I don't know if it had anything to do with a political viewpoint.... Did you read the transcript?
What John was saying is that they were deliberately disguising political "debate" as song and dance. And frankly, "one of their own" is the most qualified to call them on it.
Yes, I know of these beings that take the Daily Show seriously. In fact, I watch the show because I have no reservation whatsoever about having an opinion shoved down my throat, I'm just there to laugh.
This is coming from a person who avoids Television News at all cost.
As for the attack, I know I would have made it much earlier. The show is about "the issues" and "debate", but as soon as he started giving them some, they gave him the filibuster. Translation: criticism is fine as long as it's not directed at them.
Fox, CBS, etc., may have bias. Bias keeps like-minded people coming back, raking in advertising dollars.
It's like when NBC or whoever makes Friends puts out an ad that says "So and So gets Married to so and so, but is he going to reconsider the night before they get married?"
Now, if I don't follow the show Friends, this is incoherent babble to me. However, for the gigantic base of avid Friends-watchers, this puts a little reminder in their head to "Be home at 8pm on Friday night." They'll tell their friends about it when they are asked to go out, and maybe their friends will tune in as well, enjoy the show, and be there to catch the next ad.
Does it make sense now? NPR runs blocks of liberal hosts, conservative hosts, middle of the road hosts, etc. E! used to run video clips of the Howard Stern show, and being an avid listener of it I would occasionally tune in to see what in the hell was really going on. I could care less about watching it on a regular basis.
PBS has it too, although it's seriously downplayed. At the end of the show you get a thick list of sponsors. Nothing fancy, but it's there.
Also, those who watch the show regularily are more likely to contribute come fundraiser time, and more likely to vote on measures which increase tax-based contribution.
PBS is money-motivated as well. It's hard to say what organization isn't merely because it's not an advantageous position for most (especially those in the position to do so.. despite what any of you might think, making and keeping vast sums of money is less luck and influence and more ingenuity) to liquidate funds to provide a service with no return.
That's not the problem, however. It's the public's desire to see shows like this that cause them to be brought to life. After all, even though PBS may be free, we're still voting with our eyes.
On media fact-correction, I would gladly buy any newspaper that replaced the front page with a list of retractions from the previous issues. Even if they were the biggest biased pieces of shit, that alone would at least tell me their representation is based on facts.
Really, you should try leaving the coffee shop for a few hours, loosen your tie, and you know, have a drink and relax. It's really sad to see people so focused on detail that they miss the big picture in life.
And really, what would it solve? Like the parent said, a keylogger is pointless and a traffic logger is pretty close to it if encryption is properly applied (and I assume with the fanfare IM generates...).
I mean, everyone can break out and say "there's a loophole in the encryption!", but until I see it, I'll feel comfortable using ssh and PGP. Besides, if someone really wants to know what you're doing, they'll find out regardless.
One of the things that makes the Mac so "hands-off" is it's limited driver set.
Ever had a Windows driver go belly-up on you? How about Linux? It's so rare on the mac that when it happens (as was the case a few weeks ago with the G5 firmware update) it's a huge stink on all the mac sites.
Now think about it. Allllllll those drivers, allllll that code, allllll that hardware for x86. Apple doesn't have the resources to do that, heck, Microsoft barely did when they wrote '95, and immediately after that they pretty much laid down the law with hardware manufacturers that they had to write their own drivers.
Mac OS X is pretty mature these days and I wonder if Apple is ready or willing to risk that perception.
I really think it has less to do with controlling hardware or anything like that. Generally if something goes wrong in the OS on the Mac, it's bad hardware - almost always guaranteed these days.
It's not really "bells and whistles", that's a common mistake that many people (including me in the past) make when thinking about what the mac can do.
AppleScript may look like a dumb language, but I've never seen VB do what it can do to a desktop, and there's certainly no comparison on linux. Need to add a feature to your favorite app? You can normally do it with little pain and the Script Editor. If there's not API support for it, you can always just write a script that controls the GUI directly.
I also have always been a big fan of the dock concept, but WindowMaker really doesn't do it justice - it's not really WM's fault, either. The fact that when you have 10 copies of FireFox open they are joined at the hip by the OS makes the dock concept that much more powerful. Alt-tab to the firefox app, alt-` to cycle firefox windows only.
