I wonder if the Guardian et al. are in danger of running afoul of the Official Secrets Act?
This would be cause for concern: "The Official Secrets Act 1989 (c. 6) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that repeals and replaces section 2 of the Official Secrets Act 1911, thereby removing the public interest defence created by that section."
Probably hundreds of thousands of people have worked for the NSA and only a small hand full of them have betrayed their country, stole secrets, and defected. You seem to expect that System Administrators are a big risk for stealing secrets and defecting. That would seem to both confirm the wisdom of the NSA in reducing their numbers while also denigrating the character of System Administrators as a class, that they would betray their country over a job. Do you really know that many people that shallow?
It looks to me like they are sharing architecture, not data, but I suppose both could work. Small groups can be logical, not just physical. Logical is easier to maintain with less headcount. I expect the NSA will be trying to shed contractors for this work. Since there is a grand jury investigating and issuing subpoenas to the company conducting the security clearance investigations I expect there will be some tightening.
The agency has created a private cloud using OpenStack, a Web standard developed by NASA and Rackspace Hosting Inc. Analysts say this lets the NSA run its IT operations in a way that more closely mirrors that of Amazon.com Inc. or Google Inc. Previously, it took weeks or months for employees at NSA to get access to computing resources, said Nathanael Burton, a computer scientist speaking at the OpenStack Summit in Portland in June. The private cloud “let us grow to a scale that a very small team of 12 to 15 people could manage,” he said.
“We’ve transformed the NSA and over the next few months we’re going to be working with the larger intelligence community to roll out our OpenStack system across the entire intelligence community,” said Mr. Burton in a video of the conference. The NSA did not respond to requests for comment.
I doubt there is much in the way of "motor commands" involved in data filtering. There would be motor commands involved in autonomous robots (DARPA Grand Challenge) especially when paired with image recognition and route selection.
The Cubans don't want them there, and they haven't cashed any of the checks for the 'rental'.
The previous Cuban government was content to cash the checks, and Castro's government did cash the first check they received. They haven't cashed more as a protest against the US by the communist Cuban government.
Since there were Cubans that crossed the fence from Cuba proper to Guantanamo and back to work on a daily basis until 9 months ago, there are do doubt some Cubans that were content to see them there. Most likely there would be well over a thousand Cubans working there as there were in the past, but the communist government won't allow retiring Cuban workers to be replaced by other Cubans. As a result, the very good wages by local standards are not being paid to Cubans, but to workers imported from the Dominican Republic and the Philippines. Given Cuba's anemic economy the communist Cuban government is harming Cuban workers to spite the US.
Since many Cubans have tried to escape Cuba over the years to get to the US, it seems likely that there are more fans of the US than you let on.
When Fidel Castro announced that his government would not stand in the way of Cubans who wanted to flee the island, Domingo Perera saw the chance he had been waiting for.
A carpenter, Perera already had made rafts and tried to leave, only to be thwarted and imprisoned four times. After Cuba opened the door in August 1994, Perera, his daughter and nine others launched a raft toward the United States....
Today, Perera, 55, is a published author who owns a tile business on Florida's Gulf Coast. He said he is glad he risked fleeing his homeland.
"I never complain about this country," he said. "I tell people, `You have to thank God that this country opened its doors to you.' "
During a month in 1994, more than 35,000 rafters, or balseros, left Cuba for the United States, many aboard flimsy homemade rafts.
In April of 1980, Cuban leader Fidel Castro declared the Port of Mariel open, permitting Cubans to freely depart for the U.S. In the next six months, an estimated 125,000 Cubans arrived in a massive wave on American shores. "Marielitos" remember their journeys on the 30th anniversary of the Mariel Boatlift.
I suspect that most of the Cuban people are bigger fans of the US than you. Maybe you have had a chance to wave a "Castro Si!" banner enough?
Joe Public is not meant to understand the law. Joe Public is just meant to stay afraid of the police so he is controllable.
"Controllable" in what sense? Not rioting? Or do you mean, more likely I trust, voting for a designated politician on command? (Which really doesn't happen in the UK or the US.)
I'm curious, what do you think "uncontrolled" members of the public should be doing?
Greenwald has not threatened to be more aggressive with his reporting regarding the UK secret services and to release more documents about their activities. Reuters made that up out of whole cloth, go read his actual words.
Apparently ACs can lie as well. Greenwald not only said he will be more aggressive, but more or less directly threatened the UK.
"I will be more aggressive in my reporting from now,” he told reporters in Portuguese at Rio de Janeiro’s airport where he met his boyfriend David Miranda who had flown from London to Brazil.
"I have many more documents to report on, including ones about the UK, where I'll now focus more," he said. "It'll backfire. I think they'll come to regret it."
Thank goodness they are accountable to voters in the event they do something that results in a massive loss of life or is damaging to the country. You wouldn't want them to be both unaccountable and above the law now, would you? Isn't pretty much everyone here supposed to hate lack of accountability and being above the law? I seem to remember it being the theme of some posts. I suppose there will always be the "Wikileaks exception" - it's bad if anyone else but Wikileaks is like that.
