So, it sounds like IF it can be done at all, it isn't something that "Just Works". This is the kind of thing that Apple could do that would add real value to their customers.
You were sort of right that the CPUs were way over the speeds the average consumer needed. The thing about processor speed is that the the speed need is not linear. Processors often out strip the current need for most users FOR THE SOFTWARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. There are certainly more things the users could use, the software would use requires processors that are faster than what is available. Thus the software isn't written, so their CPU speed IS way over the speed they need.
Once the speeds get fast enough, new classes of software are introduced, and the average users no longer have processors that are faster than they need. I can imagine all sorts of software that users would love to use, but the hardware is not even close to being up to the task of accomplishing it. On the other hand, the fastest i7 is overkill for the software I currently use.
Some people will still want faster graphics, but the OP's point was that the vast majority of people won't want to spend the extra money on it. There really is a "good enough for 90% of the people". Once 90% of the people don't see a benifit in paying the added costs of a seperate GPU, the cost of seperate GPU systems will increase, and fewer stores will carry systems that have it. This will accelerate the process. At the same time, the integrated graphics will continue to improve.
This isn't a "Nobody needs more than 640k" situation.
The problem is that they are claiming that they are only claiming to be affected by electromagnetic fields that they have been informed about. The symptoms disappear when they are around electromagnetic fields that they don't know about.
Maybe so, but I took my son in to find out what kind of pollen caused him to get a runny nose and puffy eyes. They did the battery of tests, and came back telling us that he has sever peanut allergies. That we should keep him away from all peanuts and and peanut products. They also told us that we NEED to buy an Epipen, and keep it with us at all times because just touching peanuts could kill him. We were also told that the Epipen needs to be replaced monthly.
My son eats peanuts all the time. He eats peanut butter straight. There is clearly no peanut allergy. Not even a mild reaction.
While your specs are not met, $100 Android tablets are certainly available now. I can walk 5 blocks down to the CVS Pharmacy and by a $100 Android tablet today.
anyone who can afford it is going to buy the real thing
This is verifiable false. Even suggesting it is absurd.
We are also not in the AtariST/Amiga/PC phase of the tablet war. We are in the Ti99-4a/Vic20 phase. You can tell this by the fact that most people don't have a tablet, and most people don't even see a real need for a tablet. There reason most people don't have any tablet at all is that the current crop of tablets doesn't meet the needs of most of the public. Just as the Vic-20 didn't meet the computing needs of most people. When even 50% of the homes have tablets, THEN we can start talking about a clear winner.
It may be a big enough market for a separate app, but that isn't what I was responding to. am 2k claimed that adding features to an existing program "only takes up precious development time". This means that either he believes it takes less time to write and maintain a completely separate app than include the features in the existing app, or that the 4 million users that do need/want the extra features should just do without.
Your playing the "My shade of gray is better than your shade of gray." game. Virtually major PC manufacturers are building machines that they expect to "Just Work", and they don't expect people to be opening their machines and fiddling with parts. Whether Apple is better about supplying driver or not does not change the fact that they all try to accomplish:
selling products and systems that are tightly integrated and designed to "Just Work(tm)"
Is it? That I don't know. You can log in as different users, but I was under the impression that that was basically different profiles for access rights. Does anyone here know if you can run multiple users at the same time on a single Mac as a true multiuser system?
iDevices have video out, and support keyboards. (I don't know about mice, but it certainly wouldn't be hard for apple to implement) So, yes. A simple doc that a keyboard and monitor are plugged into, and you have a full desktop via Remote desktop. For iPads, many people wouldn't even need the extra monitor, as the screen would be...OK... for them.
None of those give you a OSX desktop, so they don't replace a desktop computer. The other response to this that says you can Remote Desktop in to the Mac Mini, doesn't really solve the problem because only one user can connect.
You are absolutely wrong about that. Many, many people would claim that the touch interface has been perfected. This will be particularity prevalent with iOS users.
Are you suggesting that an entirely different application be written for those 1% of users that need the extra functionality? That isn't really a good way to reduce precious development time.
I can't claim to have traveled extensively in Europe, but visiting England, most of my time spent in London, I say BS. London was as much of a crappy place to be downtown as American cities, and the public transportation stunk of urine, was running empty half the time, and uncomfortably over packed at others. It also was not reliable, as I would periodically find subway stations closed when I went to go and enter. London didn't seem much different than any American city other than most people spoke with an English Accent and the money looked different. Well, OK, the museums were cooler.
Sure it does, and this building is clearly designed to achieve specific behaviors. Specifically to make people enjoy their jobs instead of wanting to kill themselves halfway through every workday.
For most households, Apple would do well to make a Mac Home Server that ran multi-user OSX and then integrated a Remote Desktop into the iDevice for the desktop. So, replacing Macs on the desktop with iDevices, and continuing to sell Macs into the home are note exclusive of each other.
You seem to be under the impression that our college system hasn't turned into a paper mill. Why would you expect a student in High School to copy work, and not a college student? Obviously, you have given up on High Schools as legitimate institutions of education, but still cling the the idea that colleges are still pure.
is supposed to show, that you have some persistence
This one always cracks me up. I have met only one or two people that graduated college because of persistence. Most went to college because it was a way to have mommy and daddy pay their way for another 6 years.
A needle in a hay stack is used as a metaphor for a reason. A needle is very well hidden in a haystack because it is one small item in a very large pool of other material. That makes it hard to find. The claim that we have no privacy in public is absolutely false. There is also another common, accepted saying. "Lost in the crowd".
So, it sounds like IF it can be done at all, it isn't something that "Just Works". This is the kind of thing that Apple could do that would add real value to their customers.
