One wonders if they also looked at French wine using the same process/rigour? During/after the Chernobyl incident? No. France simply declared that the radioactive cloud would not pass over the french border. (That is not a joke).
-- predominantly Tritium which is a VERY weak beta emitter and pretty much harmless -- Harmless if you don't inhale it. Tell that a fish living in water...
There was one single wind mill fire during the last 40 years. As no one is working at a wind mill I doubt there ever was one "killed by a wind mill".
You can hardly proof something wrong. You can only proof something right:D I doubt anyone has made a post somewhere that says "blindseer is wrong, the only reported wind mill fire was 1997" which I can link to:D
If you have so many wind mill fires in the US, then there is obviously something wrong with the mills. And if you have so many dead due to bystanders and/or fire fighters, then there is even more wrong.
Well, the fact that Germany is not allowed to build big ships is common knowledge. And the fact that the US, especially the rust belt and the west coast, is littered with homeless is common knowledge, too. I have friends traveling there every few yeas and they see easy 1000 every trip they make.
But you picked your nick good enough, to blind to see:D
Germany is dependent on hostile nations for it's energy supply. In the case of an economic war on Europe by Russia and/or it's puppets in the Middle East would leave Germany in the cold and dark in less than 18 months. No it would not, we have enough friendly nations to sell us oil and gas, e.g. all north sea neighbouring nations.
Why should I google stuff and prove you wrong with links when you not provide a link, is beyond me:D
I did not say that Germany can not build nuclear powered ships. I said the contracts imposed on us after the lost wars prohibit us to build big ships.
Small difference. And it makes not much sense to power a destroyer with nuclear power. Unless it gets equipped with a rail gun or several lasers perhaps.
Germany has reduced it naval forces drastically, I think we have in total less than 20 ships/subs and 4 in phase of testing, no idea if they want to retire some if the new ones get into service.
Shutting down 3/4 of your electricity production (coal and nuclear), relying heavily on imported erdgas and mineral oil for heat and industry, does not put Germany in any place to negotiate on price. And how would Russia do that? Perhaps you want to read one of your own recent posts again: nuclear power in Germany is about 10%, coal is about 40%, perhaps 45%. So: they only could shut down 50%, not 75% if we would get all our Uranium and Coal from Russia. Which we don't.
Or, Russia can wage an economic war on Europe for decades and make a profit. They are, after all, capitalists. No? How should a nation that has a fraction of the GDP of the rest of Europe wage an economic war? That is like if Arizona is waging an economic war against the rest of the US... Germany alone has a GDP 3 times higher than Russia. The GDP of the EU is 7 times higher than that of Russia.
Electricity to hydrogen to heat is far less efficient than resistance heat (in all practical terms it's 100%) or heat pumps (effectively 200% efficient). What you describe with mixing hydrogen in natural gas is a nice transition measure but in the long run there will have to be a switch to electric heat in some form to be free from natural gas. Creating electricity is about 40% effective from a nuclear or coal plant. Converting that again to heat might be 100% (which it is not, but for sake of argument lets assume it is). Burning natural gas, is 100% effective. So when the question comes: a) do we shut down the damn wind mill that produces to much power? b) do we sell the power for a negative price (because we have no storage ready that can take it)? c) do we create H2 and pump it into / store it in the gas grid?
C) obviously is an efficient decision, even considering that electrolysis is only 70% effective (higher than heat based power plants) and burning it later again is nearly twice as effective than heating with electricity from a coal or nuclear plant.
relying heavily on imported erdgas and mineral oil for heat and industry, does not put Germany in any place to negotiate on price. This is true for 90% of all countries. So again: why do you care? Energy markets are world markets, if Russia gets to expensive we buy elsewhere. And again: Russia is fulfilling 50 year long contracts, that are 40 years old. What would they gain if they break those contracts now?
he amount of homeless is scary.
Citations needed.
Why do you always want citations for "common knowledge"?
How did you plan on getting heat from all those windmills if there was no electric heat? H2, as already explained. Heat from electricity is at the moment not planned. In the long run heat will be produced from biomass, not from electricity, that would not make any sense. However it is thinkable for colder countries than Germany to "store electricity as heat" in big water tanks and use it later to heat houses. That can be done large scale, or local in each house. Or you use solar collectors to create hot water.
