Maybe iNTEL is buying a judge to try to stop AMD and NVIDIA from getting together?
There's a timing problem there, but since one would assume a corrupt corporation trying engaging in court warfare as a defense against that other suit, one can't be sure that the timing problem is not being ignored.
(And, yes, I do suspect iNTEL of doing exactly what AMD says they do in that other suit, which is why I won't by iNTEL's CPUs, and why I'm not buying Macs any more. I do put my money where my mouth is.)
Currently, everyone is saying only re-count when there is a question.
I say we should plan reduncancy: count by machine to get a quick count, then always count by hand afterwards in every precinct, to check the machine.
If the discrepancy will alter the result, or if it is large, start an audit, and once the audit is complete and all ballots classified as valid, invalid, and unknown, count them all by both hand and machine and let a judge straighten it out.
The best we can do is try to avoid adding ways to fix the vote, which means refraining from trying to improve on what works.
The voter marks the ballot by hand, and the ballot is the paper trail. End of story.
I can understand wanting to help voters who aren't physically able to mark ballots accurately, but the voters who just don't value their votes enough to mark their ballots carefully, well, their votes aren't going to end up counting for much anyway. I guess the more polite way to say it is that, in our effort to help the voter, we should focus on the voters who actually need help, and be careful not to be wasting time on stuff that will only help those who refuse to help themselves.
more expensive, but mostly a vulnerability point for stuffing the ballot boxes.
Ballots should be pre-printed.
The machine for the blind voter to remove the dependancy on a sighted person who might subvert the vote should simply fill in the circles on the pre-printed ballot, to avoid printing ballots on-site.
Come to think of it, even having machines for the blind is problematic. I'm not sure if I were a blind person whether I'd prefer to trust a human friend or a machine I couldn't see designed and built by people who might want to steal my vote. I guess the only protection here is the assumption that votes by blind persons are few enough to not be worth stealing.
Other than that, your short analysis is about as good as a short analysis gets.
Number one, the ATM only handles money. If your ability to vote a valid vote is not more valuable than money, you don't have a proper appreciation of freedom.
Number two, the ATMs do leave a paper trail. Even if you tell the bank you don't want to see it every month, you can check your account to see if it matches what you've put in and taken out. If you don't keep track of your account balance, you deserve to have your bank account 0wn3d by script kiddies.
Number three, I avoid using ATMs, especially in foreign countries.
Number four, I've probably just been trolled, and even the person who marked the parent post insightful was probably doing so in the ironic sense.
low frequency, long wavelength, severe attenuation (without which the whole concept of transmitting power would be meaningless), but not a perfect cutoff. The world is not binary, attenuation is not equivalent to a switch. And some people's bodies are more sensitive to electricity than others'.
I am familiar with her former neighbors' situation -- fairly affluent neighborhood, the residents of the houses in question are not poor.
I'm a bit surprised at how rabidly knee-jerk the reactions here have been. It's not like the validity of the entire scientific method is riding on this question, and if it were, then the scientific method would have zip on any other religious protocol. (And this kind of defense of a third person implementation of any method of any sort, scientific or otherwise, reeks of religion in the worst senses.)
Institutions that use them as passwords ought to be liable for the resultant misuse, and I guess many of them have pretty much decided the liability is cheaper than implementing the proper use.
It occurs to me that, with money this loose, basing the economy on money makes less and less sense.
Probably, the best solution is to return to making everyone grow their own food, and giving up trying to manage value through banks and financial regulation.
My wife tells me that houses adjacent to high potential transmission towers in Japan are generally cheaper than others, and have been for years because of reports that cancer rates for people living under them are higher. There's a long (100 meter by 10 meter, enough for about twenty expensive single-family homes) tract of very expensive land empty under one section of transmission wire near where I live, apparently because of health concerns.
Apparently, the concerns about power transmission lines here in Japan are considered common sense in some sectors.
make all the difference in the world, in spite of what the RIAA and MPAA and their ilk say.
Reading and enforcing electronically? you underestimate the complexity of your mind. It's a bit more complex even than true context sensitive grammars.
because of arrogant Americans like Bill Gates behaving in the international market in ways that induce enough discontent that some of the extremely discontented actually went to the trouble of blowing up themselves along with more than 3000 non-combatants working in one of the larger symbols of said arrogance.
