"Easiest way is to create a small IRC network, and submit the name to all the irc clients out there, so it'll be in the list. Also, name it something so it appears at the top or near the top..."
As admin of a server on a small network I can tell you this is the first thing we look for.
"To inflate user counts, just get an ircd that allows assigning yourself or others fake hostnames (for certain hosts/etc). Then load tons of bots in channels pretending to be 'users'. You could even get creative and make them idely chatter with each other.."
Some networks autospoof users, however most will then allow channel ops to see the true host> And opers always see the real thing, a good oper will run full modes and screen every connection made to the ircd and look for patterns. As for idle chatter that dosnt work, a good oper can easily spot that.
"Anyways, the point is that most of these botnet peoples eventually want to take a part of their net out to go mess with irc channels, and they usually seem to target smaller networks on the top of whatever list they're using.. So all ya gotta do if just log massive joins into certain channels, or when a flood of users magically connect to your fake network.. Then you have tons of bots to dissect or whatever."
This has been going on for years, nothing new here.
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Lets face it, they are both similar but also two differant things.
What bothers you more, the well trained hacker who maticulusly hunts out flaws in software?
Or the 15 y/o script kiddie sitting in his room on the emachines box he got last christmas and his friends who loadup a botnet to ddos some server?
"Easiest way is to create a small IRC network, and submit the name to all the irc clients out there, so it'll be in the list. Also, name it something so it appears at the top or near the top..."
As admin of a server on a small network I can tell you this is the first thing we look for.
"To inflate user counts, just get an ircd that allows assigning yourself or others fake hostnames (for certain hosts/etc). Then load tons of bots in channels pretending to be 'users'. You could even get creative and make them idely chatter with each other.."
Some networks autospoof users, however most will then allow channel ops to see the true host>
And opers always see the real thing, a good oper will run full modes and screen every connection made to the ircd and look for patterns.
As for idle chatter that dosnt work, a good oper can easily spot that.
"Anyways, the point is that most of these botnet peoples eventually want to take a part of their net out to go mess with irc channels, and they usually seem to target smaller networks on the top of whatever list they're using.. So all ya gotta do if just log massive joins into certain channels, or when a flood of users magically connect to your fake network.. Then you have tons of bots to dissect or whatever."
This has been going on for years, nothing new here.
What can brown lose for you?