copyright, relies on copyright, must have copyright, won't work without copyright. So, in that sense it does not 'effectively ignore' copyright.
Maybe you meant that open source allows kids to download heaps of stuff without paying for it, just like pirating copyrighted software by 'effectively ignoring' the copyright. Yes, in that sence, it does 'effectively ignore' copyright. But then you are giving weight to the anti-FLOSS FUD-mongers, and perhaps giving kids the wrong idea about the rights of copyright holders.
I am not attacking your post. I liked what you said, it was well thoughful and informative. And, I am not saying you don't understand Open Source. I am just asking that you be careful when you say things like that, because it is too, too easy to take the wrong way.
That part of your post is bullshit. MS Windows is the barest of bare-bones window managers, and you know it. Fluxbox has MORE than Windows. Like shading, tabs, workspaces, autoraise, focus policies not to mention more eyecandy (yes, Fluxbox has more eyecandy!). Even twm has more functional power than the Windows window manager, so your statement is bullshit.
Having got that off my chest, I think it's perfectly reasonable to compare COMPARABLE window managers when you talk about speed. Like, for instance compare windows with twm. twm wins. windows with fluxbox. fluxbox wins. windows with kde or gnome is unfair b/c both of those are desktop environments with underlying framework. May look a bit like windows, but not the same beast. How about you compare windows with xfce? xfce wins.
Everytime I read an article about the latest, greatest ideas in window management, I just go through the list and think 'you can already do that with fvwm,.. that too.. and that.. ho hum'
It really bugs me. I think the real problem with fvwm (apart from the default theme) is it's name. Try saying 'Looking Glass, Looking Glass, Looking Glass' a few times. Now try saying 'fvwm2, fvwm2, fvwm2'. See what I mean? Is this a name to grab market share? I think not.
I guess the bottom line is - a few of us know about fvwm, most of us don't. Oooooh... 3D windows.
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"I find it unlikely that Joe Random Hacker ... Open source effectivel ignores copyright"
PLEASE don't say it like that. The reality is that copyright law is the one and only thing that gives open source licences their legal clout. Without copyright, Open Source does not exist. Open source is built on copyright, relies on copyright, must have copyright, won't work without copyright. So, in that sense it does not 'effectively ignore' copyright.
Maybe you meant that open source allows kids to download heaps of stuff without paying for it, just like pirating copyrighted software by 'effectively ignoring' the copyright. Yes, in that sence, it does 'effectively ignore' copyright. But then you are giving weight to the anti-FLOSS FUD-mongers, and perhaps giving kids the wrong idea about the rights of copyright holders.
I am not attacking your post. I liked what you said, it was well thoughful and informative. And, I am not saying you don't understand Open Source. I am just asking that you be careful when you say things like that, because it is too, too easy to take the wrong way.
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That part of your post is bullshit. MS Windows is the barest of bare-bones window managers, and you know it. Fluxbox has MORE than Windows. Like shading, tabs, workspaces, autoraise, focus policies not to mention more eyecandy (yes, Fluxbox has more eyecandy!). Even twm has more functional power than the Windows window manager, so your statement is bullshit.
Having got that off my chest, I think it's perfectly reasonable to compare COMPARABLE window managers when you talk about speed. Like, for instance compare windows with twm. twm wins. windows with fluxbox. fluxbox wins. windows with kde or gnome is unfair b/c both of those are desktop environments with underlying framework. May look a bit like windows, but not the same beast. How about you compare windows with xfce? xfce wins.
It really bugs me. I think the real problem with fvwm (apart from the default theme) is it's name. Try saying 'Looking Glass, Looking Glass, Looking Glass' a few times. Now try saying 'fvwm2, fvwm2, fvwm2'. See what I mean? Is this a name to grab market share? I think not.
I guess the bottom line is - a few of us know about fvwm, most of us don't. Oooooh... 3D windows.