I think you might be taking me just a little too seriously... I was just trying to come up with something funny really, really fast so I could get first post:)
But joking aside, I think saying "look, you can get the internet on a park bench" makes more sense than "look, that park bench is on the internet." The latter just sounds... funny.
Most people agree that a global warming is in progress.
Most people agree that Microsoft Windows is a good operating system. You're full of shit. Should I believe whatever the masses believe? What if everyone believed jumping off a cliff was beneficial? "Well, it looks like everyone believes it, so it has to have some merit... let's try ourselves!...aaahhhh"
Most Americans have no clue about the constant FUD being spread about global warming.
...he suddenly announces that CDs are harmful to people. Harmful? As in physical harm? "Yes, they adversely affect humans," he says. How so? "I can't really go into it," he says. "We'll have a press conference about it soon."
Bingo! Guys, this is the moment we've been waiting for! The MP3 revolution is upon us. This man is brilliant. He is truly a god among men. His company will announce a strategic alliance with all of the P2P programs featuring MP3 files. What amazing timing, considering Napster is soon to be phased out.
This man needs CowboyNeal protection, for he is soon to be hunted by the RIAA. CowboyNeal, you must act now -you are our only hope!
Nope, I haven't had any complaints from any of the flight personnel. Of course, I travel first class and they almost -never- do anything to annoy any of the travelers in that section. They know we spent money for the peace, privacy, and quiet and so, I suppose, we get additional priveleges.
Nah, I didn't copy the DVD to my HD either... the Inspiron only has a 10gb and it's hard enough to keep space free just with normal use. If they did complain, though, I could just alt-tab out to Windows and tell them that it wasn't a DVD player and that I was just watching it off my PC. Imagine that, toggling back and forth between a movie and an Office document... hah:)
I won't flame ya, but I'll throw out this: when I'm flying coast to coast, I'd much rather watch a movie of my choice on my laptop then watch a dull in-flight movie. My Dell Inspiron 3700 is the envy of all... I've had people ask me if they could sit by me (if there's an empty seat) so they could watch it too. DVDs are super-sharp and the audio is fantastic, too. When I'm at home, I'll use my home theater setup, but on the road nothing is better than the laptop.
this isn't about whether or not you think that drugs are bad...mmmmmmmmkay........This isn't about "education." This is about freedom of speech. People have a *right* to know about this stuff. The ONLY reason the question of freedom of speech about narcotics is controversial is because narcotics themselves are controversial.
Of course they have a right to know -about- it. Everyone should know -about- it, not -how- to do it. Perhaps about wasn't the word you should've used.
1)It's absurd to compare illicit narcotics with caffeine. Honestly, though, I haven't had caffeine for more than a year now - orange juice, water, and milk suffice just great - and I've never felt better. Guzzling a 'Dew no longer holds its appeal.
2)Caffeine is not outlawed. Can caffeine produce the same kind of effects as illicit narcotics? No, then, I am not against websites like that.
3)Caffeine doesn't hold any current medicinal value. No, caffeine is not addictive. Strongly appealing, perhaps, but not addictive. Caffeine does not have the addictive properties of drugs.
Caffeine does not cause people to go rob stores/banks/innocents so they can get cash for their next fix. Drugs do. When was the last time you saw someone jumped in the street because the mugger needed money for a Coke?
Ha! Yeah left. Left wingers are about (a)blaming people's mistakes on their situations / telling people they have no responsibility or duty to do anything (b) big government and (c) making decisions based off what the latest poll says.
You start to take away one of our rights and the others will all start to slip away too. Taking away our rights to own fully automatic weapons is WORSE than taking away your "rights" to post drug tutorials.
Going down to Colombia and BOMBING all of the cocoa fields there would accomplish more than anything else we've tried in the past 20 years. I'd love to see that done.
As for people saying that this bill would infringe on people's rights to "educate" - that's ridiculous. Drug education would say "Such and such drugs will do this to you, have these side effects, and will kill you in approximately such a number of years." Drug education is NOT "this is how you make such and such... make sure you include this, and stir the proper amount."