The most rational use of electricity to heat would be heat pumps. But those you basically only use to heat a house not to heat water for showers etc. Heating water for showering on the other hand can also be nicely done with electricity as you do usually not need much water. But for a bath it already gets expensive/irrational. You can combine it, heating up water with heat pumps to about 25C and then pipe it through a el
Neither do books, You don't make a copy from the book when you read it.
DVDs don't come with licenses. Yes they come, the license is "implied".
No one who is not distributing copies to others should have any reason to know or care about copyright law. False. Because then he can simply copy something from somewhere for his own use, and that is what copyright first most wants to restrict.
Germany is restricted by international treaties, after WWI ans WWII to build no ship bigger than a big destroyer. Regarding a war with Russia, that idea is utopic. If Russia is not selling it is violating 40 year old contracts, and most likely gets a boycott on everything they buy from europe and everything else they sell. Of course the north sea price of gas will increase, but we as well can buy liquified gas from the US or Canada.
In Germany no one wants nuclear power, and if a government is so stupid to reintroduce it, the riots will look very small in comparision with a Russian invasion;)
Perhaps you want to look on a map, and point out where you could safely build one? All existing plants are build on seismic zones. So: find a seismic stable zone, that has enough water for cooling... not so easy. Then we have the waste problem, we already have a nightmarish amount of waste. Soon all nuclear plants will be replaced with wind... Then with global warming rivers often are low on water or already quite warm, so nuclear plants have to shut down to not overheat the river and kil, all the wildlife, like in France. That is the main reason why France is importing so much electricity from German: in summer they have to shut down plenty of their Nukes to keep the rivers ok.
So, we could place some into the north sea... alas, for what? We place off shore wind plants there already.
Neither Germany nor Japan used nuclear power for heating in a meaningful amount. People don't live close to nuclear plants, so direct heating with waste heat is not an option. Electricity is only very rarely used for heating.
Why would we replace house heating with gas by coal and oil? Where should the oil come from? Arabia and surroundings? What is the point of that? Where would the coal come from? China? Or india or Australia? What would be the point of that?
It makes much more sense to use wind power and produce H2 as replacement for natural gas (which we are actually already doing, the H2 is mixed into the gas grid)
Your concerns about Russia are just because of the stupid fear mongering news in the US. Russia, as a "Putin led government" is playing out its strength in Syria and Ukraine. However Russia as a nation is a capitalist country, and its corporations want to make money.
Going for a war with west Europe would leave Russia crippled for decades... and for that we don't even need american NATO support nor nukes. There probably would not be any majour Russian corporation left after a brief war with West Europe. Tricky would be stuff like just attacking baltic nations. They are the youngest children in the NATO, and some people fear that the NATO could sacrisfice them, but I doubt that.
Anywax, for 90% of the nations on the globe the situation is the same: they have to import all primary energy resources, and most other natural resources like ores, because they don't have them. And countries like the US import aluminium and steel because their 'ruling class' lacks the pride to keep a functional industry afloat and thinks it makes sense to buy from the cheapest seller on the world market.
You are concerned about Germany and west europe? Well, the USA are going downhill more and more, soon they will only be a tourist attraction, but only briefly, the amount of homeless is scary.
In the case of computers, ephemeral copies created inside of the computers memory for the purpose of displaying the image do not create a discrete copy; computers do not violate copyright by being built with cache, or by having separate main memory and video memory. A physical mirror is an even easier case. Strange that most courts in the world see that different. Why do you need a license to run software? Because the computer is copying it from disk to main memory to execute it, same for the contents of a DVD. Can't be so hard to grasp.
You are again mixing up energy with electricity. Why do you insist on doing that? If you want to talk about either, use the proper term. Of course we use about 1/4 nat gas for _energy_ as in heating
So what is your rant about germany importing gas and especially 40% from Russia about? Why do you care? From where else should we import when the best deal right now is offere by Russia?
Germany has no ships big enough to warant a nuclear reactor. And as I said before, if Russia drops out as supplier - for what ever reason - we have enough fallback options, for natural gas.
If Trump does not spoil it, there will never be another war in Europe anyway...