I could go on, because there are tons of "little things" that make it so nice. After all, when was the last time you installed your OS and everything worked as expected on first boot?
I mean, how can you knock a movie with Dan Ackroyd in it?.... Oh, I thought you were talking about another shitty movie where a bunch of people click on a horribly over-animated and under-powered "interface" and talk technobabble while referring to it all as being a part of the "network".
I don't know what's funnier, watching those movies, or hearing "experts" talk about how "accurate" it is. You know, like the guys that cheered Trinity on when she used ssh or nmap or whatever in Matrix 2. "Holy crap! It's a terminal! IN a movie! And it's running a real program! Where in the heck did they come up with the budget for that?!"
Quick! Quick! Get the floppy in the mac to upload the virus to cause immense catastophe! Go Sandra Go!
Besides, it's North Korea that isn't controlled by a U.S. Shadow Government.
One thing *is* amazing though - those "computer" scenes in those movies can be done by any 14yo with a pirated copy of Macromedia Flash these days. Think of what those movie wankers paid to get that same quality.
Uh... All timely, right decisions too. Your point?
If they come up with a "commodity processor" based on Itanium (you know, like the PII was for the PPro), it might do well.
That said, I was building servers and teching machines when the PII came out. Before that (and for some time after), we installed PPro's in servers. The only dumbasses who bought PPro's for their workstations were trustafarians and scary geeks who constantly had a stain of cheeto crust on their fingers and needed "the best money could buy".
Of course 64-bit software runs faster than 32-bit software on the same architecture. That was my point. However, 64-bit is certainly not a panacea and gathering from your knowledge, you certainly know that too. Software has to be coded for it (unless your C compiler ignores 'register' keywords when it runs out) - a simple recompile is rarely the proper solution.
Buying a Xeon to play games is pure idiocy as far as I can see, or at least someone with way too much money to blow on a hobby.
On one hand, it's hard to blame you for your ignorance.
On the other hand, people who thought the N64 was hot because it was "64-bit" so they can sound "tech" explains a lot of my disdain for people like you.:)
64-bit will make your programs slower as there is more work that needs to be done for each operation, especially the math-light ones like opening that spreadsheet program or playing gunbound.
32-bit compatibility, unless on a chip that's specifically made to do it (eg., throw all that bonus to memory addressing out the window), is emulation and is only going to slow you down further.
AMD64 is nice now and will be nice later, for a consumer market.
Itanium is comparable to a Xeon in the 64-bit world. No one buys a Xeon to play games. (Well, at least I hope not.) They buy it because they need the enormous cache and high quality of the processors.
In other words, the people who buy Itanium, are also buying icc, Myrinet and a ton of other tools to work with it. They are not "Joe Consumer". These are seriously disturbed math doctorates with research to do.
Um, to their benefit, Itanium was not, nor ever will be, a workstation processor. Heck, it's not even a "serve-your-shitty-perl-app-over-the-web" processor.
It's a HPC processor. It does complex math and it does it well. AMD64 is much more general in scope and therefore, you are comparing apples and oranges.
AMD64 might have some clout in the hobbyist section of this group, but the guys doing the "real work" are doing it on Itanium and will be for a long time.
If you're interested, you should read the beowulf list instead of cracking bad jokes about it on slashdot.
I don't know if it had anything to do with a political viewpoint.... Did you read the transcript?
What John was saying is that they were deliberately disguising political "debate" as song and dance. And frankly, "one of their own" is the most qualified to call them on it.
Yes, I know of these beings that take the Daily Show seriously. In fact, I watch the show because I have no reservation whatsoever about having an opinion shoved down my throat, I'm just there to laugh.
This is coming from a person who avoids Television News at all cost.
As for the attack, I know I would have made it much earlier. The show is about "the issues" and "debate", but as soon as he started giving them some, they gave him the filibuster. Translation: criticism is fine as long as it's not directed at them.
Damn, I hope your name is any indication of the motives of your post. Either that, or you need to have your head examined.
It's simpler than you think.
Fox, CBS, etc., may have bias. Bias keeps like-minded people coming back, raking in advertising dollars.
It's like when NBC or whoever makes Friends puts out an ad that says "So and So gets Married to so and so, but is he going to reconsider the night before they get married?"
