Its baffling that you actually consider that an actual argument for something. The problem is you THINK your smart- but sadly yer really quite clueless.
I mean there are a lot of words strung together... and you have done a wonderful job arranging them in proper sentences.
Good work on that.
We just need to work on your significant lack of substance, and there is definitely some room for improvement in your research.
Tsk Tsk- you actually give scrappleface.com as a source to debunk Kerry's Senate service? Um... it's a badly written right wing SATIRE site. Nice one!
Now, if I was American, I imagine I would lean towards Kerry- though its staggering to consider in a country of pert near 300 million- that these two are the best representatives you could dig up?
ANYways... do some actual research and stop cutting and pasting drivel.
As far as the UN is concerned the invasion of Iraq was illegal. Do a google search- click on a few links and see if you can't read a few other opinions rather than the one given to you. Attempt to move outside of the GOP approved sites and dig up some facts.
Sheesh- you know the most annoying thing about you right wingers is that you are so LAZY.
By the way, there are MANY fundamentally Republican attributes and doctrines that I find quite compelling. Just because you were unfortunate enough to get stuck with this mockery of a president- doesn't mean you have to stick with him for another 4 years.
Just admit you were wrong.... dust off another candidate and try again in 4 years. Bush has done a crappy job... I mean even look at that paltry list you put together... 7 of those things haven't even been accomplished- and probably never WILL be.
What about the economy?
What about international relations?
What about the environment?
I mean come on- pull yer head out of the oil- he's a failure.
A charismatic meathead.
And no... just because you used capitals does NOT mean you proved your point. Its still silly, unfounded and incredibly juvenile.
But of course, convincing you of that is pointless... you are too obtuse to change, you will just go on blathering your pre-programmed tripe to anyone who will listen.
That is easily some of the lamest reasoning I have ever wasted my time trying to plow though.
I mean to be rude- you right wing morons are really just content to throw up a bunch of deflective nonsense aimed to frustrate and overwhelm the left and sound "smart" to the slack jawed yokels that so blindly support the blatant arrogance and rampant stupidity of your current administration.
Its weak. Its annoying and it simply CAN'T be allowed to be so effective any longer.
That's the worst part about this- is that this RIDICULOUS propaganda is actually working!
>"The fact that the rest of the world wants a change in leaders here in the U.S. is reason enough to vote for G.W.Bush for four more years!"
How does that make ANY sense at all? Are you in grade school? How childish can you possibly be to maintain that simply because the "world" says that you should vote for ANYone but Bush- that you should do the complete opposite? Were you the kind of kid that enjoyed running with scissors? I bet you were.
See, these are the kind of brainwashed morons that need to be sat down and educated by much smarter Americans. It is obvious that world opinion is categorically dismissed without consideration by these people- simply due to the fact that we are not "American". Talking to them from the outside is pointless- I mean its like a giant CULT and if there is any hope of averting 4 more years with that incompetent moron at the helm then you people on the inside have some serious deprogramming to do.
>"Its only slightly relevant here in the U.S. what the rest of the world thinks with regard to U.S. politics. The rest of the world knows Kerry as the do-nothing politician (see for yourself - his 20 year career in the Senate is summed up in 2 sentences on his own site http://www.johnkerry.com/) - exactly the kind of man they prefer in the White House, so the rest of the world can continue to do as they please."
Riiiight...and what has Bush done in 4 years as president?
Of course, let's also consider that you aim to discredit John Kerry's service as a Senator by pointing out a summation on a website! How is that in ANY way valid? The purpose of a summation is to... gee, I don't know- BRIEFLY sum up? Ya dork.
And further to your last sentence- don't you really think that's the way it should be ANYways? After all that's the whole reason behind "sovereignty" in the first place.
>Do you think France, Germany and Russia had the Iraqi people's best interests in mind when they were using the Iraq Oil-For-Food program to rob Humanitarian Aid from the people of Iraq?"
No of course not- but what does that have to do with the fact that as of right now the United States is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis? Just because other countries were taking advantage of Iraq does not justify the death toll from your current occupation. That was then- this is now. I'm sure even someone of your limited capacity can appreciate that distinction.
>"Did Koffi Annan's obviously politically motivated 2-years-too-late statement about how the Coalition invasion of Iraq was illegal helped anyone at all? (Oh, of course it did help the terrorist's recruiting effort in the Middle East.)"
YES! It should help you realize how wrong this entire campaign is. I mean you seem to acknowledge that it IS, in fact, an illegal war by international law- So your position is that the fact it came 2 years too late makes it irrelevant? That clearly makes no sense. (And throwing in some baseless correlation to the "terrorist recruiting effort" is just pathetic.)
> "How about the Darfur region. Do you honestly think that Russia or China have the best interests of the people of Darfur in mind when they oppose a strong resolution by the UN Security Council?"
