The code in each language is different in regards to many things, and each step is handled differently by their respective compiler/interpreter.
This isn't like we're looking at just performance here, we also need ot be looking at what created teh code in each, and what benefits one have over the others...
For instance, I bet JSP would be the only solution where all of the other languages would fail.
Also, there are languages like perl and C which accomplish pretty much anything you want, but in the process leave "ease" and the 400 mysql_*() functions in PHP behind.... PHP won't do an IPC-speaking threaded daemon though. (at least, AFAIK). Writing a daemon for stuff that shows up a lot can significantly help deliverance (no pun intended:).
I think until games really started coming on CD-ROM for 'real' computers this was pretty prevalent, I have a hard time thinking of games for Apple II/XT/286/386 that didn't come with this form of protection, and the inevitable "find the 12th word on the 68th page in the 3rd manual that comes after the second appearance of the word 'xwing'"
Needless to say, we can thank lovely copy protection like this that has made wonderful advances in reverse engineering (because a lot of us learned how to do it through fixing this crap).
Lots of GOOD programmers are high off their ass when they write code. Even better artists have claimed that the drug itself brings them the 'skill' they need (although, i doubt this). If you need proof, just do a search for 'rasterman', 'levellord', or look at the hostnames for gnu.org. Blizzard software thanks "Proposition 212" and "420" in the credits for "Diablo".
Of course programmers don't have to think at all.
Pot certainly fucks with your imagination, i'll give you that, but I've rarely found it to be bad, only in situations where I"ve mixed alcohol with it, to be specific. (don't do that much heh)
It messes with your head directly and lasts much longer than boozing.
Alcohol must mess with your bowels then - I've had good friends who are normally continent shit and piss their pants like they were 2, all while puking their brains out on alcohol.
Hm. Seen a few budsmokers fall asleep. Slackers! Evil!
Wait, that's after at least a (5 bowls|full rack)... now, that thing tolerance, might have soemthing to do with it? Hrm. (marijuana smokers|alcohol drinkers) who have been doign it moderately for 20 years need to (smoke|drink) more than people doing it for less?
Seriously, anyone reading this arguemnt on slashdot this far and doesn't have enough proof ALREADY that they should at least research the TONS and TONS of evidence against the governments' claims are:
I agree with RMS on many planes, but his lack of ability to recognize other models for their abilities, as well as their faults, makes him rather subjective mainly because there are other models which closely resemble his method, let he refuses to recognize him.
ergo, "childish".
From his standpoint as a moralist and philosopher, this is very, very wrong. Every moral has a subset of defined points which comprise that moral. For instance, with "free software", the morals that the source code should be freely available to view, modify and release is in lines with Open Source software - in fact, it's one of the shining points of Free Software, but RMS refuses to believe that this can cooperate with his model.
If RMS wants to plug Free Software, fine with me, but I think stooping to the level of uncompromising "I didn't hear you sargeant!" statements regarding OSS is utter bullshift().
The law team undoubtedly forbade software which wasn't writted by and purchased from a company, which allows them to sue the shit out of them if something goes wrong. (even though EULA's say otherwise, there have been people that have won suits against MS and other companies for faulty software)
Now of course, I'm giving lawyers benefit of the doubt, but this seems the most likely situation.
Re:The coolest things about QNX
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It may not be as good for skinning as a proper hunting knife, but it also has a saw, a can opener, a magnifying glass, and many other useful tools that you might need some day. Think about it.
The last thing I take with me camping is something I won't use.
There's a term called 'better for the job' which applies here.
I could care less if linux runs on a PDA. What I do care about, is having what works best on a PDA on a PDA, not what can be ported to work on a PDA.
QNX is made to run on a small system.
Your average linux DESKTOP box takes roughly 400 floppy disks, if you include the base, gnome or KDE, and yoru various desktop utilities. And we haven't even gotten into "applications" yet.
But QNX does that in 1.
for teh love of god zealots, think outside of the box.
One of the things that I've been doing at my job at a online and local-area bookstore in portland (name withheld) is setting up e-book handling for our customers.
We serve 2 types: Rocket Editions, and soon E-books using the MS Reader software (with that cleartype crap the rest of the world calls anti-aliasing).
The MS reader is exactly what you describe - communicate through a secure server that verifies your ID, sends a transaction to a distributor and you get a file (.lit) that contains the "book". You use the software on your computer to read it, and msot sites have it setup so that you can return and download it at will once you've paid for it.