Your right to free speech is not being infringed, you're being prohibited from spreading information about a criminal activity. Do you honestly condone teaching our nation's youth the quickest way to kill themselves? Quit hiding behind the free speech claim.
Sure, they can log on to their local plumbing company's web site and request a service check... ooh. Internet access is great, but I don't think they should immediately jump right into it. Basic necessities should take priority, then ease them onto the net.
The ideas on the net will help them the most... ideas of making the best of your situation, improving yourself and your community, and exceeding your own expectations.
We don't need corporate vigilantism. It is NOT Oracle's "duty" to investigate Microsoft, as you say. You make it sound like Oracle has a moral responsibility to check out Microsoft's affairs. If it was MS doing the "investigating," you'd be screaming your head off about how Microsoft has no respect for the free market and how they're grossly invading privacy. Oracle's actions cannot be justified. They announced that they were checking out Microsoft because they don't want to be in trouble later - if they kept it quiet for a while longer, there'd be a much bigger fuss. They know they weren't supposed to be doing this, and they're trying to fess up now to avoid embarassment in the public later.
There was an interesting point brought up in one of the comments (by Dave Smith) on the interview link.
Shouldn't some restrictions be put on open scripting like this? We don't want a microsoft problem coming and haunting KDE too... Perhaps you can have a database of signed scripts that are able to use the KDE system or somein...
Here's what facilitated that comment:
What elements are mainly shared between all applications in this framework?
Scripting is, in fact scripting is shared between all KDE applications. How you talk to a KDE application and how you script it is a generic system. Among all of the KOffice applications you can also find a lot of common dialogs, and a lot of common tools that are in the framework that allows the user to see a very integrated office suite, not a different set of applications. It's all about having a full, complete office suite which has the same elements for everything.
Whoa... Something just came to me: You put this interview in MP3 format. You call it "Metallica - Slashdot Interview.mp3" and post it up for download. Within minutes, thousands of people have it in their MP3 folders. Let's say a few of those people are running Napster right then. They slap that file in their folder and *boom* that's up on Napster.
Moving on, a user (we'll call him Joe Smoe) on Napster decides to buck the machine and search for 'Metallica.' One hundred results show up and there, near the top of the list is this "Metallica - Slashdot Interview" MP3. He's curious, has no idea what Slashdot is, thinks it's a comedy deal or something and decides to pick it up. He listens to it, laughs, and forgets about it. Along comes NetPD for their weekly trolli... detective work. They find all the users possessing songs with "Metallica" in them. Again, they send a list of users who are "copying" Metallica songs to Napster to be banned. Poor Joe Smoe gets banned and is ticked. He fills out the counter-suit form and sends it in... adding to the 30,000+ people who've already sent it in.
Now, this might be abstract, but *sure* - it could happen and just goes to show that there are more than a few innocent users in the 600,000 has pulled up. Something to ponder about...
Yes, it's definitely reasonable. I think researchers would have a more cynical view of, well, research, if they knew they couldn't patent new processes or systems they had been developed. This goes back to an age old question... shouldn't developers/inventors/researchers be rewarded and recgonized for the progress they make? A researcher who cooks up some great, complicated device wants to be able to hold onto his creation, while still allowing others to use it.
Anyone see parallels between this and the MP3 situation? Artists want people to see their work, but wish to retain "creative control" over it? Something to ponder...
Slashdot Mirror
Incidentally, do you think Slashdot helps develop quickfire debating/joking skills?
:)
Absolutely! You gotta be quick on your feet to even try and compete here
I think you might be taking me just a little too seriously... I was just trying to come up with something funny really, really fast so I could get first post :)
But joking aside, I think saying "look, you can get the internet on a park bench" makes more sense than "look, that park bench is on the internet." The latter just sounds... funny.
Interesting to see Microsoft's approach here -- a park bench on the internet is a good idea.
:)
Isn't it vice versa - the internet on a park bench? I believe so
Most people agree that a global warming is in progress.