Now, if I don't follow the show Friends, this is incoherent babble to me. However, for the gigantic base of avid Friends-watchers, this puts a little reminder in their head to "Be home at 8pm on Friday night." They'll tell their friends about it when they are asked to go out, and maybe their friends will tune in as well, enjoy the show, and be there to catch the next ad.
Does it make sense now? NPR runs blocks of liberal hosts, conservative hosts, middle of the road hosts, etc. E! used to run video clips of the Howard Stern show, and being an avid listener of it I would occasionally tune in to see what in the hell was really going on. I could care less about watching it on a regular basis.
Viewers equals one thing: advertising.
PBS has it too, although it's seriously downplayed. At the end of the show you get a thick list of sponsors. Nothing fancy, but it's there.
Also, those who watch the show regularily are more likely to contribute come fundraiser time, and more likely to vote on measures which increase tax-based contribution.
PBS is money-motivated as well. It's hard to say what organization isn't merely because it's not an advantageous position for most (especially those in the position to do so.. despite what any of you might think, making and keeping vast sums of money is less luck and influence and more ingenuity) to liquidate funds to provide a service with no return.
That's not the problem, however. It's the public's desire to see shows like this that cause them to be brought to life. After all, even though PBS may be free, we're still voting with our eyes.
On media fact-correction, I would gladly buy any newspaper that replaced the front page with a list of retractions from the previous issues. Even if they were the biggest biased pieces of shit, that alone would at least tell me their representation is based on facts.
The point Stewart made after being attacked with that was simple:
"My show follows puppets making crude prank calls. You guys are on CNN."
I hope I don't have to explain it further.
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Have you ever tried loosening up?
Really, you should try leaving the coffee shop for a few hours, loosen your tie, and you know, have a drink and relax. It's really sad to see people so focused on detail that they miss the big picture in life.
Seriously, you couldn't destroy your own argument quicker if you used even more stereotypes.
Sadly enough, this is the kind of talk that fosters your end, and the talk on the other end is what helps generate it.
Have you thought of a career in journalism? All the sensation, none of the fact.
Quit being a stupid, angry [angry race of the week] man and open your eyes. It's not as cut and dry as you think it is.
US + War = Godwin's Law
And really, what would it solve? Like the parent said, a keylogger is pointless and a traffic logger is pretty close to it if encryption is properly applied (and I assume with the fanfare IM generates...).
I mean, everyone can break out and say "there's a loophole in the encryption!", but until I see it, I'll feel comfortable using ssh and PGP. Besides, if someone really wants to know what you're doing, they'll find out regardless.
Bandwidth is never the problem, after all, you wouldn't be seeing it at all if it was.
Normally it's the database. Sometimes it's the stuff in the middle.
Because its very affective at annoying you're average anal types.
I was going to say something similar. We actually have the chance of doing more damage by repopulating some of these endangered species.
People keep forgetting one, very important thing:
One of the things that makes the Mac so "hands-off" is it's limited driver set.
Ever had a Windows driver go belly-up on you? How about Linux? It's so rare on the mac that when it happens (as was the case a few weeks ago with the G5 firmware update) it's a huge stink on all the mac sites.
Now think about it. Allllllll those drivers, allllll that code, allllll that hardware for x86. Apple doesn't have the resources to do that, heck, Microsoft barely did when they wrote '95, and immediately after that they pretty much laid down the law with hardware manufacturers that they had to write their own drivers.
Mac OS X is pretty mature these days and I wonder if Apple is ready or willing to risk that perception.
I really think it has less to do with controlling hardware or anything like that. Generally if something goes wrong in the OS on the Mac, it's bad hardware - almost always guaranteed these days.
It's not really "bells and whistles", that's a common mistake that many people (including me in the past) make when thinking about what the mac can do.
AppleScript may look like a dumb language, but I've never seen VB do what it can do to a desktop, and there's certainly no comparison on linux. Need to add a feature to your favorite app? You can normally do it with little pain and the Script Editor. If there's not API support for it, you can always just write a script that controls the GUI directly.
I also have always been a big fan of the dock concept, but WindowMaker really doesn't do it justice - it's not really WM's fault, either. The fact that when you have 10 copies of FireFox open they are joined at the hip by the OS makes the dock concept that much more powerful. Alt-tab to the firefox app, alt-` to cycle firefox windows only.