Now, rocket editions, are extrememly cool. You purchase a palm-pilot like device that syncs with your computer, so, you can take it anywhere, not much different than a "real" book. The only caveat is that all books are stored on rocket's site, so, while you've purchased it, you're pretty much at the mercy of their system for getting your books. I can't recall if it's capable of storing these books on your own system.
Now that you perhaps actually understand what you're talkign about, it should be known that too kill off books, you're going to have to kill off:
1) literacy
2) paper
3) ink
4) anything else that sparks creativity
While banning books in libraries does exist, it's important to understand that the libraries get the books for SOMEWHERE, they don't produce them.
How are book burnings any different than banning them? They are both expressions of silencing free speech, even if one tends to be more powerful than the other. A simple protest will do, or mass writing/emailing activism on the complainant's behalf.
It would be particularily nice if people would spend less time performing actions against the problem and more time attempting to solve them.
1) Power Down machine
2) insert happy debian or slackware boot cd
3) boot to cd
4) type 'mount -t ext2/dev/hdx/mnt'
5) enjoy
what exactly did you circumvent there? the boot sequence? there was no access control method to pass.
IANAL, of course. the DMCA is too fuzzy to be interpreted anyways IMHO.
Erik
1) Sun sells UNIX
2) UNIX users more often than not are using FSF-based software
3) Alot of UNIX users use Sun for their primary OS.
Way to boost system sales McNealy!
No matter, I think I'm going to collect a copy of WABI and break out the burner, hand it out to people on the street outside the local CS dept at one of our colleges.
There are an average (i browse a 1) of 200 comments or so per article.
There are.. well the webpage count has a lot of digits in it. Google just recently reached 1 billion.
You also have to consider the fact that most people are searching for what they want to look for, and if the site provided the information they wanted, they're more apt to vote for it.
I always thought it'd be a cool idea to have a system that tracks clicks through a cookie with a short expiry, and rates the system that way. Even if you DON'T find what you wanted, you're more likely to click on what LOOKS like it might have the information rather than some old mailing list article with shitty sysadmins who don't know how to use robots.txt. (personally, if I wanted to search a mailing list i'd find the site for the list, not 400 mails in a search engine query - slashdot included)
This way, the users vote through their choices, and no extra effort is needed. For advertising (NOT MARKETING) purposes, this would also be useful. (ie, how many hits to search query "blah foo", not tracking users - hence short expiration cookies)
Although, not only would this be a huge horde of bandwidth for the provider, it could also lead to slow service due to a ton of open TCP connections. (ie, the host just simply doens't exist anymore, wait to timeout)
And hell, you can barely find an IT worker in the private sector who knows his ass end from his elbows. I believe this means the Government is Doomed.
I agree - there are a lot of idiots out there, but don't you think this attitude might just come from the fact that everyone thinks like this?
After all, I don't walk into work with lists of assembler opcodes pouring out of my mouth, either my co-workers assume that I know what I do or they don't.
I'm willing to assume that they think I don't, like the other 99% of the narcissist's out there who call themselves 'geeks'. That doesn't mean I smile any less when I answer their questions.:)
The point is - wasting your effort complaining about someone else's faults only ends up shining brighter on your own.
Sorry for the rant, I don't mean to pick on just you - I just grow real tired of dealing with people on a day to day basis that are convinced their shit doesn't stink because they've mastered 'ls' on 60 different unices.
And no, thank god, my co-workers aren't like that.
The problem with this, is simply that the bands you pay $45 bucks for have spent a lot of time 'spinning hte wheel of MTV' to get the fame that they.. 'deserve'.
Ever go to a billy joel concert? Nose-bleed in a lot of places will cost you over $100.
Why is this? Because good ol' Billy Joel knows he can get it.
If the Backstreet Boys charged this, they'd never fill any place. The average 14-yr old kid doesn't have $100 to toss around (although, a lot of their parents do).
And when you get into hardcore rock/metal, well, I saw Slipknot for about.. $30. (ok band, very, very, very cool concert - worth every dime) I saw 12 bands at portland's rockfest for $70 (i think). These bands are big but don't make it on MTV so often. They also tend to have a younger audience.
Ticketmaster owns this realm unfortunately. And a lot of major venues won't even deal with a band unless they go through them.
I hate to get all political like this, but this is very important.
Shit like this will NOT stop unless we send the republicans and democrats a message.
VOTE NADER.
Even if you don't agree with the guy, he's honest. Personally, I value that a lot more than someone who's just going to tell me what I want to hear anyways.
After all, don't you think it's ironic that Tipper Gore pretty much was the whole reason we have 'Parental Advisory' stickers on albums (said albums which populate perhaps 99% of the average 14 year old's music collection), yet, get so much money from campaign contributions from the same media that they have scorned. The irony.
