Both conditions described above aren't problems with being smart, but rather failure to deploy basic investigative process.
Everyone is too used to being hand fed that they fail to look past action 1. The correct response to both persons would be. "It's not an equipment failure, and if you spend a few seconds thinking about it I am sure you will figure it out".
Are you going to charge the person that fell into it and broke their leg?
If all it took to get rich was do a bunch of work without being asked with the expectation someone might like it after all. Wait... Music and picture industry...
Using the word "lines" to describe it is actually good, as it's a term consumers new to mobile phones (at the time they came out) could understand. They knew a traditional phone line was a single in/out connection for voice with an assigned number you'd use to reach it from another phone, having multiple physical lines separate from each other meant multiple conversations and being able to reach a specific line if you wanted because of their separate numbers. Why not carry the term to a new technology that did the same thing? If you get cable internet service and get two modems and service for both, your cableco will also refer to it as two Lines of Business for data service, even though both modems are fed from a single drop. The bandwidth for the modems is not shared. Each gets 5 Mbps down and 768 Kbps up in no relation to what the other is using.
Don't forget to factor in the cost of the Internet service you need for the Skype to function.
This is unacceptable because invariably I get embroiled in long conversations re-teaching my peers the correct terminology and how the technology actually works vs the marketing spiel they bought. I have a Boss that likes the latest shiny thing and I spend a lot of time asking if he really knows what he wants to buy. everyone needs to take the extra few minutes to identify what it is they are working with from the start. And yes this is a pet peeve. These people refer to their computer by year as though it were a car, they call the computer the Hard Drive or the CPU, Etc.
My Gripe here, and so far it's gone way off topic, is that bad terminology and understanding is being perpetuated by laziness at the emergence of the technology. By the same token, and I will answer this for you, I have to remind myself of the quality of induhvidual that is the general populace. I know I am beating my head against a brick wall here. It doesn't mean I have to like it.
As for the cost of internet access being added to Skype, I pay for Internet access for a variety of other uses as well so a good portion of that cost can be assigned to those other activities, spreading the cost of that access.
What annoyed me more than being called an idiot was the usage of the word lines to describe phones, or accounts. It bugs me, and apparently nobody else. Who cares right?
Apparently you do enough to flame me on it.
Whatever. I am very glad I only pay roughly about $18 per quarter for my Skype account though. I don't want or need a cellphone. Even if I did. I would leave it at the only place I would use it, At home. My Daughters all cry for one. I never had one as a child and I don't see why they need one either. If I could I would shove the damn things up the butts of the drivers trying to kill everyone while chatting on the phone at 70 miles an hour.
That said exercising your brain may be fun and give you that spandex in the morning feeling but push comes to shove a person is likely to die from cancer or alzheimer's so what's the point after all?
The only way you are able to exercise your brain the way you are doing is because of those who have come before you and left a legacy of decent information. Without those who have come before, you'd be starting from basics, and it'd be supremely arrogant to claim you'd get from starting a fire to string theory in one lifetime.
Basically I'm saying the _point_ is helping those who follow you. You've got a foundation, that it's easy to take for granted, but impossible to ignore. If those that follow you have a higher foundation (however slightly), that's the point.
Extremely Valid Point. For my off topic response, this needs to be placed on a stainless steel stamp and imprinted on the head of every shrink that describes "Co-Dependent" as an illness. We are all co-dependent on the culture and infrastructure of those before us, and those around us in the course of our daily lives.
- End rant.:)
I prefer to make a distinction between "memory" and "Memorization". Somewhere recently on slashdot there was a discussion about big words and subtle differences but I can't place it.
Instead:
Definition of MEMORY
a : the power or process of reproducing or recalling what has been learned and retained especially through associative mechanisms
b : the store of things learned and retained from an organism's activity or experience as evidenced by modification of structure or behavior or by recall and recognition
Definition of MEMORIZE
a : to commit to memory : learn by heart
Call me nitpicky all you want. But words have distinct meaning and power. For me, learning something by heart comes from practice. Probably why Doctors *practice* so much.
Tell me and I will forget,
Show me and I will remember,
involve me and I will understand.
That said exercising your brain may be fun and give you that spandex in the morning feeling but push comes to shove a person is likely to die from cancer or alzheimer's so what's the point after all?
The ability to *use* knowldege[sic] has nothing to do with knowing it.
? ?
Only if by " *use* " you mean blindly applying canned "solutions" built by others.
However, that is not the type of use of knowledge that the GP was discussing.
Not at all. That, in my mind, is just another form of a 'ritual activity'. ( rote memorization or rote application, etc ) It's when you truly know how to think, to identify the real problem at hand ( not always apparent ) and plan an appropriate long and short term solution to the problem. You can search for operational characteristics of various technologies, consult with those that know it like the back of their hand then put the bid out for the path you have chosen.
In this scenario being "on the ground" and "knowing the technology" Will place you in the wrong pay bracket. It may seem sad to be paid more for knowing less, But you're really being paid more to think well, because that's a much rarer skill.
Now this is only one example, as search engines have many more facets to their paradigm. I for one, don't want to memorize phone books to find a realtor, or memorize every publication that critiques cuisine to find a good restaurant.