...aaahhhh"
Most people agree that Microsoft Windows is a good operating system. You're full of shit. Should I believe whatever the masses believe? What if everyone believed jumping off a cliff was beneficial? "Well, it looks like everyone believes it, so it has to have some merit... let's try ourselves!
Most Americans have no clue about the constant FUD being spread about global warming.
I think an American already tried this, or something similar to it: http://www.harvard-magazine.com/issues/ja99/right. patent.html.
Look at the last paragraph.
Nah, nah. I never liked my computer teacher in school, so I made my password: mrdinnagefeastsdailyondonutsandrockseverynight.
Rather difficult, I believe.
Don't forget Alma Gates, creator of The Beast...
Oh, you're not talking about that one. Oh. But it's still true, isn't it?
...he suddenly announces that CDs are harmful to people. Harmful? As in physical harm? "Yes, they adversely affect humans," he says. How so? "I can't really go into it," he says. "We'll have a press conference about it soon."
Bingo! Guys, this is the moment we've been waiting for! The MP3 revolution is upon us. This man is brilliant. He is truly a god among men. His company will announce a strategic alliance with all of the P2P programs featuring MP3 files. What amazing timing, considering Napster is soon to be phased out.
This man needs CowboyNeal protection, for he is soon to be hunted by the RIAA. CowboyNeal, you must act now -you are our only hope!
Go swiftly, like the wind!
"Gibson uses too many exclamation points in his article." - CmdrTaco
There is a grand total of... 1 exclamation point in that article. CT, learn to count... or learn to stop smoking weed.
Schools use Netscape because it's easier to prevent students from doing things they shouldn't to the computers...
Nope, I haven't had any complaints from any of the flight personnel. Of course, I travel first class and they almost -never- do anything to annoy any of the travelers in that section. They know we spent money for the peace, privacy, and quiet and so, I suppose, we get additional priveleges.
:)
Nah, I didn't copy the DVD to my HD either... the Inspiron only has a 10gb and it's hard enough to keep space free just with normal use. If they did complain, though, I could just alt-tab out to Windows and tell them that it wasn't a DVD player and that I was just watching it off my PC. Imagine that, toggling back and forth between a movie and an Office document... hah
I won't flame ya, but I'll throw out this: when I'm flying coast to coast, I'd much rather watch a movie of my choice on my laptop then watch a dull in-flight movie. My Dell Inspiron 3700 is the envy of all... I've had people ask me if they could sit by me (if there's an empty seat) so they could watch it too. DVDs are super-sharp and the audio is fantastic, too. When I'm at home, I'll use my home theater setup, but on the road nothing is better than the laptop.
this isn't about whether or not you think that drugs are bad...mmmmmmmmkay........This isn't about "education." This is about freedom of speech. People have a *right* to know about this stuff. The ONLY reason the question of freedom of speech about narcotics is controversial is because narcotics themselves are controversial.
:)
Of course they have a right to know -about- it. Everyone should know -about- it, not -how- to do it. Perhaps about wasn't the word you should've used.
1)It's absurd to compare illicit narcotics with caffeine. Honestly, though, I haven't had caffeine for more than a year now - orange juice, water, and milk suffice just great - and I've never felt better. Guzzling a 'Dew no longer holds its appeal.
2)Caffeine is not outlawed. Can caffeine produce the same kind of effects as illicit narcotics? No, then, I am not against websites like that.
3)Caffeine doesn't hold any current medicinal value. No, caffeine is not addictive. Strongly appealing, perhaps, but not addictive. Caffeine does not have the addictive properties of drugs.
Caffeine does not cause people to go rob stores/banks/innocents so they can get cash for their next fix. Drugs do. When was the last time you saw someone jumped in the street because the mugger needed money for a Coke?
And if you *get* my point... good for you!
Ha!
Yeah left.
Left wingers are about (a)blaming people's mistakes on their situations / telling people they have no responsibility or duty to do anything (b) big government and (c) making decisions based off what the latest poll says.
You start to take away one of our rights and the others will all start to slip away too. Taking away our rights to own fully automatic weapons is WORSE than taking away your "rights" to post drug tutorials.
