Think of this: are we getting the whole story? Isn't it quite possible that he was re-selling the universities bandwidth and that's what he was expelled and found liable to pay back?
Figure maybe he was doing it for 6 months, I don't go to ao university at the moment, but some charge for access to the network/internet I'd imagine. So, if he was hosting for 50 people, say for $25 a month, that comes to $7,500. Yes, these are totally hypothetical numbers. Ok, they say it also got hacked, figure maybe the userbase doubled from people getting on with hacked accounts. There's $15,000 (another hypothetical number) of precieved loss by the university, now they don't need to prove it to bring it to court, but like the story says the person settled out of court because of the attourney fees.
Being kicked out for trying to make money by breaking the rules set up by a university is not a new thing.
well, he(/she) could be talking about usable channels (remember all the interference questions/debates?) Say you've found 3 or 4 that seem to not have any interference, well since there's going to be 2 points per building (and I imagine the buildings aren't all that far appart) there could very well be points where 3 or 4 access points intersect, which could help if some interference cropps up you'll still have plenty of alternative channels. (now that I read back again, it doesn't look like that was the intended point, but it could bring up some help)
I'm reletively sure you're going to want a fairly turnkey solution for the residents. The more you have to set up for them the more often you have to fix their other problems in the process and if it's something that they can set up themselves you can justify a higher personal install fee if they choose to have someone else do it. I'm sure that something as simple as a modem (be it internal or external) is what you're going to need to be really feasable, otherwise the labor cost benefit of not running the cables can be outweighed by support costs of setting people up and keeping them running.
In an apartment building the main benefit of running wireless is not having to run cables and install jacks in the individual apartments, but if you're spending 3 hours to set up individual people anyway you might as well just run a cable and get them a cheap nic. The other benefit (which is where I'm at) is when the apartment owners/managers have no interest in the project and you are doing it as a grassroots effort (ok, I'm looking for a reason to get a T1 and need to offset the cost.)
My advice is only if you can't do it with wires then go wireless, or use the wireless to just go point to point (something more directional and maybe non "standard" say on the roof or something) just to get the network to the building and then run cables to the individual apartments. I'm much more fond of the physical access granting method than software.
Now of course you would still have to worry about people doing their own grassroots efforts (or even people that don't know they're doing it) and setting up their own access points and sharing with their neighbors. Oh man... this wireless deal opens up a whole can of worms now doesn't it?
Being you're in an apartment building you'll eventually find the problem people and either annoy them (by shutting off their hacks and blocking them when they annoy you)long enough that they'll finally jus pay for the service or if you as the service provider are part of the apartment management you could possibly evict them. I'd be more worried about neighboring residents outside the complex if there are any.
I'm working on a similar project (almost identical) and is ip over power line a reality right now? I never see them anywhere and what are the effects of the power grid? Can I just plug it to a building and feed the place or if I feed one building is it going to feed the neighborhood? Price is also an issue.
Of course our luck once we got it all set up they'd stretch the dsl that stops 1/4 mile down the road to us.
I live near Tacoma and about everyone is that doesn't live there is jealous because they have their own city run Cable and Broadband company run by the city ( http://www.click-network.com/.) It took a while for them to get it up and running, but once they did it seems to have worked out great, haven't heard much of a bad thing about it other than aparently a few burrocrats had a few shady deals going on with it, but when don't you have that happening.
a string of text large enough... say the complete works of a given set of well published writers, add Shakespere, etc. as plain text strings and you gots yourself a big 'ol block of text. Then be creative, take every other word, and/or translate it to other languages on key words (Thus = italian, Thoust = Russian, etc.) plus send on inverted ascii (or shifted,) then encrypt it again. The same string of text could be used over and over as long as it's encrypted differently each time, or even just in a different order. When and encryption is only used as noise to make encryption how easy is that to break? Also the "noise" doesn't have to be decoded on the other end, just reproducable, meaning no need to worry about real time decryption, just synchronized encryption, and think of it this way too, that noise could be used as a timing agent, therefore relieving at least some of the timing and error checking overhead inherently needed in the line, meaning a possiblility of increased bandwidth. Now, I am just talking out of my ass about this for the most part, but it makes sense to me.