If we really want to solve the problems in Iraq, including the ones we are now causing and making worse, we absolutely have to fix certain problems at home. That includes deposing a lot of our favorite purveyors of patronage.
Second, the way the insurance companies have fixed the laws, it might as well be. Look around you at the problems with health care and magnify them about twice and that's what nationalized health care will give you at it's absolute best.
Yeah, I've seen nationalized health care in the only socialist country that's ever been able to get socialism close to right. How do the Japanese get it right? Enforcement by word-of-mouth. The laws look like socialism until you recognize that the laws have no claws, no teeth. It works because the people help it work. The reason things are going south in the US is because too many people there are deciding they want their piece of whatever mirage it is Hollywood is selling. And the more the Japanese buy into Hollywood's illusions, the farther things go south here.
Informed self-interest and greed are two completely different things. Almost any form of government that allows the former to work will work if the people use it. The latter will destroy any form of government when too many of the people go that way.
No, socialism doesn't solve problems. Responsible people solve problems. Well, they solve more than they create. Irresponsible people create more problems than they solve. That is pretty much independent of the form of government.
But when you try to make the nation responsible for health care, you would seem to be kind of implicitly trying to make people non-responsible for their own health. To me that seems kind of counter-productive.
Let's start by undoing the laws that give insurance companies so much special treatment.
Thought can be heavily influenced, can even be forced to a certain extent.
My thoughts can't be owned.
If yours can be, that's your fault for letting yourself believe the illusion for not having the courage to recognize that you cannot think another person's thoughts, only think your closest interpretation thereof. Any real match is as much accidental as intentional, and only exists in the moment.
Doesn't change, no matter how many lawyers start jabbering away at it.
Thoughts can't be owned.
People who misunderstand this fact seem to be at the base of all the worst abuses, both in macro an micro society. But you can't get into my head and I can't get into yours. You will think what you will, I will think what I will. (And you will think what you will about what you think I think you think I think you think... .;-) Attempts to restrict other people's thoughts are at best exercises in self-frustration. If you think you want to control what someone else is thinking and doing, look to yourself first. Are you even controlling your own thoughts and acts?
What we call intellectual property is actually a claim on certain social artifacts, ergo market segments, etc. And since both the UK and the US are supposed to have given up patronage, giving a claim on a piece of the market anything close to a permanent status runs awfully close to treason.
If you understand the problems yourself, you'll have a better chance of helping them understand.
As a number of people have pointed out already, focusing on logging off in conversations here seems to indicate that you don't understand the problems yourself.
If you are talking about logging off after using a public terminal (library, starbucks, whatever), yeah, logging off is important. If they have people around the house who might do nasty things when their backs are turned, logging off is only a stop gap, and indeed might provoke a physical assault on the machine. (I don't mean with a hammer, I mean something like inserting a live CD on boot.)
If, by talking about logging off you mean to talk about making non-admin accounts and using those for ordinary work, well, let's think about that. Do you mean they should make individual accounts for every member of the family? I suppose that's appropriate for some families, but most families will be just fine with a single non-admin "us" or "fambunch" or even "family" account. make the account name interesting and there may be less initial resistance to using it.
Since they're asking you to set things up, go ahead and make the account, and move their bookmarks, mail, and other documents into the account's directories (changing the file owner as you do, of course, so they can access their stuff after the move). Change the admin password and don't tell them what it is. Clear all their stuff out of the admin account, to reduce temptation to use it. Etc. (In fact, I'd probably a new admin account, and back the old admin account up and delete it.)
Of course, if you're using Japanese, non-admin accounts may not work on their boxes. (Still do not know why, but one MSWxp workstation I was assigned was like that. Try to use Japanese from a non-admin account and the thing would freeze.)
Anyway, in the usual home, the password itself is primarily for keeping intruders from logging in from the web should they manage to breach the firewall.
The issue of not using the admin account is separate, and others have addressed that, I think.