You were sort of right that the CPUs were way over the speeds the average consumer needed. The thing about processor speed is that the the speed need is not linear. Processors often out strip the current need for most users FOR THE SOFTWARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. There are certainly more things the users could use, the software would use requires processors that are faster than what is available. Thus the software isn't written, so their CPU speed IS way over the speed they need.
Once the speeds get fast enough, new classes of software are introduced, and the average users no longer have processors that are faster than they need. I can imagine all sorts of software that users would love to use, but the hardware is not even close to being up to the task of accomplishing it. On the other hand, the fastest i7 is overkill for the software I currently use.
Some people will still want faster graphics, but the OP's point was that the vast majority of people won't want to spend the extra money on it. There really is a "good enough for 90% of the people". Once 90% of the people don't see a benifit in paying the added costs of a seperate GPU, the cost of seperate GPU systems will increase, and fewer stores will carry systems that have it. This will accelerate the process. At the same time, the integrated graphics will continue to improve.
This isn't a "Nobody needs more than 640k" situation.
The problem is that they are claiming that they are only claiming to be affected by electromagnetic fields that they have been informed about. The symptoms disappear when they are around electromagnetic fields that they don't know about.
Maybe so, but I took my son in to find out what kind of pollen caused him to get a runny nose and puffy eyes. They did the battery of tests, and came back telling us that he has sever peanut allergies. That we should keep him away from all peanuts and and peanut products. They also told us that we NEED to buy an Epipen, and keep it with us at all times because just touching peanuts could kill him. We were also told that the Epipen needs to be replaced monthly.
My son eats peanuts all the time. He eats peanut butter straight. There is clearly no peanut allergy. Not even a mild reaction.
Can you run multiple desktops at the same time so that two different users can VNC into the machine and each get their own desktop?
While your specs are not met, $100 Android tablets are certainly available now. I can walk 5 blocks down to the CVS Pharmacy and by a $100 Android tablet today.
anyone who can afford it is going to buy the real thing
This is verifiable false. Even suggesting it is absurd.
We are also not in the AtariST/Amiga/PC phase of the tablet war. We are in the Ti99-4a/Vic20 phase. You can tell this by the fact that most people don't have a tablet, and most people don't even see a real need for a tablet. There reason most people don't have any tablet at all is that the current crop of tablets doesn't meet the needs of most of the public. Just as the Vic-20 didn't meet the computing needs of most people. When even 50% of the homes have tablets, THEN we can start talking about a clear winner.
It may be a big enough market for a separate app, but that isn't what I was responding to. am 2k claimed that adding features to an existing program "only takes up precious development time". This means that either he believes it takes less time to write and maintain a completely separate app than include the features in the existing app, or that the 4 million users that do need/want the extra features should just do without.
selling products and systems that are tightly integrated and designed to "Just Work(tm)"
Is it? That I don't know. You can log in as different users, but I was under the impression that that was basically different profiles for access rights. Does anyone here know if you can run multiple users at the same time on a single Mac as a true multiuser system?
Correct, and they will claim that THAT version is has been perfected.
iDevices have video out, and support keyboards. (I don't know about mice, but it certainly wouldn't be hard for apple to implement) So, yes. A simple doc that a keyboard and monitor are plugged into, and you have a full desktop via Remote desktop. For iPads, many people wouldn't even need the extra monitor, as the screen would be...OK... for them.
None of those give you a OSX desktop, so they don't replace a desktop computer. The other response to this that says you can Remote Desktop in to the Mac Mini, doesn't really solve the problem because only one user can connect.
However much easier it may be, if you've got a degree that took 6 years, that means you actually stayed in school and didn't do terribly for 6 years.
That's a little like saying that staying on welfare for 6 years shows a commitment to complete something.
You are absolutely wrong about that. Many, many people would claim that the touch interface has been perfected. This will be particularity prevalent with iOS users.
Are you suggesting that an entirely different application be written for those 1% of users that need the extra functionality? That isn't really a good way to reduce precious development time.
I can't claim to have traveled extensively in Europe, but visiting England, most of my time spent in London, I say BS. London was as much of a crappy place to be downtown as American cities, and the public transportation stunk of urine, was running empty half the time, and uncomfortably over packed at others. It also was not reliable, as I would periodically find subway stations closed when I went to go and enter. London didn't seem much different than any American city other than most people spoke with an English Accent and the money looked different. Well, OK, the museums were cooler.
Sure it does, and this building is clearly designed to achieve specific behaviors. Specifically to make people enjoy their jobs instead of wanting to kill themselves halfway through every workday.
For most households, Apple would do well to make a Mac Home Server that ran multi-user OSX and then integrated a Remote Desktop into the iDevice for the desktop. So, replacing Macs on the desktop with iDevices, and continuing to sell Macs into the home are note exclusive of each other.
That sounds just like Gateway, Dell, IBM, and most every other PC maker.
You seem to be under the impression that our college system hasn't turned into a paper mill. Why would you expect a student in High School to copy work, and not a college student? Obviously, you have given up on High Schools as legitimate institutions of education, but still cling the the idea that colleges are still pure.
That gives you a whole lot more than double your profits.
is supposed to show, that you have some persistence
This one always cracks me up. I have met only one or two people that graduated college because of persistence. Most went to college because it was a way to have mommy and daddy pay their way for another 6 years.
A needle in a hay stack is used as a metaphor for a reason. A needle is very well hidden in a haystack because it is one small item in a very large pool of other material. That makes it hard to find. The claim that we have no privacy in public is absolutely false. There is also another common, accepted saying. "Lost in the crowd".