>Really? You think the Win95 security model was a good one?
I was unaware that Windows 95 came with a file system that supported permissions, much less the ability to install software from a trusted repository:p
Quit being overly dramatic, you're making yourself look like a fool.
Well, the developers were right and sadly had to put up with the security paranoia crowd. If you RTFA, you'll see that the reason that they wanted to do the no password for signed packages was because if you always have to type in your password to install something, after awhile you just get in the habit of typing in your password whenever that little window pops up. Their idea was that if password prompts are much more rare, you're more likely to pay attention.
The whole "OMG THE USERS WILL HAX0R THE MACHINES" argument is utter nonsense. If you're managing a machine for multiple users, then you should be savvy enough to disable the no password installs.
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Do you think that the iPhone would be the hottest selling phone with 100k apps if people actually cared about the things that Slashdotter's bitch about? I think not.
Ok, whatever, you happen to care. MOST (as in 99%) people don't.
I hate when someone around always chimes in "BUT NOT MEEEEE!", as though anyone on Slashdot is representative of a majority in any population outside of programming, lolcats, and Soviet Russia jokes.
People who use the iPhone don't care about things like this.
And I'm going to put forward that the approval process has less to do with developers leaving than the fact that the iPhone app market is quite saturated and the Android market is not.
Nothing to do with the topic, but I don't use Avahi...it's like the first thing I always uninstall from Ubuntu. It kills dns resolution on *.local domains.
>My problem with Chrome and other webkit browsers in Windows is that their non-javascript rendering is much slower than Opera, FF, and IE.
I haven't noticed Chrome being slow with anything...and I'm running on and older machine with a Pentium D and 2 gigs of ram. Can you post a site in particular that you've noticed being slow?
Nonsense. The problem is users who will install anything. And this would have no effect, since most users either run as admin, or would pop in the admin password without a second thought when installing software.
Does it somehow harm you if someone else thinks that this is a good feature? I'll repeat what I told someone else: if you aren't comfortable with this, don't use it.
>Wow, somebody has never used Linux before. This isn't windows dumbass.
I have used Linux on the desktop in various flavors for 4 years now. Don't be a presumptuous ass.
>It makes no sense to have this feature without at some point asking for the root password
If you're not comfortable with it, don't use it. That's what software freedom is all about. People can do what they want.
It makes sense if you want to be able to install trusted apps without having to enter or know the root password.
>With this exploit, you could automate rooting a box without the user ever having to type anything. Its a security hole, and a big bad one.
The possibility is so remote that it's ridiculous.
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Because they aren't all server managing IT nazis and this is a desktop OS that will most of the time be used by a single user?
>Really? You think the Win95 security model was a good one?
:p
I was unaware that Windows 95 came with a file system that supported permissions, much less the ability to install software from a trusted repository
Quit being overly dramatic, you're making yourself look like a fool.
Don't you be bringing the obvious logic into this discussion!
What's the difference between typing the password for the root account and typing your password for sudo, which gives you root privileges?
The problem is that a good amount of the Linux community is paranoid, insane, or both.
Well, the developers were right and sadly had to put up with the security paranoia crowd. If you RTFA, you'll see that the reason that they wanted to do the no password for signed packages was because if you always have to type in your password to install something, after awhile you just get in the habit of typing in your password whenever that little window pops up. Their idea was that if password prompts are much more rare, you're more likely to pay attention.
The whole "OMG THE USERS WILL HAX0R THE MACHINES" argument is utter nonsense. If you're managing a machine for multiple users, then you should be savvy enough to disable the no password installs.
Peace prize? Do you know how many flamewars have taken place across the internet among the various Linux tribes?
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There's a legal right to be able to used hacked consoles on XBox Live?
LOL, I like that you think you caught me in something when you didn't. It's cute.
Do you think that the iPhone would be the hottest selling phone with 100k apps if people actually cared about the things that Slashdotter's bitch about? I think not.
I don't have to reconcile them because I dislike both.
Ok, whatever, you happen to care. MOST (as in 99%) people don't.
I hate when someone around always chimes in "BUT NOT MEEEEE!", as though anyone on Slashdot is representative of a majority in any population outside of programming, lolcats, and Soviet Russia jokes.
Because you could never install the GIMP if it didn't come with the OS. OH NOES!
Someone will hate me for this, but they should get permissions from teh Googles to put Picasa in there.
How many users actually give two shits about what you just said? And how many of them would be incapable of going and getting a better photo editor?
>As a UI designer (as one of my hats) GIMP's design is very poor in my opinion, it stinks of being an afterthought of an application.
That's one of my main complaints about Linux software in general. Love the stability, hate the lack of polish.
People who use the iPhone don't care about things like this.
And I'm going to put forward that the approval process has less to do with developers leaving than the fact that the iPhone app market is quite saturated and the Android market is not.
Nothing to do with the topic, but I don't use Avahi...it's like the first thing I always uninstall from Ubuntu. It kills dns resolution on *.local domains.
>My problem with Chrome and other webkit browsers in Windows is that their non-javascript rendering is much slower than Opera, FF, and IE.
I haven't noticed Chrome being slow with anything...and I'm running on and older machine with a Pentium D and 2 gigs of ram. Can you post a site in particular that you've noticed being slow?
Nonsense. The problem is users who will install anything. And this would have no effect, since most users either run as admin, or would pop in the admin password without a second thought when installing software.
I'm going to assume that if someone can hack into my laptop, they aren't going to need something like this to make it "easier".
Why are corporate drones installing Fedora instead of Redhat?
Does it somehow harm you if someone else thinks that this is a good feature? I'll repeat what I told someone else: if you aren't comfortable with this, don't use it.
>Wow, somebody has never used Linux before. This isn't windows dumbass.
I have used Linux on the desktop in various flavors for 4 years now. Don't be a presumptuous ass.
>It makes no sense to have this feature without at some point asking for the root password
If you're not comfortable with it, don't use it. That's what software freedom is all about. People can do what they want.
It makes sense if you want to be able to install trusted apps without having to enter or know the root password.
>With this exploit, you could automate rooting a box without the user ever having to type anything. Its a security hole, and a big bad one.
The possibility is so remote that it's ridiculous.