Also, Almost everyone confuses knowledge with intelligence. They are two distinct entities. Knowledge will amplify intelligence, but you don't need to know every thing in order to be highly effectual. Perhaps a degradation, if it's real, is just another example of evolution?
Excellent point made about memorization not being the goal, yet you still managed to say that it is.
The ability to *use* knowldege has nothing to do with knowing it. Critical thinking and sleuthing is far more important than knowing A goes into B.I have personally met individuals that *knew* their material and refused to accept the possibility that it had changed. In the Technology sector, this is fatal, as things often change very rapidly, in the course of weeks or months rather than years.
Finding information in a book is one thing, today, some information is far too dynamic to be of use by the time it reaches print.
I have done work with the government and had to participate in this scanning before bringing new hardware aboard a military facility.
Their scanning software requires remote access to the registry from a central scanning computer and looks for every "recommended" patch, setting, or configuration and throws a flag for every non-compliant instance it finds. The list of recommended settings are often security theatre regimen or disastrously harmful to performance. But someone convinced congressman Y,Y,Z that this setting was imperative to have enabled or disabled.
Performance was so horrible we had to disable the scanner's access in order to perform our demonstration.
EU has been impressing me lately. They seem to actually care about good governance sometimes. That's one hell of a lot more than I can say about the USA and the "land of the corporate free reign".
Ah. I see. You're a paranoid conspiracy nut. Sorry, go ahead, you were saying?
You go ahead and keep putting all that effort into denying my suggestion. If would have been far simpler for you to just drop the single line I quoted from you above. But then my response might have been;
Ah, I see. You're a conspiracy denouncer nut. Sorry, go ahead, you were saying?
Only problem with that conclusion is it would require open gates across the moat to allow an army of sufficient size to take advantage of that hamstrung status.
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Both conditions described above aren't problems with being smart, but rather failure to deploy basic investigative process.
Everyone is too used to being hand fed that they fail to look past action 1. The correct response to both persons would be. "It's not an equipment failure, and if you spend a few seconds thinking about it I am sure you will figure it out".
- Dan.
Who asked you to dig the hole?
Are you going to charge the person that fell into it and broke their leg?
If all it took to get rich was do a bunch of work without being asked with the expectation someone might like it after all. Wait... Music and picture industry...
This analogy is indeed full of holes..
- Dan.
You have *NO* Idea how badly I want to cross state lines with poultry on my head again.
Oh those were the days...
- Dan.
Using the word "lines" to describe it is actually good, as it's a term consumers new to mobile phones (at the time they came out) could understand. They knew a traditional phone line was a single in/out connection for voice with an assigned number you'd use to reach it from another phone, having multiple physical lines separate from each other meant multiple conversations and being able to reach a specific line if you wanted because of their separate numbers. Why not carry the term to a new technology that did the same thing? If you get cable internet service and get two modems and service for both, your cableco will also refer to it as two Lines of Business for data service, even though both modems are fed from a single drop. The bandwidth for the modems is not shared. Each gets 5 Mbps down and 768 Kbps up in no relation to what the other is using.
Don't forget to factor in the cost of the Internet service you need for the Skype to function.
This is unacceptable because invariably I get embroiled in long conversations re-teaching my peers the correct terminology and how the technology actually works vs the marketing spiel they bought. I have a Boss that likes the latest shiny thing and I spend a lot of time asking if he really knows what he wants to buy. everyone needs to take the extra few minutes to identify what it is they are working with from the start. And yes this is a pet peeve. These people refer to their computer by year as though it were a car, they call the computer the Hard Drive or the CPU, Etc.
My Gripe here, and so far it's gone way off topic, is that bad terminology and understanding is being perpetuated by laziness at the emergence of the technology. By the same token, and I will answer this for you, I have to remind myself of the quality of induhvidual that is the general populace. I know I am beating my head against a brick wall here. It doesn't mean I have to like it.
As for the cost of internet access being added to Skype, I pay for Internet access for a variety of other uses as well so a good portion of that cost can be assigned to those other activities, spreading the cost of that access.
- Dan.
What annoyed me more than being called an idiot was the usage of the word lines to describe phones, or accounts. It bugs me, and apparently nobody else. Who cares right?
Apparently you do enough to flame me on it.
Whatever. I am very glad I only pay roughly about $18 per quarter for my Skype account though. I don't want or need a cellphone. Even if I did. I would leave it at the only place I would use it, At home. My Daughters all cry for one. I never had one as a child and I don't see why they need one either. If I could I would shove the damn things up the butts of the drivers trying to kill everyone while chatting on the phone at 70 miles an hour.
- End Rant.
will sell a post-paid wireless service . . . The first line will cost
Am I the only one that see this?
- Dan.
That said exercising your brain may be fun and give you that spandex in the morning feeling but push comes to shove a person is likely to die from cancer or alzheimer's so what's the point after all?
The only way you are able to exercise your brain the way you are doing is because of those who have come before you and left a legacy of decent information. Without those who have come before, you'd be starting from basics, and it'd be supremely arrogant to claim you'd get from starting a fire to string theory in one lifetime.
