I had the impression you worded it the exact opposite way around before. I actually had to read the article you linked to understand what you mean. Unfortunatley the article has no references to sources if it claims.
I googled a bit around, and find no evidence that any country in the world uses a different definition than a five year surviving time and children died divided by children born. I guess the article you linked is bollocks:)
Tyranny and Socialism comes hand in hand. No it dies not. Socialism relies on tyranny; No it does not.
You are an idiot... Rome was a successful empire for 1500 years, and many of those years were controlled by despots and tyrants, but economic policies were capitalist most of its existence, Not capitalist, bbut based on slavery.
And people had their freedoms: Even if there was some central planning, nothing like welfare, I suggest to google what 'panem et circenses' means.
So in socialist Scandinavia people have no freedom? Rofl...
extensive regulation, or a "basic income". The 'poor' had food and entertainment for free... you can call it what you want, though.
Other posters posted similar statements. But... I googled:) Fourth hit on first page: https://phys.org/news/2011-08-... You have to read the article, first paragraphs...
The difference versus 'getting it back' is that you have a monthly pay check. In other words, if you are e.g. close to broke on a vacation, you get money soon again.
There are no middle men in european health care. In skandinavian countries you are covered automatically, I doubt they even have traditional health insurrances.
In most other european countries you have health insurrance companies and have (limited) options to pick.
You americans are simply completely retarded when the question comes how to organize a society for the better good of all of the citizens.
I suggest to read a damn book and figure which nations invented universal health care in history (not asking first, as we probably don't know who had it first)
Most ancient cultures had universal health care, and no, that is not a youtube conspiracy channel knowledge... (Hint: the old Khmer kingdoms, Egypt under the Pharaos, China till roughly 1700 CE etc. )
I'm so damn tired that the world is held hostage buy a bunch of idiots who happen to have more carries than the rest of the world combined.
If you would look at what you just wrote, amd read it three or four times, and comprehend what you just wrote: then you would realize that most of the world is more strict than the USA.
Anyway, to your favour, I assume your statement is wrong anyway, that USA definition would be a retarded definition.
Greece never was socialist... No idea why people repeat that myth in this thread over and over again. Greece is a country of tricksters since Homer's times. Until the collapse every family had two or more old uncles receiving pension that were long dead... that is not socialism, that is fraud.
Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world. They are the biggest contributor of nurses, doctors, medicals and transportation for other developing countries in the world giving cost free medical aid world wide! Establishing medical schools and universities. You, are damn idiot.
Yeah, the USA might spend more DOLLARS in medical aid in places that need it. However it dwarfs the amount of people treated by several orders of magnitute.
Then again, Cuba had a low economy, why? Because Gods own Country kept them under trade embargoes and tried to force every one else in the world to honour those trade embargos, too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... Scroll to: Easing the embargo. The first ship sailing there in 2014 from the USA, brought... (facepalm)
Did I mention that you are a damn idiot? How many miles away do you live from Cuba that you know nothing about your neighbour country?
Scroll down to: "Cuba and international healthcare" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik..."Cuba provides more medical personnel to the developing world than all the G8 countries combined."
If stupidity would cause pain, you would never awake from your coma again.
Perhaps you should try for yourself. Come to europe and look at the streets in the cities. Then check cities like Columbus, Ohio. That is the state capital. I never have seen a citiy in such bad shape, especially regarding homeless and workless in any of the cities in North Africa or Asia I have been. (But you are probbaly to poor to leave the USA, to live somewhere else for three months, facepalm)
You must live in distorted reality that you think the US citizens have the better deal.
And no matter how you slice it, all medical systems at some point make a cost/benefit tradeoff and let people die. In the US? No idea. In Europe? Most certainly not. The health care system covers everything, if you are 'healthy enough' and the organ is availbale and you are on top of the waiting list, you get it. There is no 'cost benefit analyzis'. A 62 year old retiree, who will never work again in his life, but is healthy enough that a doctor gives him easy +20 or +30 of livespan gets evert fucking treatment available for him, and righfull so. Of course a 99 year old might not get a heart transplant anymore, because he likely would not survive the operation, not because of costs.
Why don't you simply infom yourself how healthcare in Europe works, or developing nations like Thailand, or other asian countries? Can't be so hard... Idiocy and Prejudices.