I would imagine that one could at least make it pop up a warning on the screen prompting the user of the needed patch (complete with direct link) and sound the pc-speaker which could alert anyone nearby. (someone walking by hearing a beep-beep would probbaly at least turn on the screen.) Something like that should at least help.
ok, this might have turned out to be a redundant post, but it sure didn't seem that way when I started typing, I guess I need to brush up on my typing speed skillz.
I would think only the reporting device could be attacked (in the article) and not the defibulator itself. Which means only the reporting would be disrupted, with a simple dial-up that could/would be much harder to point an attack on. With easily implementable round-robin dial-up schedule to different carriers is should be pretty hard to dos on to, then add possible cell capability and that thing would be damn near buletproof from the internet as far as dos attacks go. Then even if it is attacked, it's not like it's giong to mess with the difibulator itself, all it would really mean is that whoever has the difibulator would not get to have the simple disl-up-observation and they would have to go in to have the data read. Hardly a life threatening situation.
If you wanted one of these to be built in to your tv you'd also want to have the left and right speakers to also be the same shape and size to keep a constant tonal quality between the 3 chaannels. Otherwise you end up with tonal shifts when somoen walks around, and that's bad stuff.
Now, I'm not defending the BBC article, being that they kinda swayed the information, but if you look down to it, what does Napster do, it serves singles. Just go on Napster and try to cosistantly put together full albums, it's not usually easy, so many times it's worth it to go pick up the album. Now if you want one song, what's your choice, go on to Napster and download it or go to the record store and buy the single. So this loss is relevant to Napster. Now I do agree that the article did mis-represent the facts in order to make it look bad, looks like a marketing lawyer wrote it, but if you look at the actual information, the recording industry sales of cd singles was hurt, and that is a market that Napster csn most decidedly claim competition to.
so, let me get this straight, you're comparing the install of a whole line of video cards with a specific video card / motherboard / sound card combination, that from bad driver composition makes it a pain and making it look like Windows 2000 is inferior because of it. I'm sorry if I find that a bit of a weak argument if you're trying to go for the Linux is better than Windows Rally Chant. I mean, I've had my share of incompatibilities and driver peculiarities, but I rarely blame the os as much as I blame the driver writers and component manufacturers, mainly I'll blame or praise the os for the ease of actually instaling the drivers, or the ease or figuring out a problem, and for the most part I do have to say that Linux can be quite daunting in that respect.
I belive its' true, about a year and a half ago the domain fileserver.com was scheduled to go available, I sat on the whois search waiting for it to become available, about a week after the scheduled end date it went on hold, which is a good sign I'd think, then it went back to being registered to the same people, which would/should mean that they had reinstated the registration, but if you look at the last update of the registration it still reflects the same date as the creation date, if they had paid for another 2 years the record should have been updated I'd think, also the name still goes nowhere, a name like that being held is one thing, but being held by the registrar... that's bad.
Judging on some of the reports I've heard of recently about napster users buying more music than non napster users I would almost think the first question might be turned around, or at least reworded a little. In response to the second question I would have to wonder how anyone expects Napster to last the year after being shut down to fight the battle that they have coming to them with little to no income, being the answer to your second question has to be a pretty steep precentage.
Some places don't need massive flow of traffic, but need high speed small times out of the day, so it doesnt' make sense to pay for a full bandwidth of a T3 full time, so they pay in tiers, they pay for the physical T3 (or whatever) and then pay for the bandwidth they use. It makes a lot of sense for a lot of businesses, belive me, I've been there. If trees made bandwidth with no human intervention, I might agree with the oxygen analogy.
I would have to think that it should be just plain kilowatts since 30 killowats for an hour would be 30 kilowatt hours, which would make 30 kilowatt hours per hour redundant... I think....
Actually that's downloads Per User, which means that one person can't download 50 from you at once, but 50 individuals could download from you at once.
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Think of this: are we getting the whole story? Isn't it quite possible that he was re-selling the universities bandwidth and that's what he was expelled and found liable to pay back?
Figure maybe he was doing it for 6 months, I don't go to ao university at the moment, but some charge for access to the network/internet I'd imagine. So, if he was hosting for 50 people, say for $25 a month, that comes to $7,500. Yes, these are totally hypothetical numbers. Ok, they say it also got hacked, figure maybe the userbase doubled from people getting on with hacked accounts. There's $15,000 (another hypothetical number) of precieved loss by the university, now they don't need to prove it to bring it to court, but like the story says the person settled out of court because of the attourney fees.