Basically I'm saying the _point_ is helping those who follow you. You've got a foundation, that it's easy to take for granted, but impossible to ignore. If those that follow you have a higher foundation (however slightly), that's the point.
Extremely Valid Point. For my off topic response, this needs to be placed on a stainless steel stamp and imprinted on the head of every shrink that describes "Co-Dependent" as an illness. We are all co-dependent on the culture and infrastructure of those before us, and those around us in the course of our daily lives. - End rant. :)
I prefer to make a distinction between "memory" and "Memorization". Somewhere recently on slashdot there was a discussion about big words and subtle differences but I can't place it.
Instead:
Definition of MEMORY
a : the power or process of reproducing or recalling what has been learned and retained especially through associative mechanisms
b : the store of things learned and retained from an organism's activity or experience as evidenced by modification of structure or behavior or by recall and recognition
Definition of MEMORIZE
a : to commit to memory : learn by heart
Call me nitpicky all you want. But words have distinct meaning and power. For me, learning something by heart comes from practice. Probably why Doctors *practice* so much.
- Dan.
It's been said before;
Tell me and I will forget,
Show me and I will remember,
involve me and I will understand.
That said exercising your brain may be fun and give you that spandex in the morning feeling but push comes to shove a person is likely to die from cancer or alzheimer's so what's the point after all?
- Dan.
The ability to *use* knowldege[sic] has nothing to do with knowing it.
? ?
Only if by " *use* " you mean blindly applying canned "solutions" built by others.
However, that is not the type of use of knowledge that the GP was discussing.
Not at all. That, in my mind, is just another form of a 'ritual activity'. ( rote memorization or rote application, etc ) It's when you truly know how to think, to identify the real problem at hand ( not always apparent ) and plan an appropriate long and short term solution to the problem. You can search for operational characteristics of various technologies, consult with those that know it like the back of their hand then put the bid out for the path you have chosen.
In this scenario being "on the ground" and "knowing the technology" Will place you in the wrong pay bracket. It may seem sad to be paid more for knowing less, But you're really being paid more to think well, because that's a much rarer skill.
Now this is only one example, as search engines have many more facets to their paradigm. I for one, don't want to memorize phone books to find a realtor, or memorize every publication that critiques cuisine to find a good restaurant.
Also, Almost everyone confuses knowledge with intelligence. They are two distinct entities. Knowledge will amplify intelligence, but you don't need to know every thing in order to be highly effectual. Perhaps a degradation, if it's real, is just another example of evolution?
- Dan.
You lost me at Passive, gentle , adorable,
Am I feeding the paid boxee marketing troll ?
- Dan
Excellent point made about memorization not being the goal, yet you still managed to say that it is.
The ability to *use* knowldege has nothing to do with knowing it. Critical thinking and sleuthing is far more important than knowing A goes into B.I have personally met individuals that *knew* their material and refused to accept the possibility that it had changed. In the Technology sector, this is fatal, as things often change very rapidly, in the course of weeks or months rather than years.
Finding information in a book is one thing, today, some information is far too dynamic to be of use by the time it reaches print.
- Dan.
www.walmartmoneycard.com
I use it for my paycheck Never get overdraft fee's either. And it works with paypal.
- Dan.
I have done work with the government and had to participate in this scanning before bringing new hardware aboard a military facility.
Their scanning software requires remote access to the registry from a central scanning computer and looks for every "recommended" patch, setting, or configuration and throws a flag for every non-compliant instance it finds. The list of recommended settings are often security theatre regimen or disastrously harmful to performance. But someone convinced congressman Y,Y,Z that this setting was imperative to have enabled or disabled.
Performance was so horrible we had to disable the scanner's access in order to perform our demonstration.
- Dan. .
Here's a citation:
Global warming will exist., so long as there is money to be made.
- Dan.
You should Chilli, and stop being a Jerky.
So, Who's hungry?
- Dan
I am assuming this Girlfriend is post-op? *Grin*
- Dan.
Mod one Funny please!
EU has been impressing me lately. They seem to actually care about good governance sometimes. That's one hell of a lot more than I can say about the USA and the "land of the corporate free reign".
Here, let me fix that for you...
- Dan.
There was one shining message of truth though,
Russian this, American that, all made in Taiwan!!
- Dan.
Never a safe prospect suggesting celestial mass when talking to a woman, much less trying to get lucky...
- Dan.
Civilization is the Bane of Society, as stupidity is no longer fatal.
- Dan.
Actually, if you have a tech dirt rss feed, and a slashdot feed, you will notice that one follows the other, just about every day.
But I am sure that's just coincidence.
- Dan.
Ah. I see. You're a paranoid conspiracy nut. Sorry, go ahead, you were saying?
You go ahead and keep putting all that effort into denying my suggestion. If would have been far simpler for you to just drop the single line I quoted from you above. But then my response might have been;
Ah, I see. You're a conspiracy denouncer nut. Sorry, go ahead, you were saying?
Regards - Dan.
Only problem with that conclusion is it would require open gates across the moat to allow an army of sufficient size to take advantage of that hamstrung status.
Wait...
- Dan.