Dylan wasn't successful exactly because it didn't have Lisp's regular parentheses notation. This might sound strange if you don't know Lisp but once you've grokked what's so cool about it you'll realize that you actually need and want the syntax as it is now.
Hmm, he lists Lisp amongst the interpreted languages. I hope the rest of the article is more accurate...
Edi.
== Programming Language Myths ==
BASIC Myth: People who learn BASIC go on to learn other languages. Reality: Most people who learn BASIC go on to find less nerdy ways of writing "Mr. Gzabowski is a lame teacher" over and over again.
C Myth: C programs are insecure, full of buffer overflows and such. Reality: C programs are only insecure if written by imperfect programmers. Since all C programmers know that they are perfect, there's no problem.
COBOL Myth: COBOL is dead. Reality: It stalks from out the ancient vaults of death, its putrid mind drawn to the blood of the living.
Forth Myth: Forth makes no sense. Reality: backwards. think to have just you sense, perfect makes Forth
Java Myth: You need Java to do business applications. Reality: You need Java to get a job.
Lisp Myth: Lisp is an interpreted language. Reality: Lisp is COMPILED DAMMIT COMPILED! IT'S IN THE FUCKING STANDARD!!!
Pascal Myth: Pascal is a toy. Reality: Oh, wait, that is not a myth, it is true...
Perl Myth: Perl is impossible to read. Reality: You are not taking enough psychedelics.
Python Myth: Python's only problem is the whitespace thing. Reality: Python's only problem is that it is fucking slow.
If I click on the Gosling link you provided I get a "400 Bad Request" return code. In fact, weblogs.java.net currently returns 400 for every request. I suppose it's written in Java...
I've been using a 600 MHz Athlon with FICs SD-11 board (plus ATI Rage Fury) and I had major problems (Mandrake 7.0 and SuSE 6.4): 1. The kernel didn't see my 256 MB RAM without 'append="mem=256m"' in lilo.conf. 2. Every once in a while the system crashes as if someone had touched the reset button. 3. The system crashes immediately if I use any APM features. I hate to say it, but I don't have problems 2 and 3 with Windoze 98. The only good thing is that Win2k wasn't even able to install itself on this puppy...:)
I've just published a book about mathematical logic and set theory. As far as I know, almost every mathematical publishing house wants its authors to submit their manuscripts in TeX and doesn't accept other formats.
Everytime the name "BSD" is mentioned, some morons feel the urge to tell us that Linux "rulez" or stuff like that. Hey, what's your problem?
I'm using FreeBSD on my server and Linux on my laptop and I'm happy with both of them. I want to read news about both these operating systems on Slashdot.
I don't need news about Star Wars, but - hey, no problem - I simply don't read them.
If you really think that BSD systems shouldn't be mentioned here, why don't you propose a poll in that direction?
Two more things:
1. In case you still didn't realize: This article IS in the BSD section.
2. What about a statement like "Why don't you Linux cats give it up? Windows rulez the know universe - and then some" two or three years ago?
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Dylan wasn't successful exactly because it didn't have Lisp's regular parentheses notation. This might sound strange if you don't know Lisp but once you've grokked what's so cool about it you'll realize that you actually need and want the syntax as it is now.
LispWorks has a wonderful cross-platform GUI toolkit (Windows, Linux, OS X, several Unix versions) and costs US$ 1,100 per seat, not US$ 5,000.
Hmm, he lists Lisp amongst the interpreted languages. I hope the rest of the article is more accurate...
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Edi.
== Programming Language Myths ==
BASIC Myth: People who learn BASIC go on to learn other languages.
Reality: Most people who learn BASIC go on to find less nerdy ways of writing "Mr. Gzabowski is a lame teacher" over and over again.
C Myth: C programs are insecure, full of buffer overflows and such.
Reality: C programs are only insecure if written by imperfect programmers. Since all C programmers know that they are perfect, there's no problem.
COBOL Myth: COBOL is dead.
Reality: It stalks from out the ancient vaults of death, its putrid mind drawn to the blood of the living.
Forth Myth: Forth makes no sense.
Reality: backwards. think to have just you sense, perfect makes Forth
Java Myth: You need Java to do business applications.
Reality: You need Java to get a job.
Lisp Myth: Lisp is an interpreted language.
Reality: Lisp is COMPILED DAMMIT COMPILED! IT'S IN THE FUCKING STANDARD!!!
Pascal Myth: Pascal is a toy.
Reality: Oh, wait, that is not a myth, it is true
Perl Myth: Perl is impossible to read.
Reality: You are not taking enough psychedelics.
Python Myth: Python's only problem is the whitespace thing.
Reality: Python's only problem is that it is fucking slow.
If I click on the Gosling link you provided I get a "400 Bad Request" return code. In fact, weblogs.java.net currently returns 400 for every request. I suppose it's written in Java...
Somewhat offtopic but I was glad to see the reference to Frank Zappa in the story's title... :)
I've been using a 600 MHz Athlon with FICs SD-11 board (plus ATI Rage Fury) and I had major problems (Mandrake 7.0 and SuSE 6.4): 1. The kernel didn't see my 256 MB RAM without 'append="mem=256m"' in lilo.conf. 2. Every once in a while the system crashes as if someone had touched the reset button. 3. The system crashes immediately if I use any APM features. I hate to say it, but I don't have problems 2 and 3 with Windoze 98. The only good thing is that Win2k wasn't even able to install itself on this puppy... :)
Nothing against your list (altough I'd like to see Kurt Gödel in there) but it's "Wernher von Braun".
I've just published a book about mathematical logic and set theory. As far as I know, almost every mathematical publishing house wants its authors to submit their manuscripts in TeX and doesn't accept other formats.
I don't know about other sciences, though.
Everytime the name "BSD" is mentioned, some morons feel the urge to tell us that Linux "rulez" or stuff like that. Hey, what's your problem?
I'm using FreeBSD on my server and Linux on my laptop and I'm happy with both of them. I want to read news about both these operating systems on Slashdot.
I don't need news about Star Wars, but - hey, no problem - I simply don't read them.
If you really think that BSD systems shouldn't be mentioned here, why don't you propose a poll in that direction?
Two more things:
1. In case you still didn't realize: This article IS in the BSD section.
2. What about a statement like "Why don't you Linux cats give it up? Windows rulez the know universe - and then some" two or three years ago?
I hope everybody who is developing new browsers for Linux will also keep in mind FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD.