Since Canvas7 is a cross platform application, most of it is abstracted from the OS. In our testing, we found it to be relatively stable. But then again, it is our first beta. We are hoping there there will be a good deal of feedback from the community to helping us make the app more stable. Towards that end, we've setup our own discussion forum for discussing issues with canvas for linux at: http://www.deneba.com/dazroot/support/forumdefau lt.html In our testing, we also found that a large number of the problems with Wine were rooted in window manager problems. To solve this we allow the user to select window manager settings according to the window manager they have. The user can also select an option to have the application operate without being managed by the window manager. This should eliminate a lot of the problems with stacking order that wpo has.
________________________________________________ ____ Michael Cardenas Lead Linux Programmer Deneba Software http://www.deneba.com
He's completely right. I'm trying to do professional development for linux at a proprietary software company and the director of r&d is very unimpressed when his screensaver doesn't work and gedit crashes opening a file! I mean come on. So much stuff in gnome works "some of the time" it's ridiculous. What happened to the open software model being so effective because man people can fix the bugs? It's not happening. I feel like there's been a lot of unrealistic hype about linux. I mean really, there isn't even an incremental linker! M$ can do it, but hundreds of programmers all over the world cant? And as a result my project takes 5 minutes to link?!?! This is really sorry...
First of all, isn't there a post link anywhere? I couldn't find one. I had to use the reply button just to post! Great layout guys...
I love linux as much as anyone. Actually, I convinced the company I work at to do a linux port which I am now heading, but I have a bone to pick - Modem installation!
I installed redhat at home and tried to setup my modem and it was a nightmare. A really bad one. And I'm an experienced programmer, I can't even imagine some newbie trying to setup a modem. I had to buy and return three different modems, read the books we have at work (running, nutshell, the wrox book, etc.) over and over, read many many web pages about installing modems, the modem howto, the serial howto, and the pnp howto, and eventually spend over a week to be able to use my modem in linux.
If linux is ever going to be mainstream, people need to be able to easily setup the most important peripheral they're ever going to have. The only one that _everyone_ is going to use _everyday_ ! Maybe someone can do a modemconfig that's as easy to use as sndconfig? I'm willing to work on it with anyone in the know about the krenel details involved.
I've worked in both windows and macintosh for quite some time, and I had a class using awt. I find that the horrible messaging system in windows basically forces you to write a plug in for windows, whereas the mac toolbox enables you to actually write code the way you want to. Aside from windows code being ugly as hell... As far as awt goes, there are a rich, reliable set of classes to be used there, but then you have to deal with the limitations/simplifications of java. (which kind of prohibits useful/messy down and dirty hacking) I think that java is too much like pascal and visual basic to really give you full control of what's going on. It basically insulates you from all the real api. I know thats the point, but the awt event model isn't any simpler. It doesnt seem to be much of a solution.
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Since Canvas7 is a cross platform application, most of it is abstracted from the OS. In our testing, we found it to be relatively stable. But then again, it is our first beta.u lt.html
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We are hoping there there will be a good deal of feedback from the community to helping us make the app more stable. Towards that end, we've setup our own discussion forum for discussing issues with canvas for linux at:
http://www.deneba.com/dazroot/support/forumdefa
In our testing, we also found that a large number of the problems with Wine were rooted in window manager problems. To solve this we allow the user to select window manager settings according to the window manager they have. The user can also select an option to have the application operate without being managed by the window manager. This should eliminate a lot of the problems with stacking order that wpo has.
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Michael Cardenas
Lead Linux Programmer
Deneba Software http://www.deneba.com
If someone would like to help us distribute Canvas for linux by providing a mirror, please contact mbc@deneba.com
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Thanks!
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Michael Cardenas
Lead Linux Programmer
Deneba Software http://www.deneba.com
You can read about it here:x /default.html
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http://www.deneba.com/dazroot/softlibs/cv7_linu
the feature list is rather long.
But basically, it's a bitmap/vector/publishing app for mac and windows and now linux!
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Michael Cardenas
Lead Linux Programmer
Deneba Software http://www.deneba.com
He's completely right. I'm trying to do professional development for linux at a proprietary software company and the director of r&d is very unimpressed when his screensaver doesn't work and gedit crashes opening a file! I mean come on. So much stuff in gnome works "some of the time" it's ridiculous. What happened to the open software model being so effective because man people can fix the bugs? It's not happening. I feel like there's been a lot of unrealistic hype about linux. I mean really, there isn't even an incremental linker! M$ can do it, but hundreds of programmers all over the world cant? And as a result my project takes 5 minutes to link?!?! This is really sorry...
First of all, isn't there a post link anywhere? I couldn't find one. I had to use the reply button just to post! Great layout guys...
I love linux as much as anyone. Actually, I convinced the company I work at to do a linux port which I am now heading, but I have a bone to pick - Modem installation!
I installed redhat at home and tried to setup my modem and it was a nightmare. A really bad one. And I'm an experienced programmer, I can't even imagine some newbie trying to setup a modem. I had to buy and return three different modems, read the books we have at work (running, nutshell, the wrox book, etc.) over and over, read many many web pages about installing modems, the modem howto, the serial howto, and the pnp howto, and eventually spend over a week to be able to use my modem in linux.
If linux is ever going to be mainstream, people need to be able to easily setup the most important peripheral they're ever going to have. The only one that _everyone_ is going to use _everyday_ ! Maybe someone can do a modemconfig that's as easy to use as sndconfig? I'm willing to work on it with anyone in the know about the krenel details involved.
I've worked in both windows and macintosh for quite some time, and I had a class using awt. I find that the horrible messaging system in windows basically forces you to write a plug in for windows, whereas the mac toolbox enables you to actually write code the way you want to. Aside from windows code being ugly as hell... As far as awt goes, there are a rich, reliable set of classes to be used there, but then you have to deal with the limitations/simplifications of java. (which kind of prohibits useful/messy down and dirty hacking) I think that java is too much like pascal and visual basic to really give you full control of what's going on. It basically insulates you from all the real api. I know thats the point, but the awt event model isn't any simpler. It doesnt seem to be much of a solution.