M$ Embraces & Extends Linux... with AoE?
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*Shudder* Imagine M$ trying to gain a foothold somehow in the Linux OS/market by releasing quality products and games on the Linux OS? Imagine! Competing fairly and on the merit of quality and value! What is wrong with the world.
Oh well, we can dream, right? M$ Flight simulator would be nice, on Linux, while I'm dreaming. Anyone else with a wish? Support for their Wheel Intellimouse? Their Freestyle Pro? DirectX for Linux? -Twinkie
Oh get over it! Make your own units then!
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If you so much are upset by the fact that Sid Meiers and team had opinions, biases, and limited information, go do him one better. The value of the game is in the gameplay and strategy, not in the ideological or philosophical values of a government, religion, unit, or system. I may just be feeding trolls by replying, but I've seen some twisted(in my eyes) conversions by people who truly wanted a fanatic government, or a Nazi Regime, some Santa Claus units, and other oddities. Sigh. Some people... -Twinkie
What level of data gathering is reasonable and unreasonable? I certainly think selling it to other unrelated businesses unreasonable, but a bank selling this to a stock company MAY be reasonable. Its about services, profits, and markets more than power, corruption, and control, I think. Banks really want to serve more people(a transaction based service payment schem) more often, and by collecting and tracking they think they can(no guarantees, after all!)
If anyone is into anime, its a lot like companies following polls and fansubs... Anything that gets fansubbed and watched all over the place is a target for a profitable import to the US... the question is how to get this data? I guess some companies/most companies believe in tracking and profiles. I actually don't know how much of a privacy invasion, as I don't know that they actually match profiles to data to names. What they want to know however is what tax bracket is most likely to repay and not default, which area, region, market and demographic does the most business? Are there related services they can cross-sell, with relative confidence and minimum hassle? If students from XXX schools tend to be good at loan repayment, credit card responsible, and well earning graduates, can a program be set up at XXX schools to get them for life?
That kind of thing. I don't know that its anyone but the vocal paranoid types that care and complain, since more often than not it means better tailored service! It also means that if you fit a negative stereotype(I don't know what they are, but it should be common sense that a person without income, no college degree, unmarried, and living with parents would be an example of such a negative profile), its not just discrimination! Nor is it wrong... Its just you have a bad set of circumstances, and in 95% of other people in similar circumstances, the bank/institution suffered from bad business.
Colleges do such profiles and tracking before you apply, and more often than not it is voluntary. Market place institutions want to achieve a similar efficiency and get similar benefits. I know for example that Slashdot is a pretty accurate way to profile my and my friends, at least in interesting computing and news events, so if a company wanted to market to me, they might want to see Slashdot and observe our trends, tendencies, and such.
But then again, its like stock market prediction programs... how much of their sucess is because hundreds of programs are shaping the stock market to fit their model, rather than modeling and predicting the stock market? If companies start to dictate our behavior, rather than using our behavior to predict our future purchases, they both limit and reduce their future growth.
I was so amused by M$'s response! Especially the comment that the software industry loses more in piracy in a year than the music industry makes legally =)
Points to M$ Nathan Myhrvold for recognizing that an accessable media does not piracy make. Still, I really wonder if mp3 piracy actually causes 'losses' or actually increases sales? I know I am proud of ownership, and actually enjoy owning all the CDs and mp3s I listen to. People who don't value ownership won't want to buy their CDs anyway, I think. MP3s are just very convenient, and I wish I could buy legal, high quality, industry approved mp3s. Maybe not the current backwards idiotic industry, but some sort of enlightened distributorship, I think
Why is it people seem to be so cynical? What are we on earth right now but 'stuck in a tin can for your entire life'? How would someone born on a generation ship have any reason to complain? What would they be comparing to? Pictures of mother Earth? Really, how many people have tried to destroy the world? Why would anyone do that on a spaceship if not on Earth? We're not any less trapped or isolated or stuck right now! A generation ship would need its own aritificial climates in order to scrub the air, clean the water, grow the food, and provide respite for the populace; if we can solve the artificial gravity problem, I would imagine snow, rain, floods, sunshine, and all other manner of weather for variety. Likewise landscapes would be varied among scrublands, mountains, fields, marshes, etc for all their various technical and psychological uses. I dunno, I think it would work!
