Does anyone else see how the passage of the patriot act will create more crime? Every new law that is passed concerning Americans' freedom to live and work as honest citizens will create more crime. There is always a way to get around it, and more so for the criminal mind. This poses a fun game for criminals..gives them some other challenge to overcome. I also see it as a WIN for terrorism. What delight they must have in knowing they were responsible for sending America in such a spin that these freedom strickening laws are even being discussed! It really isn't the kind of message I think we should be sending to these anti-life people. Just as crime in America would rise, terrorism will in turn take more of a hold on the world. Here is an example of this......Imagine something like a bully at school. He seeks to make the life of other students rough to gain attention. Good or bad is not the point, as long as he is getting some recognition for his bully ways. My mom always told me when others make fun or try to upset you....make it known you dont like it, and don't let them know it upset you. Seems that terrorism can be fit into this situation. If terrorists see us fearful, and adapting law to keep them out, they will try harder to get in. Really people...if something is going to happen, it will....putting tags on Americans like dogs is not the solution. Many argue..If you aren't doing anything wrong then what is to hide?.. It's not really an issue of wrong doing. The question in response should be..What did I do wrong to be treated criminally? I hope more people can see the patriot act as bad news and bad policy that isn't a solution. It's more of a punishment to the majority that will create crime. I know I would give up my right to drive sooner than I would agree to be tagged like a criminal.
Love the title on this thread....
It is interesting that more and more laws are made and based on what the wrong doers are doing. That essentially is penalzing the honest citizens, and giving the true criminals satisfaction in knowing America and Americans are afraid, and scrambling for ways to keep them out. This my friends is the perfect set up for a game! Any law that can be made can be broken, or gotten around. I will yell till I am blue in the face and passing out from lack of air that the patriot act WILL create more crime. As good people concerned for our freedoms, we should fight this till the end! Write letters, inform your friends and family what the government is trying to degrade America to....be relentless! If enough people speak up, there is no way legislation can vote this into effect. This is only one portion of the patriot act that undermines our freedoms. Get educated about it and DO SOMETHING about it.
I'm glad you took the initiative to be informed! I truely think if more Americans did that, they would notice how biased the traditional parties can be when it comes to 3rd party intervention!
The idea of free market would work assuming people would take responsibility for themselves, and hold businesses accountable for their actions. Really...whats the problem with that? The consumers should be able to demand the quality of service they deserve for the amount of money that is agreed a good exchange for that service. Where do you shop for groceries? Walmart, Meijer, or maybe a mom and pop type store in your community. You choose where to shop according to what service is valuble and reasonable to you. Free market at it's best.
Private fire departments, as you brought up....
most likey the firefighters would live in the same community. Don't you think people trained in firefighting and police already feel a duty to help, thus the reason for the job choice? And really, when thinking of a price for that private service, I believe most would be very grateful for the prompt response, and confidence in their effort to help, and would be willing to pay the agreed price for value of service. I'm not trying to disreguard your points, because they are valid issues, but I am trying to give another viewpoint based on the idea that people are basically good, and they are! Give them the opportunity to be responsible, and freedom to make responsible choices, and maybe one day we can all live much happier. I personally don't think honest people should be hindered by laws that are set up for the limited few that should be locked up and away from society. More government means more and more of our rights as beings..not even americans..but beings.. are slowly taken from us.
The point I was making was very clear. It is perfectly okay if you don't agree with all LP ideals, I am certian you feel strongly about whatever party you choose to put faith into and that's okay too. The point was in fact the current debate system is biased. I strongly feel all Americans should be able to view all choices and make the best decision they can based on the viewpoints presented to them. Wonder why so many don't vote? Because they are in apathy about our current government. I have heard many talk about feeling it won't matter if they vote democrat or republican, it will just be more of the same. I hope in the future more will choose to become educated and seek out information on candidates and parties available. Maybe then the government will better mirror the true political viewpoints of more Americans and promt them to get involved with what is happening around them.
You could take any choice in any situation imaginable for which some will revere the choice right, and others will condem it wrong. The fundamental reason for the choice Badnarik and Cobb made is at the heart of what our great country was founded on. IMHO, they were willing to go to jail in order to stand up for Americans' right to know through free speech. As candidates that will be appearing on ballots all over America, don't Americans have the right to see how they will stack up against democrats and republicans that have long been what most have consitered the only choices? I have great admiration for those so strong in their convictions they will continue to try when other methods fail, to make themselves heard and do so in a non violent fashion. Where would civil rights be today if it weren't for Dr. King and others that have stood up for what is protected to us under the Constitution? You don't have to be a 3rd party supporter to appreciate the message Badnarik and Cobb tried to convey last night, even if you don't feel they did it in the most correct manner. The debates are biased, and don't represent many political views that are valid and could be successful if given the chance to be heard. Thank you in advance for your support in allowing 3rd party candidates to the debates.