Your claims may be technically true but it is a lie by omission. I did not lie or omit anything. The talk and your claims where about electricity, claiming we would import a lot, which is wrong, we are a net exporter.
Germany imports 90%+ of the natural gas they burn. Germany imports 90%+ of the oil they burn. Germany imports about half of the coal they burn.
Wow you are a smart ass, I wonder why we germans don't know that... uh, actually: everyone knows that. Surprisingly the same is true for nearly every european nation, really surprised?
large portion of that electricity derived from foreign coal and natural gas Nope, we don't produce much electricity with gas.
By comparison the United States is 80% to 90%+ energy independent and is a net exporter of both oil and coal. By comparison the US are 200 times bigger than Germany and happens to have those resources, Germany has only very limited oil and gas and only very expensive hard coal as all the easy one is already mined away since 50 years. Half of the coal we burn is domestic lignite... so we actually don't import that much. Bottom line it does not matter anyway as we plan to be coal free soon.
Germany gets 35% of their electricity from domestic wind, solar, hydro, and biomass. Actually last year it was 38.5% this year it will be above 40%. You probably found links from 2015 or older...
So with 40% renewables and 10% nuclear we have about 50% left which is produced with various kinds of coal, and half of that is imported: so 25% of our electricity is produced by imported coal. That does not sound so bad, or does it?
they can't defend themselves from hostile neighbors like Russia if they hold the means to freeze them to death by turning a valve. You are really an idiot, aren't you? What happens if Russia stops the gas deliveries to Germany? First off all we have stored gas for about 2 years of usage, secondly we will get our gas from Netherlands, Norway and: we have our own gas... how can you be so stupid is beyond me.
now they are having to ship in nuclear power from France You seem not to know that France is buying more power from Germany than other way around, however: I told you that already a dozen times, so stop spreading your stupid lies.
We see this happening with Germany. They can't provide for their own energy because they shut down their nuclear power. Germany produces about 50% more power than it uses, moron. Which is sold to its neighbours or other European countries. Germany has not shut down its nuclear power, you moron. It is in the process of doing so and has shut down a little bit less than half of it, moron.
Has anyone done a risk analysis on using nuclear power? It turns out lots of people have. We find that nuclear power is the safest energy source we have. How can that be? Because a nuclear power plant can produce 1.21 GW of electricity with a capacity factor exceeding 90% for close to 80 years and very few people are killed or injured. Capacity factor is irrelevant. You would grasp that if you tried to produce 100% of the power your country consumes with 90% CF plants.
Compare this to wind, solar, and hydro which have a capacity factors around 35% and people still die from industrial accidents in building and maintaining them. Comparing total energy out to people dead means fewer people dead from nuclear power than anything we know of. Sure, and no one ever died in building a nuclear plant, or while mining or refining uranium... lol.
Greece never had anything similar to the "nordic model".
But you are right, the mentality is so different. The greek are trickster/cheaters trying to betray everyone, even each other and it goes so far that you get wrong property tax bills from the tax authorities and you have to go to court to get it fixed (happens mostly to people who freshly inherited some land or old farm, but the tax bills are wrong by a factor of ten or more).
Despite the fact that you got modded several times above +3 in your answers to PopeRatzo: you are just an idiot. And so are your moderators.
Can't be so expensive to fly to Denmark and check for your self, or use google earth.
E.g. I'm not sure how much you'd appreciate your grocery shopping choices Hae? What? What kind of choices are you talking about? The fact that alcohol is expensive (relatively)? Or the fact that the girl at the cashier is most likely an immigrant and black or brown or asian?
Slashdot Mirror
Caesium 137 is not an "enriched" isotope, it is a decay product.
Of course coal has put far more radiation into the air and water than has nuke power. ...
It hasn't, that myth is debunked since the 1960s
One wonders if they also looked at French wine using the same process/rigour?
During/after the Chernobyl incident? No. France simply declared that the radioactive cloud would not pass over the french border. (That is not a joke).
-- predominantly Tritium which is a VERY weak beta emitter and pretty much harmless -- ...
Harmless if you don't inhale it.
Tell that a fish living in water
Perhaps in 50 years we have space telescopes orbiting behind the Pluto orbit, using the sun as gravity lens. Imagine what you could see with them ...