Now, concerning the "internet for dummies" guide, what one finds condescending, another finds friendly. You know them as well as anyone, you're the best person to be able to figure out how to explain things, but it requires (again) understanding. People are more interesting than machines. Open you ears and eyes and listen to what they're telling you and you'll find the answers to how to explain without confusing or irritating them. But it does take many tries, and that's where patience comes in. You have to be patient both with them and with yourself. Think of it as a compiler for an unknown language, when your input is met with error messages, try something else.
As far as the jargon goes, I don't think I'd try to teach them the jargon. Definitely not all at once. The don't need to know the word trojan, or even virus, to understand that a "program" attached to an e-mail message might include stuff that instructs the computer to do bad things.
Applied lessons work. Let (make?) them watch you sift through their spam for real messages a few times. (In a non-admin account, of course.) Drop a spam with an attachment that looks viral on the desktop and open it with a text editor. Show them the headers and explain it in terms of snail-mail, envelope (which they don't actually see), address, return address. Show them the numeric addresses. Explain how the Sender address being a different domain from the domain of the server it's actually sent from can indicate that someone is trying to hide the true origin. The why generally explains itself, so don't dwell on that. Then look at the virus package in a binary editor and show them the execution offsets. Say, "This is where you see that this thing is intended to run something."
Don't belabor too many points at once. If your message exceeds two minutes, you've probably already lost them. One point understood this time, a different point the next ti
is, much to my disgust, considering DST. I think my wife said they were calling it natsunojikan. She doesn't care for the idea, but doesn't get up in arms about it either. (Lousy Japanese attitude of trusting the guys in charge.)
She also said that the initial experiments were in Hokkaido, and that the farmers up there are really impressed with it. They seem to think it gives them extra hours to work.
I have to admit, though, I find DST much less disgusting than e-voting.
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Maybe iNTEL is buying a judge to try to stop AMD and NVIDIA from getting together?
There's a timing problem there, but since one would assume a corrupt corporation trying engaging in court warfare as a defense against that other suit, one can't be sure that the timing problem is not being ignored.
(And, yes, I do suspect iNTEL of doing exactly what AMD says they do in that other suit, which is why I won't by iNTEL's CPUs, and why I'm not buying Macs any more. I do put my money where my mouth is.)
What the filth?
then paper would be no more verifiable, I suppose. Maybe.
Currently, everyone is saying only re-count when there is a question.
I say we should plan reduncancy: count by machine to get a quick count, then always count by hand afterwards in every precinct, to check the machine.
If the discrepancy will alter the result, or if it is large, start an audit, and once the audit is complete and all ballots classified as valid, invalid, and unknown, count them all by both hand and machine and let a judge straighten it out.
The best we can do is try to avoid adding ways to fix the vote, which means refraining from trying to improve on what works.
The voter marks the ballot by hand, and the ballot is the paper trail. End of story.
I can understand wanting to help voters who aren't physically able to mark ballots accurately, but the voters who just don't value their votes enough to mark their ballots carefully, well, their votes aren't going to end up counting for much anyway. I guess the more polite way to say it is that, in our effort to help the voter, we should focus on the voters who actually need help, and be careful not to be wasting time on stuff that will only help those who refuse to help themselves.
more expensive, but mostly a vulnerability point for stuffing the ballot boxes.
Ballots should be pre-printed.
The machine for the blind voter to remove the dependancy on a sighted person who might subvert the vote should simply fill in the circles on the pre-printed ballot, to avoid printing ballots on-site.
Come to think of it, even having machines for the blind is problematic. I'm not sure if I were a blind person whether I'd prefer to trust a human friend or a machine I couldn't see designed and built by people who might want to steal my vote. I guess the only protection here is the assumption that votes by blind persons are few enough to not be worth stealing.
Other than that, your short analysis is about as good as a short analysis gets.
obvious idiocies.
Number one, the ATM only handles money. If your ability to vote a valid vote is not more valuable than money, you don't have a proper appreciation of freedom.
Number two, the ATMs do leave a paper trail. Even if you tell the bank you don't want to see it every month, you can check your account to see if it matches what you've put in and taken out. If you don't keep track of your account balance, you deserve to have your bank account 0wn3d by script kiddies.
Number three, I avoid using ATMs, especially in foreign countries.