You seem think the terrorists are winning regardless of what happens. It is simple to see that they haven't won since the US hasn't converted to Islam and implemented Sharia as Bin Laden demanded. The terrorists are still losing.
Sorry, but you're wrong on this. The phrase, “sensitive intelligence sources or methods” specifically refers to spy satellites and signals intelligence. The Wikileaks disclosures were still a compromise of intelligence sources, just not the ones being referred to by that phrase. It was still a bad thing.
As to “there has not been a single case of Afghans needing protection or to be moved because of the leak.”" - The Taliban made it clear that they would hunt down anyone identified in the leaks. What isn't clear is if any of the spokespersons making claims that nobody was harmed were actually in a position to really know anything, or if they can actually personally attest to the safety of everyone on the list. I doubt that they can.
WikiLeaks said it decided to publish the entire collection after about half of the documents, also without redactions, were discovered to be available on a public server earlier in the week.
WikiLeaks has disavowed responsibility for that release, which consisted of about 100,000 secret cables, but said that as criticism of the group mounted, they were left with no alternative "rational action" but to release the entire collection....
For months WikiLeaks has found itself increasingly at odds with some of the media companies they had previously partnered with. Their ties with The New York Times strained after an unflattering profile of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appeared in the paper.
But this week's discovery of the 100,000 unredacted cables -- in which the names of government sources and other sensitive details were not obscured -- seemed to offer the final word on any effort to continue filtering the files through the mainstream media.
Some 250,000 diplomatic dispatches from the US State Department have accidentally been made completely public. The files include the names of informants who now must fear for their lives. It is the result of a series of blunders by WikiLeaks and its supporters.
In place of security theater you offer civil rights theater. You make extravagant claims of rights being lost that aren't supported by fact. Please, list the rights that you think have actually been lost. Will voting be on the list? Worship? Free speech?
Bogeymen don't have body counts, terrorists do. I agree that government shouldn't violate people's rights to stop imaginary bogeymen. I do think the government should take positive steps to stop terrorists from violating the rights of its citizens, such as when the terrorists kill or kidnap them. The right to life doesn't stop with the government.
As to whom it is that doesn't understand, I think that is you. Many people on Slashdot, and wider society, oppose even surveillance of people in direct communication with al Qaida for the purpose of planning and conducting terrorist attacks. They want to pretend that it is all a pretense for the intelligence agencies to spy on and suppress domestic political groups. Some narcissists are opposed to any surveillance at all more or less on the grounds that if it exists it could target them for some reason never explained. Some people appear to even be trying to establish a positive right for terrorists in communication with terrorist groups to occur and be protected. People are actually trying to create more rights to shield terrorists engaged in terrorism. That can't end well, and many people are indifferent (cough) to the outcome. They probably shouldn't be. Few populations that have effective access to the political process, as do people in most of the West, react well to regular incidents of mass slaughter. If you dislike the current situation I have little doubt you will like it even less if the terrorists are able to gain a foothold and begin an effective campaign of mass murder. The voters won't stand for it, and every law, including written Constitutions and unwritten, are subject to change with enough support from the population.
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I wonder if the Guardian et al. are in danger of running afoul of the Official Secrets Act?
This would be cause for concern: "The Official Secrets Act 1989 (c. 6) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that repeals and replaces section 2 of the Official Secrets Act 1911, thereby removing the public interest defence created by that section."
That law has some teeth of it, if it applies.
One for you. ;)
Probably hundreds of thousands of people have worked for the NSA and only a small hand full of them have betrayed their country, stole secrets, and defected. You seem to expect that System Administrators are a big risk for stealing secrets and defecting. That would seem to both confirm the wisdom of the NSA in reducing their numbers while also denigrating the character of System Administrators as a class, that they would betray their country over a job. Do you really know that many people that shallow?
On a related note: Bradley Manning: 25 years in prison? Or 60?
It looks to me like they are sharing architecture, not data, but I suppose both could work. Small groups can be logical, not just physical. Logical is easier to maintain with less headcount. I expect the NSA will be trying to shed contractors for this work. Since there is a grand jury investigating and issuing subpoenas to the company conducting the security clearance investigations I expect there will be some tightening.
It seems to work for Google and Amazon, I trust you've heard of them? Or did you have some insights about how what they do won't work for NSA?
Apparently they look for clues to organizations that have solved similar problems.
NSA Boosting Automation in Wake of Snowden Leaks
The agency has created a private cloud using OpenStack, a Web standard developed by NASA and Rackspace Hosting Inc. Analysts say this lets the NSA run its IT operations in a way that more closely mirrors that of Amazon.com Inc. or Google Inc. Previously, it took weeks or months for employees at NSA to get access to computing resources, said Nathanael Burton, a computer scientist speaking at the OpenStack Summit in Portland in June. The private cloud “let us grow to a scale that a very small team of 12 to 15 people could manage,” he said.