The laser reflectors could have been shot there by an unmanned mission ... just saying.
There was one single wind mill fire during the last 40 years. As no one is working at a wind mill I doubt there ever was one "killed by a wind mill".
You can hardly proof something wrong. You can only proof something right :D I doubt anyone has made a post somewhere that says "blindseer is wrong, the only reported wind mill fire was 1997" which I can link to :D
If you have so many wind mill fires in the US, then there is obviously something wrong with the mills. And if you have so many dead due to bystanders and/or fire fighters, then there is even more wrong.
Well,
the fact that Germany is not allowed to build big ships is common knowledge.
And the fact that the US, especially the rust belt and the west coast, is littered with homeless is common knowledge, too. I have friends traveling there every few yeas and they see easy 1000 every trip they make.
But you picked your nick good enough, to blind to see :D
Germany is dependent on hostile nations for it's energy supply. In the case of an economic war on Europe by Russia and/or it's puppets in the Middle East would leave Germany in the cold and dark in less than 18 months.
No it would not, we have enough friendly nations to sell us oil and gas, e.g. all north sea neighbouring nations.
Why should I google stuff and prove you wrong with links when you not provide a link, is beyond me :D
They started much later.
So again: what is your point?
About whom do you want to rant next? India?
And in ten years you rant about an African nation?
Start to accept that most nations are far beyond the level the USA have been around 1965 - 1969.
No one stops an Arabic prince to found an Space X2 and catch up with Elon in 10 years.
I did not say that Germany can not build nuclear powered ships.
I said the contracts imposed on us after the lost wars prohibit us to build big ships.
Small difference. And it makes not much sense to power a destroyer with nuclear power. Unless it gets equipped with a rail gun or several lasers perhaps.
Germany has reduced it naval forces drastically, I think we have in total less than 20 ships/subs and 4 in phase of testing, no idea if they want to retire some if the new ones get into service.
Shutting down 3/4 of your electricity production (coal and nuclear), relying heavily on imported erdgas and mineral oil for heat and industry, does not put Germany in any place to negotiate on price.
And how would Russia do that? Perhaps you want to read one of your own recent posts again: nuclear power in Germany is about 10%, coal is about 40%, perhaps 45%. So: they only could shut down 50%, not 75% if we would get all our Uranium and Coal from Russia. Which we don't.
Or, Russia can wage an economic war on Europe for decades and make a profit. They are, after all, capitalists. No? ... Germany alone has a GDP 3 times higher than Russia. The GDP of the EU is 7 times higher than that of Russia.
How should a nation that has a fraction of the GDP of the rest of Europe wage an economic war? That is like if Arizona is waging an economic war against the rest of the US
Electricity to hydrogen to heat is far less efficient than resistance heat (in all practical terms it's 100%) or heat pumps (effectively 200% efficient). What you describe with mixing hydrogen in natural gas is a nice transition measure but in the long run there will have to be a switch to electric heat in some form to be free from natural gas.
Creating electricity is about 40% effective from a nuclear or coal plant. Converting that again to heat might be 100% (which it is not, but for sake of argument lets assume it is). Burning natural gas, is 100% effective. So when the question comes:
a) do we shut down the damn wind mill that produces to much power?
b) do we sell the power for a negative price (because we have no storage ready that can take it)?
c) do we create H2 and pump it into / store it in the gas grid?
C) obviously is an efficient decision, even considering that electrolysis is only 70% effective (higher than heat based power plants) and burning it later again is nearly twice as effective than heating with electricity from a coal or nuclear plant.
relying heavily on imported erdgas and mineral oil for heat and industry, does not put Germany in any place to negotiate on price.
This is true for 90% of all countries. So again: why do you care? Energy markets are world markets, if Russia gets to expensive we buy elsewhere. And again: Russia is fulfilling 50 year long contracts, that are 40 years old. What would they gain if they break those contracts now?
he amount of homeless is scary.
Citations needed.
Why do you always want citations for "common knowledge"?
How did you plan on getting heat from all those windmills if there was no electric heat? H2, as already explained. Heat from electricity is at the moment not planned. In the long run heat will be produced from biomass, not from electricity, that would not make any sense. However it is thinkable for colder countries than Germany to "store electricity as heat" in big water tanks and use it later to heat houses. That can be done large scale, or local in each house. Or you use solar collectors to create hot water.