Being kicked out for trying to make money by breaking the rules set up by a university is not a new thing.
well, he(/she) could be talking about usable channels (remember all the interference questions/debates?) Say you've found 3 or 4 that seem to not have any interference, well since there's going to be 2 points per building (and I imagine the buildings aren't all that far appart) there could very well be points where 3 or 4 access points intersect, which could help if some interference cropps up you'll still have plenty of alternative channels. (now that I read back again, it doesn't look like that was the intended point, but it could bring up some help)
I'm reletively sure you're going to want a fairly turnkey solution for the residents. The more you have to set up for them the more often you have to fix their other problems in the process and if it's something that they can set up themselves you can justify a higher personal install fee if they choose to have someone else do it. I'm sure that something as simple as a modem (be it internal or external) is what you're going to need to be really feasable, otherwise the labor cost benefit of not running the cables can be outweighed by support costs of setting people up and keeping them running.
In an apartment building the main benefit of running wireless is not having to run cables and install jacks in the individual apartments, but if you're spending 3 hours to set up individual people anyway you might as well just run a cable and get them a cheap nic. The other benefit (which is where I'm at) is when the apartment owners/managers have no interest in the project and you are doing it as a grassroots effort (ok, I'm looking for a reason to get a T1 and need to offset the cost.)
My advice is only if you can't do it with wires then go wireless, or use the wireless to just go point to point (something more directional and maybe non "standard" say on the roof or something) just to get the network to the building and then run cables to the individual apartments. I'm much more fond of the physical access granting method than software.
Now of course you would still have to worry about people doing their own grassroots efforts (or even people that don't know they're doing it) and setting up their own access points and sharing with their neighbors. Oh man... this wireless deal opens up a whole can of worms now doesn't it?
Being you're in an apartment building you'll eventually find the problem people and either annoy them (by shutting off their hacks and blocking them when they annoy you)long enough that they'll finally jus pay for the service or if you as the service provider are part of the apartment management you could possibly evict them. I'd be more worried about neighboring residents outside the complex if there are any.
I'm working on a similar project (almost identical) and is ip over power line a reality right now? I never see them anywhere and what are the effects of the power grid? Can I just plug it to a building and feed the place or if I feed one building is it going to feed the neighborhood? Price is also an issue.
Of course our luck once we got it all set up they'd stretch the dsl that stops 1/4 mile down the road to us.
(cough) read the next post - http://www.click-network.com/ (cough)
I live near Tacoma and about everyone is that doesn't live there is jealous because they have their own city run Cable and Broadband company run by the city ( http://www.click-network.com/ .) It took a while for them to get it up and running, but once they did it seems to have worked out great, haven't heard much of a bad thing about it other than aparently a few burrocrats had a few shady deals going on with it, but when don't you have that happening.
a string of text large enough... say the complete works of a given set of well published writers, add Shakespere, etc. as plain text strings and you gots yourself a big 'ol block of text. Then be creative, take every other word, and/or translate it to other languages on key words (Thus = italian, Thoust = Russian, etc.) plus send on inverted ascii (or shifted,) then encrypt it again. The same string of text could be used over and over as long as it's encrypted differently each time, or even just in a different order. When and encryption is only used as noise to make encryption how easy is that to break? Also the "noise" doesn't have to be decoded on the other end, just reproducable, meaning no need to worry about real time decryption, just synchronized encryption, and think of it this way too, that noise could be used as a timing agent, therefore relieving at least some of the timing and error checking overhead inherently needed in the line, meaning a possiblility of increased bandwidth. Now, I am just talking out of my ass about this for the most part, but it makes sense to me.