... they're called North Korea, Venezuela, Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao Zedong's China. Over and over again, history has proven that Socialism is not a path to Utopia.... it is a path to failure and travesty. You seem to pretty uneducated.
In all thise nations the tyranny came first, then the political/social/market system.
And franky if I have to chose if I have to live in a socialist tyrrany or a more capitalist one (Spain, German, Italy) I probably would prefer the socialist one.
It does not work like this, facepalm. Otherwise I would pay my own BI to myself.
Of course it is bottom line payed via taxes, but the most money comes from all bureaucrats safed that otherwise are deciding if a help seeking citizen is eligble for that help or not.
And keep in mind, in most european countries parents get money from the government anyway, first tow children 190 euro, 200 for the third and 220 from the forth on (in germany)
If those kids(parents) simply get BI, the whole government branch looking over distributing that money simply can be closed.
Then again if a single mother is living from social aid, right now she would be stupid to work for some extra money. Because that would be deducted from her social aid. If she receives BI, and can work for some extra 400Euro per month, or lets say 800Euro, then she would pay taxes, and contribute to the system. And against popular believe: a company hirering her likely makes more profit with her, than without her. Otherwise the job would not exist in the first place. Hence the company payes more taxes, too.
Plenty of taxes are not payed because the companies and workforce can not come together to make that work that would lead to profit for all involved parties.
In the end some taxes like VAT, tobacco or alcohol tax might be increased. But why should a non smoker care if the evil smoker has to pay more tobacco tax?
E.g. they have very special toilets: they are filled with water so high that when you poo, your shit is just gliding into it without making a sound or a splat. (probably close to 3 gallons... roughly translating litters to gallons in my mind)
So what are they doing? Obviously first before you go to the toilette, you flush first. Using another 5 gallons to flush away the 3 already inside of the toilette. Then you do your business. Then you flush twice.
They need 15 gallons of water for a single toilette visit. In Germany that would be perhaps 3 or 4.
And obviously they don't reuse the water for agriculture but let it run (after treatment?) into the ocean.
As I pointed out in a raciest post years ago in another thread, people in those regions are pretty dumb.
Dumb in a very special way: 1) they often have very high education, e.g. Oxford or Cambridge. 2) they are not innovative 3) business only is done in traditional areas: tourism, banking, oil, etc. 4) business is only done with relatives or 'friends' or 'friends' of relatives
No one is sitting there and thinking: "oh, how could we solve this problem?". To make them build a solar powered desalination plant in the desert, you need to go there and "befriend" one of the Sheiks. Make him a business proposal. Explain him how it benefits him, etc. p.p.
A typical rich Aristocrat there will simply buy a gold plated iPhone in diamond dust to show you: "I'm to dumb to know what to do with my money, but see: this is a 'one of a kind'. I payed a million so that the guy making it, makes never again such a thing"
I could go on and go on...
They are intelligent in the sense that they are as intelligent as normal people are, and have an education and also knowledge and probably even phantasy like everyone else, well education top of the pop. But: they have no clue how to use that, unless it is running the old business that they inherit, oil, banks etc.
If I was born there, I mean with my mind and knowledge, I had started 30 years ago to literally transform the arabic peninsula into a paradise. It is so damn easy and the people there are so damn dumb, it is unbelievable.
It is probably about power... the mighty have the power and the poor have not... probably such simple.
Let's pretend that mining engineering and stonemasonry doesn't exist, hat we don't artificially shape rock every day, and that we literally cannot be bothered to reduce drag when we push large objects through water... Lets pretend, you are not such an idiot as you try to display to us. Please calculate the amount of energy/fuel needed to drag a hull shaped ice berg from Antarctica to UAE.
For fuck sake, the parent calculated down what the minimum energy is if you assume "an impossible" spherical shape.
How dump can one be to make an argument about the "sphere"????
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According to the links I posted, WHO and basically every health organization on the planet?
I had the impression you worded it the exact opposite way around before.
I actually had to read the article you linked to understand what you mean.
Unfortunatley the article has no references to sources if it claims.
I googled a bit around, and find no evidence that any country in the world uses a different definition than a five year surviving time and children died divided by children born. :)
I guess the article you linked is bollocks
Tyranny and Socialism comes hand in hand.
No it dies not.
Socialism relies on tyranny;
No it does not.