Going down to Colombia and BOMBING all of the cocoa fields there would accomplish more than anything else we've tried in the past 20 years. I'd love to see that done.
As for people saying that this bill would infringe on people's rights to "educate" - that's ridiculous. Drug education would say "Such and such drugs will do this to you, have these side effects, and will kill you in approximately such a number of years." Drug education is NOT "this is how you make such and such... make sure you include this, and stir the proper amount."
Your right to free speech is not being infringed, you're being prohibited from spreading information about a criminal activity. Do you honestly condone teaching our nation's youth the quickest way to kill themselves? Quit hiding behind the free speech claim.
Sure, they can log on to their local plumbing company's web site and request a service check... ooh. Internet access is great, but I don't think they should immediately jump right into it. Basic necessities should take priority, then ease them onto the net.
The ideas on the net will help them the most... ideas of making the best of your situation, improving yourself and your community, and exceeding your own expectations.
We don't need corporate vigilantism. It is NOT Oracle's "duty" to investigate Microsoft, as you say. You make it sound like Oracle has a moral responsibility to check out Microsoft's affairs. If it was MS doing the "investigating," you'd be screaming your head off about how Microsoft has no respect for the free market and how they're grossly invading privacy. Oracle's actions cannot be justified. They announced that they were checking out Microsoft because they don't want to be in trouble later - if they kept it quiet for a while longer, there'd be a much bigger fuss. They know they weren't supposed to be doing this, and they're trying to fess up now to avoid embarassment in the public later.
There was an interesting point brought up in one of the comments (by Dave Smith) on the interview link.
Shouldn't some restrictions be put on open scripting like this? We don't want a microsoft problem coming and haunting KDE too... Perhaps you can have a database of signed scripts that are able to use the KDE system or somein...
Here's what facilitated that comment:
What elements are mainly shared between all applications in this framework?
Scripting is, in fact scripting is shared between all KDE applications. How you talk to a KDE application and how you script it is a generic system. Among all of the KOffice applications you can also find a lot of common dialogs, and a lot of common tools that are in the framework that allows the user to see a very integrated office suite, not a different set of applications. It's all about having a full, complete office suite which has the same elements for everything.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MPPP&d=t
In early trading, MP3.com (symbol MPPP) is already up 3 1/2, more than 20%.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TWX&d=t
Time Warner is also trading well: up 13/16. Might be interesting to watch these two throughout the day.
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That one is more detailed.
Ya, the AT&T antitrust proceedings went through three (or four?) presidencies... It'll be a while.
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Whoa... Something just came to me: You put this interview in MP3 format. You call it "Metallica - Slashdot Interview.mp3" and post it up for download. Within minutes, thousands of people have it in their MP3 folders. Let's say a few of those people are running Napster right then. They slap that file in their folder and *boom* that's up on Napster.
Moving on, a user (we'll call him Joe Smoe) on Napster decides to buck the machine and search for 'Metallica.' One hundred results show up and there, near the top of the list is this "Metallica - Slashdot Interview" MP3. He's curious, has no idea what Slashdot is, thinks it's a comedy deal or something and decides to pick it up. He listens to it, laughs, and forgets about it. Along comes NetPD for their weekly trolli... detective work. They find all the users possessing songs with "Metallica" in them. Again, they send a list of users who are "copying" Metallica songs to Napster to be banned. Poor Joe Smoe gets banned and is ticked. He fills out the counter-suit form and sends it in... adding to the 30,000+ people who've already sent it in.
Now, this might be abstract, but *sure* - it could happen and just goes to show that there are more than a few innocent users in the 600,000 has pulled up. Something to ponder about...
Yes, it's definitely reasonable. I think researchers would have a more cynical view of, well, research, if they knew they couldn't patent new processes or systems they had been developed. This goes back to an age old question... shouldn't developers/inventors/researchers be rewarded and recgonized for the progress they make? A researcher who cooks up some great, complicated device wants to be able to hold onto his creation, while still allowing others to use it.
Anyone see parallels between this and the MP3 situation? Artists want people to see their work, but wish to retain "creative control" over it? Something to ponder...