I would imagine that one could at least make it pop up a warning on the screen prompting the user of the needed patch (complete with direct link) and sound the pc-speaker which could alert anyone nearby. (someone walking by hearing a beep-beep would probbaly at least turn on the screen.) Something like that should at least help.
ok, this might have turned out to be a redundant post, but it sure didn't seem that way when I started typing, I guess I need to brush up on my typing speed skillz.
matguy
I would think only the reporting device could be attacked (in the article) and not the defibulator itself. Which means only the reporting would be disrupted, with a simple dial-up that could/would be much harder to point an attack on. With easily implementable round-robin dial-up schedule to different carriers is should be pretty hard to dos on to, then add possible cell capability and that thing would be damn near buletproof from the internet as far as dos attacks go. Then even if it is attacked, it's not like it's giong to mess with the difibulator itself, all it would really mean is that whoever has the difibulator would not get to have the simple disl-up-observation and they would have to go in to have the data read. Hardly a life threatening situation.
matguy
Also remember that Texas also still has the defense for murder of: "He Done Needed Shootin." (the wording may be different, same idea)
matguy
Ok, the bank may not legally have full ownership of it yet, but if you call the cops and they come, guess who ends up with the car?
matguy
well, also, take in to account since you have let you payments for the vehicle the bank still owns how can you be protecting your property?
matguy
Home Watcher does it prety well, been using for about a year or so. I know, it runs on windows and isn't open source, but it works well.
matguy
If you wanted one of these to be built in to your tv you'd also want to have the left and right speakers to also be the same shape and size to keep a constant tonal quality between the 3 chaannels. Otherwise you end up with tonal shifts when somoen walks around, and that's bad stuff.
matguy
Now, I'm not defending the BBC article, being that they kinda swayed the information, but if you look down to it, what does Napster do, it serves singles. Just go on Napster and try to cosistantly put together full albums, it's not usually easy, so many times it's worth it to go pick up the album. Now if you want one song, what's your choice, go on to Napster and download it or go to the record store and buy the single. So this loss is relevant to Napster. Now I do agree that the article did mis-represent the facts in order to make it look bad, looks like a marketing lawyer wrote it, but if you look at the actual information, the recording industry sales of cd singles was hurt, and that is a market that Napster csn most decidedly claim competition to.
matguy
so, let me get this straight, you're comparing the install of a whole line of video cards with a specific video card / motherboard / sound card combination, that from bad driver composition makes it a pain and making it look like Windows 2000 is inferior because of it. I'm sorry if I find that a bit of a weak argument if you're trying to go for the Linux is better than Windows Rally Chant. I mean, I've had my share of incompatibilities and driver peculiarities, but I rarely blame the os as much as I blame the driver writers and component manufacturers, mainly I'll blame or praise the os for the ease of actually instaling the drivers, or the ease or figuring out a problem, and for the most part I do have to say that Linux can be quite daunting in that respect.
matguy
I belive its' true, about a year and a half ago the domain fileserver.com was scheduled to go available, I sat on the whois search waiting for it to become available, about a week after the scheduled end date it went on hold, which is a good sign I'd think, then it went back to being registered to the same people, which would/should mean that they had reinstated the registration, but if you look at the last update of the registration it still reflects the same date as the creation date, if they had paid for another 2 years the record should have been updated I'd think, also the name still goes nowhere, a name like that being held is one thing, but being held by the registrar... that's bad.
matguy
Judging on some of the reports I've heard of recently about napster users buying more music than non napster users I would almost think the first question might be turned around, or at least reworded a little. In response to the second question I would have to wonder how anyone expects Napster to last the year after being shut down to fight the battle that they have coming to them with little to no income, being the answer to your second question has to be a pretty steep precentage.
matguy
Some places don't need massive flow of traffic, but need high speed small times out of the day, so it doesnt' make sense to pay for a full bandwidth of a T3 full time, so they pay in tiers, they pay for the physical T3 (or whatever) and then pay for the bandwidth they use. It makes a lot of sense for a lot of businesses, belive me, I've been there. If trees made bandwidth with no human intervention, I might agree with the oxygen analogy.
matguy
a lot of places pay for bandwidth by number of bytes, so when their bill skyrockets, then they care.
matguy
or Direct Connect, or Imesh, or Audio Galaxy.... really, there is no limit or squelching it, information wants to be free.
matguy
I would have to think that it should be just plain kilowatts since 30 killowats for an hour would be 30 kilowatt hours, which would make 30 kilowatt hours per hour redundant... I think....
matguy
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Actually that's downloads Per User, which means that one person can't download 50 from you at once, but 50 individuals could download from you at once.
matguy
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