Again, we are talking about what is going on in Iraq RIGHT NOW. Using the "well what about them" argument is just plain ridiculous- especially in this situation.
"GWB, Rudy Giuliani, and all those people are reminding us of something bad, the 9/11 attacks and the following wars. Many nations were forced to take a stand, and they don't like that. If Bush went away, maybe terrorism would go away as well?
That's on a subconsious level."
It gets irritating to constantly read through the badly regurgitated talking points that the right wing parrot crews typically spew out as substitution for an actual argument... BUT nothing is quite so loathsome as the shameful leveraging 9/11 for political gain.
The very fact that Bushco. is invoking the memory of such a devastatingly tragic event to somehow bolster his re-election hopes is decidedly putrid but the fact that weak minded idiots soak up that powerful but agonizingly irrelevant sentiment and use it to somehow DEFEND that idiot president you got down there is baffling. What happened on September 11th was a tragedy- but let's not forget that it happened on HIS watch (...of which most of that time he spent on holiday!) The Bush administration's 4 year record is riddled with incompetence, deceit, irresponsibly and rampant stupidity. Since that horrible day Bush and his evil minions have managed to bankrupt substantial international goodwill and evaporate any credibility America might have had in leading a global war on terror with their insane occupation of Iraq.
Yet half of you seem eager to let this fascist nut bar continue his rein!
What's WRONG with you people?
OK... we know there are lots of smart Americans down there. Its time for you to take time out of your selfish apathetic little day to stroll over and interrupt Clem's afternoon nap, sit him down and SOMEHOW get it though his thick skull that his "president" is a high functioning retard.
Tell them that you KNOW it sucks that y'all got it so completely and utterly wrong the first time- but the fact is: despite how many times he TELLS you to the contrary, he is a miserable failure of a leader and you simply can't let him continue embarrassing you on the world stage any longer.
Yes, we know that Kerry is rather unlikable... kind of stuffy and arrogant with a horribly monotone voice that just drones on... and... on....
Fine.
BUT he has some good ideas and a pretty good plan- plenty of integrity and is really quite smart and... and...um...
...and YES- he isn't Bush.
Tell them to get off their lazy brainwashed asses and read up on him- heck it might even be refreshing to actually have an understanding of this person they have been so successfully programmed to dislike. Besides, it certainly wouldn't kill 'em to read up on it... as foreign as it might be to get information NOT spoon fed to them by Mama Fox.
Its high time that the smarter more conscientious portion of America steps up and takes control of the bus.
Because quite frankly, if Bush gets back in it's fully YOUR fault.
Of course, if that is the case... the world is pretty much hooped.
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Its baffling that you actually consider that an actual argument for something. The problem is you THINK your smart- but sadly yer really quite clueless.
I mean there are a lot of words strung together... and you have done a wonderful job arranging them in proper sentences.
Good work on that.
We just need to work on your significant lack of substance, and there is definitely some room for improvement in your research.
Tsk Tsk- you actually give scrappleface.com as a source to debunk Kerry's Senate service? Um... it's a badly written right wing SATIRE site. Nice one!
Now, if I was American, I imagine I would lean towards Kerry- though its staggering to consider in a country of pert near 300 million- that these two are the best representatives you could dig up?
ANYways... do some actual research and stop cutting and pasting drivel.
As far as the UN is concerned the invasion of Iraq was illegal. Do a google search- click on a few links and see if you can't read a few other opinions rather than the one given to you. Attempt to move outside of the GOP approved sites and dig up some facts.
Sheesh- you know the most annoying thing about you right wingers is that you are so LAZY.
By the way, there are MANY fundamentally Republican attributes and doctrines that I find quite compelling. Just because you were unfortunate enough to get stuck with this mockery of a president- doesn't mean you have to stick with him for another 4 years.
Just admit you were wrong.... dust off another candidate and try again in 4 years. Bush has done a crappy job... I mean even look at that paltry list you put together... 7 of those things haven't even been accomplished- and probably never WILL be.
What about the economy?
What about international relations?
What about the environment?
I mean come on- pull yer head out of the oil- he's a failure.
A charismatic meathead.
And no... just because you used capitals does NOT mean you proved your point. Its still silly, unfounded and incredibly juvenile.
But of course, convincing you of that is pointless... you are too obtuse to change, you will just go on blathering your pre-programmed tripe to anyone who will listen.
Blah blah blah.
That is easily some of the lamest reasoning I have ever wasted my time trying to plow though.
I mean to be rude- you right wing morons are really just content to throw up a bunch of deflective nonsense aimed to frustrate and overwhelm the left and sound "smart" to the slack jawed yokels that so blindly support the blatant arrogance and rampant stupidity of your current administration.
Its weak. Its annoying and it simply CAN'T be allowed to be so effective any longer.
That's the worst part about this- is that this RIDICULOUS propaganda is actually working!
>"The fact that the rest of the world wants a change in leaders here in the U.S. is reason enough to vote for G.W.Bush for four more years!"