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Does anyone else see how the passage of the patriot act will create more crime? Every new law that is passed concerning Americans' freedom to live and work as honest citizens will create more crime. There is always a way to get around it, and more so for the criminal mind. This poses a fun game for criminals..gives them some other challenge to overcome. I also see it as a WIN for terrorism. What delight they must have in knowing they were responsible for sending America in such a spin that these freedom strickening laws are even being discussed! It really isn't the kind of message I think we should be sending to these anti-life people. Just as crime in America would rise, terrorism will in turn take more of a hold on the world. Here is an example of this......Imagine something like a bully at school. He seeks to make the life of other students rough to gain attention. Good or bad is not the point, as long as he is getting some recognition for his bully ways. My mom always told me when others make fun or try to upset you....make it known you dont like it, and don't let them know it upset you. Seems that terrorism can be fit into this situation. If terrorists see us fearful, and adapting law to keep them out, they will try harder to get in. Really people...if something is going to happen, it will....putting tags on Americans like dogs is not the solution. Many argue..If you aren't doing anything wrong then what is to hide?.. It's not really an issue of wrong doing. The question in response should be..What did I do wrong to be treated criminally? I hope more people can see the patriot act as bad news and bad policy that isn't a solution. It's more of a punishment to the majority that will create crime. I know I would give up my right to drive sooner than I would agree to be tagged like a criminal.
Love the title on this thread.... It is interesting that more and more laws are made and based on what the wrong doers are doing. That essentially is penalzing the honest citizens, and giving the true criminals satisfaction in knowing America and Americans are afraid, and scrambling for ways to keep them out. This my friends is the perfect set up for a game! Any law that can be made can be broken, or gotten around. I will yell till I am blue in the face and passing out from lack of air that the patriot act WILL create more crime. As good people concerned for our freedoms, we should fight this till the end! Write letters, inform your friends and family what the government is trying to degrade America to....be relentless! If enough people speak up, there is no way legislation can vote this into effect. This is only one portion of the patriot act that undermines our freedoms. Get educated about it and DO SOMETHING about it.
I'm glad you took the initiative to be informed! I truely think if more Americans did that, they would notice how biased the traditional parties can be when it comes to 3rd party intervention!
The idea of free market would work assuming people would take responsibility for themselves, and hold businesses accountable for their actions. Really...whats the problem with that? The consumers should be able to demand the quality of service they deserve for the amount of money that is agreed a good exchange for that service. Where do you shop for groceries? Walmart, Meijer, or maybe a mom and pop type store in your community. You choose where to shop according to what service is valuble and reasonable to you. Free market at it's best. Private fire departments, as you brought up.... most likey the firefighters would live in the same community. Don't you think people trained in firefighting and police already feel a duty to help, thus the reason for the job choice? And really, when thinking of a price for that private service, I believe most would be very grateful for the prompt response, and confidence in their effort to help, and would be willing to pay the agreed price for value of service. I'm not trying to disreguard your points, because they are valid issues, but I am trying to give another viewpoint based on the idea that people are basically good, and they are! Give them the opportunity to be responsible, and freedom to make responsible choices, and maybe one day we can all live much happier. I personally don't think honest people should be hindered by laws that are set up for the limited few that should be locked up and away from society. More government means more and more of our rights as beings..not even americans..but beings.. are slowly taken from us.
The point I was making was very clear. It is perfectly okay if you don't agree with all LP ideals, I am certian you feel strongly about whatever party you choose to put faith into and that's okay too. The point was in fact the current debate system is biased. I strongly feel all Americans should be able to view all choices and make the best decision they can based on the viewpoints presented to them. Wonder why so many don't vote? Because they are in apathy about our current government. I have heard many talk about feeling it won't matter if they vote democrat or republican, it will just be more of the same. I hope in the future more will choose to become educated and seek out information on candidates and parties available. Maybe then the government will better mirror the true political viewpoints of more Americans and promt them to get involved with what is happening around them.
You could take any choice in any situation imaginable for which some will revere the choice right, and others will condem it wrong. The fundamental reason for the choice Badnarik and Cobb made is at the heart of what our great country was founded on. IMHO, they were willing to go to jail in order to stand up for Americans' right to know through free speech. As candidates that will be appearing on ballots all over America, don't Americans have the right to see how they will stack up against democrats and republicans that have long been what most have consitered the only choices? I have great admiration for those so strong in their convictions they will continue to try when other methods fail, to make themselves heard and do so in a non violent fashion. Where would civil rights be today if it weren't for Dr. King and others that have stood up for what is protected to us under the Constitution? You don't have to be a 3rd party supporter to appreciate the message Badnarik and Cobb tried to convey last night, even if you don't feel they did it in the most correct manner. The debates are biased, and don't represent many political views that are valid and could be successful if given the chance to be heard. Thank you in advance for your support in allowing 3rd party candidates to the debates.