Number four, I've probably just been trolled, and even the person who marked the parent post insightful was probably doing so in the ironic sense.
low frequency, long wavelength, severe attenuation (without which the whole concept of transmitting power would be meaningless), but not a perfect cutoff. The world is not binary, attenuation is not equivalent to a switch. And some people's bodies are more sensitive to electricity than others'.
the cases my wife invokes are not as you suspect.
I am familiar with her former neighbors' situation -- fairly affluent neighborhood, the residents of the houses in question are not poor.
I'm a bit surprised at how rabidly knee-jerk the reactions here have been. It's not like the validity of the entire scientific method is riding on this question, and if it were, then the scientific method would have zip on any other religious protocol. (And this kind of defense of a third person implementation of any method of any sort, scientific or otherwise, reeks of religion in the worst senses.)
Institutions that use them as passwords ought to be liable for the resultant misuse, and I guess many of them have pretty much decided the liability is cheaper than implementing the proper use.
It occurs to me that, with money this loose, basing the economy on money makes less and less sense.
Probably, the best solution is to return to making everyone grow their own food, and giving up trying to manage value through banks and financial regulation.
definitely can be fatal.
My wife tells me that houses adjacent to high potential transmission towers in Japan are generally cheaper than others, and have been for years because of reports that cancer rates for people living under them are higher. There's a long (100 meter by 10 meter, enough for about twenty expensive single-family homes) tract of very expensive land empty under one section of transmission wire near where I live, apparently because of health concerns.
Apparently, the concerns about power transmission lines here in Japan are considered common sense in some sectors.
The proper conclusion is that it costs much more to fail to train your sysadmins.
The admin jobs that work out cheaper on MSWindows are actually lack of admin in a lot of cases, too.
Well, if I recall correctly, it means that iNTEL is hot on IBM's heels, or maybe a year behind or so in nanotubes.
Maybe my memory is bad, though.
tech.
Was. Until now.
But your comments about great games? Chess? Mahjongg? Sarcasm?
make all the difference in the world, in spite of what the RIAA and MPAA and their ilk say.
Reading and enforcing electronically? you underestimate the complexity of your mind. It's a bit more complex even than true context sensitive grammars.
because of arrogant Americans like Bill Gates behaving in the international market in ways that induce enough discontent that some of the extremely discontented actually went to the trouble of blowing up themselves along with more than 3000 non-combatants working in one of the larger symbols of said arrogance.
If we really want to solve the problems in Iraq, including the ones we are now causing and making worse, we absolutely have to fix certain problems at home. That includes deposing a lot of our favorite purveyors of patronage.
by individuals willing to put up with a little lack of comfort to protect their rights to put up with a little lack of comfort.
Does it help if I put it that way?
Changing what you call it without changing the prices does not change the effect.
In fact, this is more damaging because it takes the small players out of the hardware market as well.
What on earth is the excuse for bulk pricing for OS software?
First, no thanks.
Second, the way the insurance companies have fixed the laws, it might as well be. Look around you at the problems with health care and magnify them about twice and that's what nationalized health care will give you at it's absolute best.
Yeah, I've seen nationalized health care in the only socialist country that's ever been able to get socialism close to right. How do the Japanese get it right? Enforcement by word-of-mouth. The laws look like socialism until you recognize that the laws have no claws, no teeth. It works because the people help it work. The reason things are going south in the US is because too many people there are deciding they want their piece of whatever mirage it is Hollywood is selling. And the more the Japanese buy into Hollywood's illusions, the farther things go south here.
Informed self-interest and greed are two completely different things. Almost any form of government that allows the former to work will work if the people use it. The latter will destroy any form of government when too many of the people go that way.
No, socialism doesn't solve problems. Responsible people solve problems. Well, they solve more than they create. Irresponsible people create more problems than they solve. That is pretty much independent of the form of government.
But when you try to make the nation responsible for health care, you would seem to be kind of implicitly trying to make people non-responsible for their own health. To me that seems kind of counter-productive.
Let's start by undoing the laws that give insurance companies so much special treatment.
Thought can be heavily influenced, can even be forced to a certain extent.
My thoughts can't be owned.
If yours can be, that's your fault for letting yourself believe the illusion for not having the courage to recognize that you cannot think another person's thoughts, only think your closest interpretation thereof. Any real match is as much accidental as intentional, and only exists in the moment.