How does that make ANY sense at all? Are you in grade school? How childish can you possibly be to maintain that simply because the "world" says that you should vote for ANYone but Bush- that you should do the complete opposite? Were you the kind of kid that enjoyed running with scissors? I bet you were.
See, these are the kind of brainwashed morons that need to be sat down and educated by much smarter Americans. It is obvious that world opinion is categorically dismissed without consideration by these people- simply due to the fact that we are not "American". Talking to them from the outside is pointless- I mean its like a giant CULT and if there is any hope of averting 4 more years with that incompetent moron at the helm then you people on the inside have some serious deprogramming to do.
>"Its only slightly relevant here in the U.S. what the rest of the world thinks with regard to U.S. politics. The rest of the world knows Kerry as the do-nothing politician (see for yourself - his 20 year career in the Senate is summed up in 2 sentences on his own site http://www.johnkerry.com/) - exactly the kind of man they prefer in the White House, so the rest of the world can continue to do as they please." Riiiight...and what has Bush done in 4 years as president?
Of course, let's also consider that you aim to discredit John Kerry's service as a Senator by pointing out a summation on a website! How is that in ANY way valid? The purpose of a summation is to... gee, I don't know- BRIEFLY sum up? Ya dork.
And further to your last sentence- don't you really think that's the way it should be ANYways? After all that's the whole reason behind "sovereignty" in the first place.
>Do you think France, Germany and Russia had the Iraqi people's best interests in mind when they were using the Iraq Oil-For-Food program to rob Humanitarian Aid from the people of Iraq?" No of course not- but what does that have to do with the fact that as of right now the United States is responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis? Just because other countries were taking advantage of Iraq does not justify the death toll from your current occupation. That was then- this is now. I'm sure even someone of your limited capacity can appreciate that distinction.
>"Did Koffi Annan's obviously politically motivated 2-years-too-late statement about how the Coalition invasion of Iraq was illegal helped anyone at all? (Oh, of course it did help the terrorist's recruiting effort in the Middle East.)" YES! It should help you realize how wrong this entire campaign is. I mean you seem to acknowledge that it IS, in fact, an illegal war by international law- So your position is that the fact it came 2 years too late makes it irrelevant? That clearly makes no sense. (And throwing in some baseless correlation to the "terrorist recruiting effort" is just pathetic.)
> "How about the Darfur region. Do you honestly think that Russia or China have the best interests of the people of Darfur in mind when they oppose a strong resolution by the UN Security Council?" Again, we are talking about what is going on in Iraq RIGHT NOW. Using the "well what about them" argument is just plain ridiculous- especially in this situation.
> My point is, every Count
It gets irritating to constantly read through the badly regurgitated talking points that the right wing parrot crews typically spew out as substitution for an actual argument... BUT nothing is quite so loathsome as the shameful leveraging 9/11 for political gain.
The very fact that Bushco. is invoking the memory of such a devastatingly tragic event to somehow bolster his re-election hopes is decidedly putrid but the fact that weak minded idiots soak up that powerful but agonizingly irrelevant sentiment and use it to somehow DEFEND that idiot president you got down there is baffling. What happened on September 11th was a tragedy- but let's not forget that it happened on HIS watch (...of which most of that time he spent on holiday!) The Bush administration's 4 year record is riddled with incompetence, deceit, irresponsibly and rampant stupidity. Since that horrible day Bush and his evil minions have managed to bankrupt substantial international goodwill and evaporate any credibility America might have had in leading a global war on terror with their insane occupation of Iraq.
Yet half of you seem eager to let this fascist nut bar continue his rein!
What's WRONG with you people?
OK... we know there are lots of smart Americans down there. Its time for you to take time out of your selfish apathetic little day to stroll over and interrupt Clem's afternoon nap, sit him down and SOMEHOW get it though his thick skull that his "president" is a high functioning retard.
Tell them that you KNOW it sucks that y'all got it so completely and utterly wrong the first time- but the fact is: despite how many times he TELLS you to the contrary, he is a miserable failure of a leader and you simply can't let him continue embarrassing you on the world stage any longer.
Yes, we know that Kerry is rather unlikable... kind of stuffy and arrogant with a horribly monotone voice that just drones on... and... on....
Fine.
BUT he has some good ideas and a pretty good plan- plenty of integrity and is really quite smart and... and...um...
Tell them to get off their lazy brainwashed asses and read up on him- heck it might even be refreshing to actually have an understanding of this person they have been so successfully programmed to dislike. Besides, it certainly wouldn't kill 'em to read up on it... as foreign as it might be to get information NOT spoon fed to them by Mama Fox.
Its high time that the smarter more conscientious portion of America steps up and takes control of the bus.
Because quite frankly, if Bush gets back in it's fully YOUR fault.
Of course, if that is the case... the world is pretty much hooped.
So smarten up folks.