In the same stroke, the Clinton administration has made several attempts to curb our free speech. The CDA I and II, the DMCA (which will be repealed sooner or later, it's only a matter of time and money), the V-Chip, I could go on.
And the republicans. Did anyone see the carnivore hearings? Almost all republicans, about 3 of them understood what 'email' meant. When the guy from Bell labs tried to explain a packet sniffer to them (which is all carnivore really is), they just sat there with a dumbfounded look on their face. Of course, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why these people were appointed to this board. Elephants are big on defense and security.
Make your own choice, but Nader is not funded by large companies and lawyers, and doesn't have a bunch of ads on TV, but manages to draw an enormous crowd wherever he goes. I could only wonder why.
-Erik-
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WRT the GPL/LGPL debate:
Am I the only one that noticed that Qt can still make money with the GPL, instead of the LGPL?
The GPL benefits us, the home users and developers, with a free Toolkit.
The application developers, who want to modify the source and not release the changes, are going to put a nice lumpy sum in the Trolls' pockets. The LGPL wouldn't require them to show anything but the library source.:)
I'm not sure about the 4000, but most other jetdirect cards are just LPD in hardware anyways. I've set tons of them up with linux and other unix machines, all it takes is telling htem the "printer" is the ip of the jetdirect card. Then, you can let the JD take care of the spooling and it takes a happy little paralell interface to the printer itself.
In other words, if this one isn't a glorified LPD server, find one that is or get tons of the little ones:)
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The code in each language is different in regards to many things, and each step is handled differently by their respective compiler/interpreter.
:).
This isn't like we're looking at just performance here, we also need ot be looking at what created teh code in each, and what benefits one have over the others...
For instance, I bet JSP would be the only solution where all of the other languages would fail.
Also, there are languages like perl and C which accomplish pretty much anything you want, but in the process leave "ease" and the 400 mysql_*() functions in PHP behind.... PHP won't do an IPC-speaking threaded daemon though. (at least, AFAIK). Writing a daemon for stuff that shows up a lot can significantly help deliverance (no pun intended
I think until games really started coming on CD-ROM for 'real' computers this was pretty prevalent, I have a hard time thinking of games for Apple II/XT/286/386 that didn't come with this form of protection, and the inevitable "find the 12th word on the 68th page in the 3rd manual that comes after the second appearance of the word 'xwing'"
Needless to say, we can thank lovely copy protection like this that has made wonderful advances in reverse engineering (because a lot of us learned how to do it through fixing this crap).
Lots of GOOD programmers are high off their ass when they write code. Even better artists have claimed that the drug itself brings them the 'skill' they need (although, i doubt this). If you need proof, just do a search for 'rasterman', 'levellord', or look at the hostnames for gnu.org. Blizzard software thanks "Proposition 212" and "420" in the credits for "Diablo".
... now, that thing tolerance, might have soemthing to do with it? Hrm. (marijuana smokers|alcohol drinkers) who have been doign it moderately for 20 years need to (smoke|drink) more than people doing it for less?
Of course programmers don't have to think at all.
Pot certainly fucks with your imagination, i'll give you that, but I've rarely found it to be bad, only in situations where I"ve mixed alcohol with it, to be specific. (don't do that much heh)
It messes with your head directly and lasts much longer than boozing.
Alcohol must mess with your bowels then - I've had good friends who are normally continent shit and piss their pants like they were 2, all while puking their brains out on alcohol.
Hm. Seen a few budsmokers fall asleep. Slackers! Evil!
Wait, that's after at least a (5 bowls|full rack)
Seriously, anyone reading this arguemnt on slashdot this far and doesn't have enough proof ALREADY that they should at least research the TONS and TONS of evidence against the governments' claims are:
1) complete morons
2) #1
i don't need friends or novel situations to have a good time. I just need to have a good time.
your assumption that everyone has a good time the same way is the fault in your argument.
hate to nitpick, but these are assumptions.
farmers are known to sell marijuana crop simply because after taxes and income, they're still in the red. reefer puts food on their table.
as for crack: crack is deadly! most people know this! if they're still smoking it, then good for them.
(as for marijuana, in the last 20 years exactly 0 people have died from using it directly.)
I think "militant" would be a better word.
I agree with RMS on many planes, but his lack of ability to recognize other models for their abilities, as well as their faults, makes him rather subjective mainly because there are other models which closely resemble his method, let he refuses to recognize him.
ergo, "childish".