You can find it at realsoftware.
Used to be free as in beer on Linux, but doesn't seem to be any more.
Doesn't change, no matter how many lawyers start jabbering away at it.
... . ;-) Attempts to restrict other people's thoughts are at best exercises in self-frustration. If you think you want to control what someone else is thinking and doing, look to yourself first. Are you even controlling your own thoughts and acts?
Thoughts can't be owned.
People who misunderstand this fact seem to be at the base of all the worst abuses, both in macro an micro society. But you can't get into my head and I can't get into yours. You will think what you will, I will think what I will. (And you will think what you will about what you think I think you think I think you think
What we call intellectual property is actually a claim on certain social artifacts, ergo market segments, etc. And since both the UK and the US are supposed to have given up patronage, giving a claim on a piece of the market anything close to a permanent status runs awfully close to treason.
If you understand the problems yourself, you'll have a better chance of helping them understand.
As a number of people have pointed out already, focusing on logging off in conversations here seems to indicate that you don't understand the problems yourself.
If you are talking about logging off after using a public terminal (library, starbucks, whatever), yeah, logging off is important. If they have people around the house who might do nasty things when their backs are turned, logging off is only a stop gap, and indeed might provoke a physical assault on the machine. (I don't mean with a hammer, I mean something like inserting a live CD on boot.)
If, by talking about logging off you mean to talk about making non-admin accounts and using those for ordinary work, well, let's think about that. Do you mean they should make individual accounts for every member of the family? I suppose that's appropriate for some families, but most families will be just fine with a single non-admin "us" or "fambunch" or even "family" account. make the account name interesting and there may be less initial resistance to using it.
Since they're asking you to set things up, go ahead and make the account, and move their bookmarks, mail, and other documents into the account's directories (changing the file owner as you do, of course, so they can access their stuff after the move). Change the admin password and don't tell them what it is. Clear all their stuff out of the admin account, to reduce temptation to use it. Etc. (In fact, I'd probably a new admin account, and back the old admin account up and delete it.)
Of course, if you're using Japanese, non-admin accounts may not work on their boxes. (Still do not know why, but one MSWxp workstation I was assigned was like that. Try to use Japanese from a non-admin account and the thing would freeze.)
Anyway, in the usual home, the password itself is primarily for keeping intruders from logging in from the web should they manage to breach the firewall.
The issue of not using the admin account is separate, and others have addressed that, I think.
Now, concerning the "internet for dummies" guide, what one finds condescending, another finds friendly. You know them as well as anyone, you're the best person to be able to figure out how to explain things, but it requires (again) understanding. People are more interesting than machines. Open you ears and eyes and listen to what they're telling you and you'll find the answers to how to explain without confusing or irritating them. But it does take many tries, and that's where patience comes in. You have to be patient both with them and with yourself. Think of it as a compiler for an unknown language, when your input is met with error messages, try something else.
As far as the jargon goes, I don't think I'd try to teach them the jargon. Definitely not all at once. The don't need to know the word trojan, or even virus, to understand that a "program" attached to an e-mail message might include stuff that instructs the computer to do bad things.
Applied lessons work. Let (make?) them watch you sift through their spam for real messages a few times. (In a non-admin account, of course.) Drop a spam with an attachment that looks viral on the desktop and open it with a text editor. Show them the headers and explain it in terms of snail-mail, envelope (which they don't actually see), address, return address. Show them the numeric addresses. Explain how the Sender address being a different domain from the domain of the server it's actually sent from can indicate that someone is trying to hide the true origin. The why generally explains itself, so don't dwell on that. Then look at the virus package in a binary editor and show them the execution offsets. Say, "This is where you see that this thing is intended to run something."
Don't belabor too many points at once. If your message exceeds two minutes, you've probably already lost them. One point understood this time, a different point the next ti
is, much to my disgust, considering DST. I think my wife said they were calling it natsunojikan. She doesn't care for the idea, but doesn't get up in arms about it either. (Lousy Japanese attitude of trusting the guys in charge.)
She also said that the initial experiments were in Hokkaido, and that the farmers up there are really impressed with it. They seem to think it gives them extra hours to work.
I have to admit, though, I find DST much less disgusting than e-voting.