You are an idiot ...
Rome was a successful empire for 1500 years, and many of those years were controlled by despots and tyrants, but
economic policies were capitalist most of its existence, Not capitalist, bbut based on slavery.
And people had their freedoms: Even if there was some central planning, nothing like welfare,
I suggest to google what 'panem et circenses' means.
So in socialist Scandinavia people have no freedom? Rofl ...
extensive regulation, or a "basic income". ... you can call it what you want, though.
The 'poor' had food and entertainment for free
Other posters posted similar statements. ... I googled :) Fourth hit on first page: ...
But
https://phys.org/news/2011-08-...
You have to read the article, first paragraphs
Beethove became deaf during his work. He was not deaf when he started to compose ...
Care to explain? /me leaning back and rolling thumbs
That was because the biggest bank in Switzerland is called UBI. ... ...
The same bank that brought the nightmare of design patterns on us
Just saying
Good to know that I don't have to bother to invite you for a beer.
The difference versus 'getting it back' is that you have a monthly pay check.
In other words, if you are e.g. close to broke on a vacation, you get money soon again.
UBI ... Its called "welfare" and we have it now.
Which part of the U did you not grasp yet?
There are no middle men in european health care.
In skandinavian countries you are covered automatically, I doubt they even have traditional health insurrances.
In most other european countries you have health insurrance companies and have (limited) options to pick.
You americans are simply completely retarded when the question comes how to organize a society for the better good of all of the citizens.
I suggest to read a damn book and figure which nations invented universal health care in history (not asking first, as we probably don't know who had it first)
Most ancient cultures had universal health care, and no, that is not a youtube conspiracy channel knowledge ... (Hint: the old Khmer kingdoms, Egypt under the Pharaos, China till roughly 1700 CE etc. )
I'm so damn tired that the world is held hostage buy a bunch of idiots who happen to have more carries than the rest of the world combined.
If you would look at what you just wrote, amd read it three or four times, and comprehend what you just wrote: then you would realize that most of the world is more strict than the USA.
Anyway, to your favour, I assume your statement is wrong anyway, that USA definition would be a retarded definition.
Greece never was socialist ... ... that is not socialism, that is fraud.
No idea why people repeat that myth in this thread over and over again.
Greece is a country of tricksters since Homer's times.
Until the collapse every family had two or more old uncles receiving pension that were long dead
Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world.
They are the biggest contributor of nurses, doctors, medicals and transportation for other developing countries in the world giving cost free medical aid world wide! Establishing medical schools and universities. You, are damn idiot.
Yeah, the USA might spend more DOLLARS in medical aid in places that need it. However it dwarfs the amount of people treated by several orders of magnitute.
Then again, Cuba had a low economy, why? ... (facepalm)
Because Gods own Country kept them under trade embargoes and tried to force every one else in the world to honour those trade embargos, too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
Scroll to: Easing the embargo.
The first ship sailing there in 2014 from the USA, brought
Did I mention that you are a damn idiot? How many miles away do you live from Cuba that you know nothing about your neighbour country?
Scroll down to: "Cuba and international healthcare"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... "Cuba provides more medical personnel to the developing world than all the G8 countries combined."
If stupidity would cause pain, you would never awake from your coma again.
Perhaps you should try for yourself.
Come to europe and look at the streets in the cities.
Then check cities like Columbus, Ohio.
That is the state capital. I never have seen a citiy in such bad shape, especially regarding homeless and workless in any of the cities in North Africa or Asia I have been.
(But you are probbaly to poor to leave the USA, to live somewhere else for three months, facepalm)
You must live in distorted reality that you think the US citizens have the better deal.
And no matter how you slice it, all medical systems at some point make a cost/benefit tradeoff and let people die.
In the US? No idea.
In Europe? Most certainly not. The health care system covers everything, if you are 'healthy enough' and the organ is availbale and you are on top of the waiting list, you get it. There is no 'cost benefit analyzis'.
A 62 year old retiree, who will never work again in his life, but is healthy enough that a doctor gives him easy +20 or +30 of livespan gets evert fucking treatment available for him, and righfull so.
Of course a 99 year old might not get a heart transplant anymore, because he likely would not survive the operation, not because of costs.
Why don't you simply infom yourself how healthcare in Europe works, or developing nations like Thailand, or other asian countries? Can't be so hard ... Idiocy and Prejudices.