Slashdot Mirror
*Shudder*
Imagine M$ trying to gain a foothold somehow in the Linux OS/market by releasing quality products and games on the Linux OS? Imagine! Competing fairly and on the merit of quality and value! What is wrong with the world.
Oh well, we can dream, right?
M$ Flight simulator would be nice, on Linux, while I'm dreaming. Anyone else with a wish? Support for their Wheel Intellimouse? Their Freestyle Pro? DirectX for Linux?
-Twinkie
If you so much are upset by the fact that Sid Meiers and team had opinions, biases, and limited information, go do him one better. The value of the game is in the gameplay and strategy, not in the ideological or philosophical values of a government, religion, unit, or system. I may just be feeding trolls by replying, but I've seen some twisted(in my eyes) conversions by people who truly wanted a fanatic government, or a Nazi Regime, some Santa Claus units, and other oddities. Sigh. Some people...
-Twinkie
What level of data gathering is reasonable and unreasonable? I certainly think selling it to other unrelated businesses unreasonable, but a bank selling this to a stock company MAY be reasonable. Its about services, profits, and markets more than power, corruption, and control, I think. Banks really want to serve more people(a transaction based service payment schem) more often, and by collecting and tracking they think they can(no guarantees, after all!)
If anyone is into anime, its a lot like companies following polls and fansubs... Anything that gets fansubbed and watched all over the place is a target for a profitable import to the US... the question is how to get this data? I guess some companies/most companies believe in tracking and profiles. I actually don't know how much of a privacy invasion, as I don't know that they actually match profiles to data to names. What they want to know however is what tax bracket is most likely to repay and not default, which area, region, market and demographic does the most business? Are there related services they can cross-sell, with relative confidence and minimum hassle? If students from XXX schools tend to be good at loan repayment, credit card responsible, and well earning graduates, can a program be set up at XXX schools to get them for life?
That kind of thing. I don't know that its anyone but the vocal paranoid types that care and complain, since more often than not it means better tailored service! It also means that if you fit a negative stereotype(I don't know what they are, but it should be common sense that a person without income, no college degree, unmarried, and living with parents would be an example of such a negative profile), its not just discrimination! Nor is it wrong... Its just you have a bad set of circumstances, and in 95% of other people in similar circumstances, the bank/institution suffered from bad business.
Colleges do such profiles and tracking before you apply, and more often than not it is voluntary. Market place institutions want to achieve a similar efficiency and get similar benefits. I know for example that Slashdot is a pretty accurate way to profile my and my friends, at least in interesting computing and news events, so if a company wanted to market to me, they might want to see Slashdot and observe our trends, tendencies, and such.
But then again, its like stock market prediction programs... how much of their sucess is because hundreds of programs are shaping the stock market to fit their model, rather than modeling and predicting the stock market? If companies start to dictate our behavior, rather than using our behavior to predict our future purchases, they both limit and reduce their future growth.
Louis
louisjr@cco.clatech.edu
I was so amused by M$'s response! Especially the comment that the software industry loses more in piracy in a year than the music industry makes legally =)
Points to M$ Nathan Myhrvold for recognizing that an accessable media does not piracy make. Still, I really wonder if mp3 piracy actually causes 'losses' or actually increases sales? I know I am proud of ownership, and actually enjoy owning all the CDs and mp3s I listen to. People who don't value ownership won't want to buy their CDs anyway, I think. MP3s are just very convenient, and I wish I could buy legal, high quality, industry approved mp3s. Maybe not the current backwards idiotic industry, but some sort of enlightened distributorship, I think
Louis
louisjr@cco.caltech.edu
Why is it people seem to be so cynical? What are we on earth right now but 'stuck in a tin can for your entire life'? How would someone born on a generation ship have any reason to complain? What would they be comparing to? Pictures of mother Earth? Really, how many people have tried to destroy the world? Why would anyone do that on a spaceship if not on Earth? We're not any less trapped or isolated or stuck right now! A generation ship would need its own aritificial climates in order to scrub the air, clean the water, grow the food, and provide respite for the populace; if we can solve the artificial gravity problem, I would imagine snow, rain, floods, sunshine, and all other manner of weather for variety.
Likewise landscapes would be varied among scrublands, mountains, fields, marshes, etc for all their various technical and psychological uses. I dunno, I think it would work!