The most rational use of electricity to heat would be heat pumps. But those you basically only use to heat a house not to heat water for showers etc. Heating water for showering on the other hand can also be nicely done with electricity as you do usually not need much water. But for a bath it already gets expensive/irrational.
You can combine it, heating up water with heat pumps to about 25C and then pipe it through a el
Neither do books,
You don't make a copy from the book when you read it.
DVDs don't come with licenses.
Yes they come, the license is "implied".
No one who is not distributing copies to others should have any reason to know or care about copyright law. False. Because then he can simply copy something from somewhere for his own use, and that is what copyright first most wants to restrict.
We are in the year 2018, why would they use 1960's rocket tech?
Germany is restricted by international treaties, after WWI ans WWII to build no ship bigger than a big destroyer.
Regarding a war with Russia, that idea is utopic.
If Russia is not selling it is violating 40 year old contracts, and most likely gets a boycott on everything they buy from europe and everything else they sell. Of course the north sea price of gas will increase, but we as well can buy liquified gas from the US or Canada.
In Germany no one wants nuclear power, and if a government is so stupid to reintroduce it, the riots will look very small in comparision with a Russian invasion ;)
Perhaps you want to look on a map, and point out where you could safely build one? All existing plants are build on seismic zones. So: find a seismic stable zone, that has enough water for cooling ... not so easy. Then we have the waste problem, we already have a nightmarish amount of waste. Soon all nuclear plants will be replaced with wind ...
Then with global warming rivers often are low on water or already quite warm, so nuclear plants have to shut down to not overheat the river and kil, all the wildlife, like in France. That is the main reason why France is importing so much electricity from German: in summer they have to shut down plenty of their Nukes to keep the rivers ok.
So, we could place some into the north sea ... alas, for what? We place off shore wind plants there already.
Neither Germany nor Japan used nuclear power for heating in a meaningful amount. People don't live close to nuclear plants, so direct heating with waste heat is not an option. Electricity is only very rarely used for heating.
Why would we replace house heating with gas by coal and oil? Where should the oil come from? Arabia and surroundings? What is the point of that? Where would the coal come from? China? Or india or Australia? What would be the point of that?
It makes much more sense to use wind power and produce H2 as replacement for natural gas (which we are actually already doing, the H2 is mixed into the gas grid)
Your concerns about Russia are just because of the stupid fear mongering news in the US. Russia, as a "Putin led government" is playing out its strength in Syria and Ukraine. However Russia as a nation is a capitalist country, and its corporations want to make money.
Going for a war with west Europe would leave Russia crippled for decades ... and for that we don't even need american NATO support nor nukes. There probably would not be any majour Russian corporation left after a brief war with West Europe. Tricky would be stuff like just attacking baltic nations. They are the youngest children in the NATO, and some people fear that the NATO could sacrisfice them, but I doubt that.
Anywax, for 90% of the nations on the globe the situation is the same: they have to import all primary energy resources, and most other natural resources like ores, because they don't have them. And countries like the US import aluminium and steel because their 'ruling class' lacks the pride to keep a functional industry afloat and thinks it makes sense to buy from the cheapest seller on the world market.
You are concerned about Germany and west europe? Well, the USA are going downhill more and more, soon they will only be a tourist attraction, but only briefly, the amount of homeless is scary.
In the case of computers, ephemeral copies created inside of the computers memory for the purpose of displaying the image do not create a discrete copy; computers do not violate copyright by being built with cache, or by having separate main memory and video memory. A physical mirror is an even easier case.
Strange that most courts in the world see that different.
Why do you need a license to run software? Because the computer is copying it from disk to main memory to execute it, same for the contents of a DVD.
Can't be so hard to grasp.
You are again mixing up energy with electricity.
Why do you insist on doing that? If you want to talk about either, use the proper term.
Of course we use about 1/4 nat gas for _energy_ as in heating
So what is your rant about germany importing gas and especially 40% from Russia about? Why do you care? From where else should we import when the best deal right now is offere by Russia?
Germany has no ships big enough to warant a nuclear reactor. And as I said before, if Russia drops out as supplier - for what ever reason - we have enough fallback options, for natural gas.