I could go on, because there are tons of "little things" that make it so nice. After all, when was the last time you installed your OS and everything worked as expected on first boot?
Erm....
.... Oh, I thought you were talking about another shitty movie where a bunch of people click on a horribly over-animated and under-powered "interface" and talk technobabble while referring to it all as being a part of the "network".
I mean, how can you knock a movie with Dan Ackroyd in it?
I don't know what's funnier, watching those movies, or hearing "experts" talk about how "accurate" it is. You know, like the guys that cheered Trinity on when she used ssh or nmap or whatever in Matrix 2. "Holy crap! It's a terminal! IN a movie! And it's running a real program! Where in the heck did they come up with the budget for that?!"
Quick! Quick! Get the floppy in the mac to upload the virus to cause immense catastophe! Go Sandra Go!
Besides, it's North Korea that isn't controlled by a U.S. Shadow Government.
One thing *is* amazing though - those "computer" scenes in those movies can be done by any 14yo with a pirated copy of Macromedia Flash these days. Think of what those movie wankers paid to get that same quality.
What benefit exactly are a bunch of throw backs from the dukes of hazzard armed with shotguns and banjos going to do for North Korea?
Yeah, I know that some people are going Opteron. The price/performance point is a big one when you're buying a cluster.
My experience mostly comes from people writing experiences to the beowulf list, which is a pretty well-informed group.
Yeah, heh. Tell that to the sales team which manages their HPC customers.
After service contracts, compiler sales, architecture manuals and probably in some cases custom builds... Yeah.
I'd make a joke that you were some kind of rocket scientist, but those guys are actually using Itanium processors.
Uh... All timely, right decisions too. Your point?
If they come up with a "commodity processor" based on Itanium (you know, like the PII was for the PPro), it might do well.
That said, I was building servers and teching machines when the PII came out. Before that (and for some time after), we installed PPro's in servers. The only dumbasses who bought PPro's for their workstations were trustafarians and scary geeks who constantly had a stain of cheeto crust on their fingers and needed "the best money could buy".
Heh. I can probably predict how this went at Intel:
The engineers knew it was a specialized product.
The marketing department probably thought "woo! 64-bit!" and started the buzz train.
Of course 64-bit software runs faster than 32-bit software on the same architecture. That was my point. However, 64-bit is certainly not a panacea and gathering from your knowledge, you certainly know that too. Software has to be coded for it (unless your C compiler ignores 'register' keywords when it runs out) - a simple recompile is rarely the proper solution.
Buying a Xeon to play games is pure idiocy as far as I can see, or at least someone with way too much money to blow on a hobby.
On one hand, it's hard to blame you for your ignorance.
:)
On the other hand, people who thought the N64 was hot because it was "64-bit" so they can sound "tech" explains a lot of my disdain for people like you.
64-bit will make your programs slower as there is more work that needs to be done for each operation, especially the math-light ones like opening that spreadsheet program or playing gunbound.
32-bit compatibility, unless on a chip that's specifically made to do it (eg., throw all that bonus to memory addressing out the window), is emulation and is only going to slow you down further.
AMD64 is nice now and will be nice later, for a consumer market.
Itanium is comparable to a Xeon in the 64-bit world. No one buys a Xeon to play games. (Well, at least I hope not.) They buy it because they need the enormous cache and high quality of the processors.
In other words, the people who buy Itanium, are also buying icc, Myrinet and a ton of other tools to work with it. They are not "Joe Consumer". These are seriously disturbed math doctorates with research to do.
Um, to their benefit, Itanium was not, nor ever will be, a workstation processor. Heck, it's not even a "serve-your-shitty-perl-app-over-the-web" processor.
It's a HPC processor. It does complex math and it does it well. AMD64 is much more general in scope and therefore, you are comparing apples and oranges.
AMD64 might have some clout in the hobbyist section of this group, but the guys doing the "real work" are doing it on Itanium and will be for a long time.
If you're interested, you should read the beowulf list instead of cracking bad jokes about it on slashdot.
You mean the same guys who discontinued the DEC Alpha, a processor that has a rabid fanbase that rivals Apple's?