From his standpoint as a moralist and philosopher, this is very, very wrong. Every moral has a subset of defined points which comprise that moral. For instance, with "free software", the morals that the source code should be freely available to view, modify and release is in lines with Open Source software - in fact, it's one of the shining points of Free Software, but RMS refuses to believe that this can cooperate with his model.
If RMS wants to plug Free Software, fine with me, but I think stooping to the level of uncompromising "I didn't hear you sargeant!" statements regarding OSS is utter bullshift().
Unfortunately, this isn't a valid argument.
The law team undoubtedly forbade software which wasn't writted by and purchased from a company, which allows them to sue the shit out of them if something goes wrong. (even though EULA's say otherwise, there have been people that have won suits against MS and other companies for faulty software)
Now of course, I'm giving lawyers benefit of the doubt, but this seems the most likely situation.
It may not be as good for skinning as a proper hunting knife, but it also has a saw, a can opener, a magnifying glass, and many other useful tools that you might need some day. Think about it.
The last thing I take with me camping is something I won't use.
There's a term called 'better for the job' which applies here.
I could care less if linux runs on a PDA. What I do care about, is having what works best on a PDA on a PDA, not what can be ported to work on a PDA.
QNX is made to run on a small system.
Your average linux DESKTOP box takes roughly 400 floppy disks, if you include the base, gnome or KDE, and yoru various desktop utilities. And we haven't even gotten into "applications" yet.
But QNX does that in 1.
for teh love of god zealots, think outside of the box.
-Erik-
Why not?
After all, do they charge them for showing the baseball on NBC as well?
One of the things that I've been doing at my job at a online and local-area bookstore in portland (name withheld) is setting up e-book handling for our customers.
We serve 2 types: Rocket Editions, and soon E-books using the MS Reader software (with that cleartype crap the rest of the world calls anti-aliasing).
The MS reader is exactly what you describe - communicate through a secure server that verifies your ID, sends a transaction to a distributor and you get a file (.lit) that contains the "book". You use the software on your computer to read it, and msot sites have it setup so that you can return and download it at will once you've paid for it.
Now, rocket editions, are extrememly cool. You purchase a palm-pilot like device that syncs with your computer, so, you can take it anywhere, not much different than a "real" book. The only caveat is that all books are stored on rocket's site, so, while you've purchased it, you're pretty much at the mercy of their system for getting your books. I can't recall if it's capable of storing these books on your own system.
Now that you perhaps actually understand what you're talkign about, it should be known that too kill off books, you're going to have to kill off:
1) literacy
2) paper
3) ink
4) anything else that sparks creativity
While banning books in libraries does exist, it's important to understand that the libraries get the books for SOMEWHERE, they don't produce them.
How are book burnings any different than banning them? They are both expressions of silencing free speech, even if one tends to be more powerful than the other. A simple protest will do, or mass writing/emailing activism on the complainant's behalf.
It would be particularily nice if people would spend less time performing actions against the problem and more time attempting to solve them.
1) Users were required to share a certain amount of files based on thier "real" bandwidth
2) The RIAA didn't make anything off of it.
1) Power Down machine 2) insert happy debian or slackware boot cd 3) boot to cd 4) type 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hdx /mnt'
5) enjoy
what exactly did you circumvent there? the boot sequence? there was no access control method to pass.
IANAL, of course. the DMCA is too fuzzy to be interpreted anyways IMHO.
Erik
Am I the only one that notices that the borders look like 32-bit color TWM?
erik
bah
:)
:)
Smart people put in their chmod 700'd home directories
On the UNI network, even
Erik
Lets see here - better yet, lets do the math.
1) Sun sells UNIX
2) UNIX users more often than not are using FSF-based software
3) Alot of UNIX users use Sun for their primary OS.
Way to boost system sales McNealy!
No matter, I think I'm going to collect a copy of WABI and break out the burner, hand it out to people on the street outside the local CS dept at one of our colleges.
It'll be worth the $50 to prove a point.
There are an average (i browse a 1) of 200 comments or so per article.
There are.. well the webpage count has a lot of digits in it. Google just recently reached 1 billion.
You also have to consider the fact that most people are searching for what they want to look for, and if the site provided the information they wanted, they're more apt to vote for it.