... they're called North Korea, Venezuela, Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao Zedong's China. Over and over again, history has proven that Socialism is not a path to Utopia.... it is a path to failure and travesty.
You seem to pretty uneducated.
In all thise nations the tyranny came first, then the political/social/market system.
And franky if I have to chose if I have to live in a socialist tyrrany or a more capitalist one (Spain, German, Italy) I probably would prefer the socialist one.
It does not work like this, facepalm.
Otherwise I would pay my own BI to myself.
Of course it is bottom line payed via taxes, but the most money comes from all bureaucrats safed that otherwise are deciding if a help seeking citizen is eligble for that help or not.
And keep in mind, in most european countries parents get money from the government anyway, first tow children 190 euro, 200 for the third and 220 from the forth on (in germany)
If those kids(parents) simply get BI, the whole government branch looking over distributing that money simply can be closed.
Then again if a single mother is living from social aid, right now she would be stupid to work for some extra money. Because that would be deducted from her social aid. If she receives BI, and can work for some extra 400Euro per month, or lets say 800Euro, then she would pay taxes, and contribute to the system. And against popular believe: a company hirering her likely makes more profit with her, than without her. Otherwise the job would not exist in the first place. Hence the company payes more taxes, too.
Plenty of taxes are not payed because the companies and workforce can not come together to make that work that would lead to profit for all involved parties.
In the end some taxes like VAT, tobacco or alcohol tax might be increased. But why should a non smoker care if the evil smoker has to pay more tobacco tax?
Welcome back then when we have indeed breaking news regarding fusion :)
In the UAE water is a status symbol.
E.g. they have very special toilets: they are filled with water so high that when you poo, your shit is just gliding into it without making a sound or a splat. (probably close to 3 gallons ... roughly translating litters to gallons in my mind)
So what are they doing? Obviously first before you go to the toilette, you flush first. Using another 5 gallons to flush away the 3 already inside of the toilette. Then you do your business. Then you flush twice.
They need 15 gallons of water for a single toilette visit. In Germany that would be perhaps 3 or 4.
And obviously they don't reuse the water for agriculture but let it run (after treatment?) into the ocean.
He ment: "Whats To Funny?" A simple typo :D
Exactly, me too! Just answered to a different post.
And the arabs had that idea actually 40 years ago ...
I learned that as a child and I wonder if I actually was 10 already or learned it before.
As I pointed out in a raciest post years ago in another thread, people in those regions are pretty dumb.
Dumb in a very special way:
1) they often have very high education, e.g. Oxford or Cambridge.
2) they are not innovative
3) business only is done in traditional areas: tourism, banking, oil, etc.
4) business is only done with relatives or 'friends' or 'friends' of relatives
No one is sitting there and thinking: "oh, how could we solve this problem?".
To make them build a solar powered desalination plant in the desert, you need to go there and "befriend" one of the Sheiks. Make him a business proposal. Explain him how it benefits him, etc. p.p.
A typical rich Aristocrat there will simply buy a gold plated iPhone in diamond dust to show you: "I'm to dumb to know what to do with my money, but see: this is a 'one of a kind'. I payed a million so that the guy making it, makes never again such a thing"
I could go on and go on ...
They are intelligent in the sense that they are as intelligent as normal people are, and have an education and also knowledge and probably even phantasy like everyone else, well education top of the pop. But: they have no clue how to use that, unless it is running the old business that they inherit, oil, banks etc.
If I was born there, I mean with my mind and knowledge, I had started 30 years ago to literally transform the arabic peninsula into a paradise. It is so damn easy and the people there are so damn dumb, it is unbelievable.
It is probably about power ... the mighty have the power and the poor have not ... probably such simple.
Let's pretend that mining engineering and stonemasonry doesn't exist, hat we don't artificially shape rock every day, and that we literally cannot be bothered to reduce drag when we push large objects through water...
Lets pretend, you are not such an idiot as you try to display to us.
Please calculate the amount of energy/fuel needed to drag a hull shaped ice berg from Antarctica to UAE.
For fuck sake, the parent calculated down what the minimum energy is if you assume "an impossible" spherical shape.
How dump can one be to make an argument about the "sphere"????
Your turn, give us your numbers or be silent.