If Trump does not spoil it, there will never be another war in Europe anyway ...
Software developer ... ... ... ... (probably not in the US, though)
Doctor
Lawyer
Teacher
Your claims may be technically true but it is a lie by omission.
I did not lie or omit anything. The talk and your claims where about electricity, claiming we would import a lot, which is wrong, we are a net exporter.
Germany imports 90%+ of the natural gas they burn.
... uh, actually: everyone knows that.
Germany imports 90%+ of the oil they burn.
Germany imports about half of the coal they burn.
Wow you are a smart ass, I wonder why we germans don't know that
Surprisingly the same is true for nearly every european nation, really surprised?
large portion of that electricity derived from foreign coal and natural gas
Nope, we don't produce much electricity with gas.
By comparison the United States is 80% to 90%+ energy independent and is a net exporter of both oil and coal. ... so we actually don't import that much. Bottom line it does not matter anyway as we plan to be coal free soon.
By comparison the US are 200 times bigger than Germany and happens to have those resources, Germany has only very limited oil and gas and only very expensive hard coal as all the easy one is already mined away since 50 years. Half of the coal we burn is domestic lignite
Germany gets 35% of their electricity from domestic wind, solar, hydro, and biomass. ...
Actually last year it was 38.5% this year it will be above 40%. You probably found links from 2015 or older
So with 40% renewables and 10% nuclear we have about 50% left which is produced with various kinds of coal, and half of that is imported: so 25% of our electricity is produced by imported coal. That does not sound so bad, or does it?
Then you are an idiot ... you can google everything yourself I "claim".
they can't defend themselves from hostile neighbors like Russia if they hold the means to freeze them to death by turning a valve. ... how can you be so stupid is beyond me.
You are really an idiot, aren't you? What happens if Russia stops the gas deliveries to Germany? First off all we have stored gas for about 2 years of usage, secondly we will get our gas from Netherlands, Norway and: we have our own gas
now they are having to ship in nuclear power from France
You seem not to know that France is buying more power from Germany than other way around, however: I told you that already a dozen times, so stop spreading your stupid lies.
We see this happening with Germany. They can't provide for their own energy because they shut down their nuclear power.
Germany produces about 50% more power than it uses, moron. Which is sold to its neighbours or other European countries.
Germany has not shut down its nuclear power, you moron. It is in the process of doing so and has shut down a little bit less than half of it, moron.
Has anyone done a risk analysis on using nuclear power? It turns out lots of people have. We find that nuclear power is the safest energy source we have. How can that be? Because a nuclear power plant can produce 1.21 GW of electricity with a capacity factor exceeding 90% for close to 80 years and very few people are killed or injured.
Capacity factor is irrelevant. You would grasp that if you tried to produce 100% of the power your country consumes with 90% CF plants.
Compare this to wind, solar, and hydro which have a capacity factors around 35% and people still die from industrial accidents in building and maintaining them. Comparing total energy out to people dead means fewer people dead from nuclear power than anything we know of. ... lol.
Sure, and no one ever died in building a nuclear plant, or while mining or refining uranium
It is stuff that matters.
And tech in so far as facial recognition and other tracking techniques are used to put blame/scores on people.
Also note, that China does not officially recognize any religion, therefore
Most nations don't officially recognize a religion, why would they?
According to the Chinese constitution, people are free to follow what ever religion they want, just like in most other nations.
Greece never had anything similar to the "nordic model".
But you are right, the mentality is so different. The greek are trickster/cheaters trying to betray everyone, even each other and it goes so far that you get wrong property tax bills from the tax authorities and you have to go to court to get it fixed (happens mostly to people who freshly inherited some land or old farm, but the tax bills are wrong by a factor of ten or more).
Despite the fact that you got modded several times above +3 in your answers to PopeRatzo: you are just an idiot. And so are your moderators.
Can't be so expensive to fly to Denmark and check for your self, or use google earth.
E.g. I'm not sure how much you'd appreciate your grocery shopping choices
Hae? What? What kind of choices are you talking about? The fact that alcohol is expensive (relatively)? Or the fact that the girl at the cashier is most likely an immigrant and black or brown or asian?
Moron ...