I always thought it'd be a cool idea to have a system that tracks clicks through a cookie with a short expiry, and rates the system that way. Even if you DON'T find what you wanted, you're more likely to click on what LOOKS like it might have the information rather than some old mailing list article with shitty sysadmins who don't know how to use robots.txt. (personally, if I wanted to search a mailing list i'd find the site for the list, not 400 mails in a search engine query - slashdot included)
This way, the users vote through their choices, and no extra effort is needed. For advertising (NOT MARKETING) purposes, this would also be useful. (ie, how many hits to search query "blah foo", not tracking users - hence short expiration cookies)
Erik
Although, not only would this be a huge horde of bandwidth for the provider, it could also lead to slow service due to a ton of open TCP connections. (ie, the host just simply doens't exist anymore, wait to timeout)
Erik
And hell, you can barely find an IT worker in the private sector who knows his ass end from his elbows. I believe this means the Government is Doomed.
:)
I agree - there are a lot of idiots out there, but don't you think this attitude might just come from the fact that everyone thinks like this?
After all, I don't walk into work with lists of assembler opcodes pouring out of my mouth, either my co-workers assume that I know what I do or they don't.
I'm willing to assume that they think I don't, like the other 99% of the narcissist's out there who call themselves 'geeks'. That doesn't mean I smile any less when I answer their questions.
The point is - wasting your effort complaining about someone else's faults only ends up shining brighter on your own.
Sorry for the rant, I don't mean to pick on just you - I just grow real tired of dealing with people on a day to day basis that are convinced their shit doesn't stink because they've mastered 'ls' on 60 different unices.
And no, thank god, my co-workers aren't like that.
-Erik-
I think it's safe to figure that the "important" stuff doesn't sit on a network...
Or wait. What am I thinking.
-Erik-
The problem with this, is simply that the bands you pay $45 bucks for have spent a lot of time 'spinning hte wheel of MTV' to get the fame that they.. 'deserve'.
Ever go to a billy joel concert? Nose-bleed in a lot of places will cost you over $100.
Why is this? Because good ol' Billy Joel knows he can get it.
If the Backstreet Boys charged this, they'd never fill any place. The average 14-yr old kid doesn't have $100 to toss around (although, a lot of their parents do).
And when you get into hardcore rock/metal, well, I saw Slipknot for about.. $30. (ok band, very, very, very cool concert - worth every dime) I saw 12 bands at portland's rockfest for $70 (i think). These bands are big but don't make it on MTV so often. They also tend to have a younger audience.
Ticketmaster owns this realm unfortunately. And a lot of major venues won't even deal with a band unless they go through them.
-Erik-
I don't think you get it.
The issue at hand here, is that Napster is liable for the actions of other people.
Now, if I take your guns, and I use them to start a anti-government terrorist front...
Do you get arrested for treason?
-Erik-
I hate to get all political like this, but this is very important.
Shit like this will NOT stop unless we send the republicans and democrats a message.
VOTE NADER.
Even if you don't agree with the guy, he's honest. Personally, I value that a lot more than someone who's just going to tell me what I want to hear anyways.
After all, don't you think it's ironic that Tipper Gore pretty much was the whole reason we have 'Parental Advisory' stickers on albums (said albums which populate perhaps 99% of the average 14 year old's music collection), yet, get so much money from campaign contributions from the same media that they have scorned. The irony.
In the same stroke, the Clinton administration has made several attempts to curb our free speech. The CDA I and II, the DMCA (which will be repealed sooner or later, it's only a matter of time and money), the V-Chip, I could go on.
And the republicans. Did anyone see the carnivore hearings? Almost all republicans, about 3 of them understood what 'email' meant. When the guy from Bell labs tried to explain a packet sniffer to them (which is all carnivore really is), they just sat there with a dumbfounded look on their face. Of course, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why these people were appointed to this board. Elephants are big on defense and security.
Make your own choice, but Nader is not funded by large companies and lawyers, and doesn't have a bunch of ads on TV, but manages to draw an enormous crowd wherever he goes. I could only wonder why.
-Erik-
WRT the GPL/LGPL debate:
:)
Am I the only one that noticed that Qt can still make money with the GPL, instead of the LGPL?
The GPL benefits us, the home users and developers, with a free Toolkit.
The application developers, who want to modify the source and not release the changes, are going to put a nice lumpy sum in the Trolls' pockets. The LGPL wouldn't require them to show anything but the library source.
Erik
I'm not sure about the 4000, but most other jetdirect cards are just LPD in hardware anyways. I've set tons of them up with linux and other unix machines, all it takes is telling htem the "printer" is the ip of the jetdirect card. Then, you can let the JD take care of the spooling and it takes a happy little paralell interface to the printer itself.
:)
In other words, if this one isn't a glorified LPD server, find one that is or get tons of the little ones
Erik
"the most use of the code they use."
s/use\.$/write\./