“We’ve transformed the NSA and over the next few months we’re going to be working with the larger intelligence community to roll out our OpenStack system across the entire intelligence community,” said Mr. Burton in a video of the conference. The NSA did not respond to requests for comment.
I doubt there is much in the way of "motor commands" involved in data filtering. There would be motor commands involved in autonomous robots (DARPA Grand Challenge) especially when paired with image recognition and route selection.
Not everything is about the NSA.
Grow up.
The Cubans don't want them there, and they haven't cashed any of the checks for the 'rental'.
The previous Cuban government was content to cash the checks, and Castro's government did cash the first check they received. They haven't cashed more as a protest against the US by the communist Cuban government.
Since there were Cubans that crossed the fence from Cuba proper to Guantanamo and back to work on a daily basis until 9 months ago, there are do doubt some Cubans that were content to see them there. Most likely there would be well over a thousand Cubans working there as there were in the past, but the communist government won't allow retiring Cuban workers to be replaced by other Cubans. As a result, the very good wages by local standards are not being paid to Cubans, but to workers imported from the Dominican Republic and the Philippines. Given Cuba's anemic economy the communist Cuban government is harming Cuban workers to spite the US.
Since many Cubans have tried to escape Cuba over the years to get to the US, it seems likely that there are more fans of the US than you let on.
1994 Cuban Exodus Remembered
When Fidel Castro announced that his government would not stand in the way of Cubans who wanted to flee the island, Domingo Perera saw the chance he had been waiting for.
A carpenter, Perera already had made rafts and tried to leave, only to be thwarted and imprisoned four times. After Cuba opened the door in August 1994, Perera, his daughter and nine others launched a raft toward the United States....
Today, Perera, 55, is a published author who owns a tile business on Florida's Gulf Coast. He said he is glad he risked fleeing his homeland.
"I never complain about this country," he said. "I tell people, `You have to thank God that this country opened its doors to you.' "
During a month in 1994, more than 35,000 rafters, or balseros, left Cuba for the United States, many aboard flimsy homemade rafts.
Marielitos' Stories, 30 Years After The Boatlift
In April of 1980, Cuban leader Fidel Castro declared the Port of Mariel open, permitting Cubans to freely depart for the U.S. In the next six months, an estimated 125,000 Cubans arrived in a massive wave on American shores. "Marielitos" remember their journeys on the 30th anniversary of the Mariel Boatlift.
I suspect that most of the Cuban people are bigger fans of the US than you. Maybe you have had a chance to wave a "Castro Si!" banner enough?
No, what would speak well of society is when every abuse of rights gets the same degree of outrage we see today.
I assume that doesn't cover outrages by criminals and terrorists. That doesn't seem to be in fashion.
Joe Public is not meant to understand the law. Joe Public is just meant to stay afraid of the police so he is controllable.
"Controllable" in what sense? Not rioting? Or do you mean, more likely I trust, voting for a designated politician on command? (Which really doesn't happen in the UK or the US.)
I'm curious, what do you think "uncontrolled" members of the public should be doing?
Greenwald has not threatened to be more aggressive with his reporting regarding the UK secret services and to release more documents about their activities. Reuters made that up out of whole cloth, go read his actual words.
Apparently ACs can lie as well. Greenwald not only said he will be more aggressive, but more or less directly threatened the UK.
Snowden leak journalist: Britain will 'regret' detaining partner at airport
"I will be more aggressive in my reporting from now,” he told reporters in Portuguese at Rio de Janeiro’s airport where he met his boyfriend David Miranda who had flown from London to Brazil.
"I have many more documents to report on, including ones about the UK, where I'll now focus more," he said. "It'll backfire. I think they'll come to regret it."
Lone Nepali Gorkha who subdued 40 train robbers
30 Taliban vs. 1 Gurkah results in Gallantry Cross for Acting Sergeant Dipprasad Pun
As a Gurkha is disciplined for beheading a Taliban: Thank God they are on our side! .... (For Mail haters)
I wonder if they will tax bitcoin mining discoveries? It is a means of value creation that would seem might attract attention for taxation.
On a related note, I wonder if they will try to force VAT (Value Added Tax) on bitcoin transactions?
Thank goodness they are accountable to voters in the event they do something that results in a massive loss of life or is damaging to the country. You wouldn't want them to be both unaccountable and above the law now, would you? Isn't pretty much everyone here supposed to hate lack of accountability and being above the law? I seem to remember it being the theme of some posts. I suppose there will always be the "Wikileaks exception" - it's bad if anyone else but Wikileaks is like that.
You seem think the terrorists are winning regardless of what happens. It is simple to see that they haven't won since the US hasn't converted to Islam and implemented Sharia as Bin Laden demanded. The terrorists are still losing.
Sorry, but you're wrong on this. The phrase, “sensitive intelligence sources or methods” specifically refers to spy satellites and signals intelligence. The Wikileaks disclosures were still a compromise of intelligence sources, just not the ones being referred to by that phrase. It was still a bad thing.
As to “there has not been a single case of Afghans needing protection or to be moved because of the leak.”" - The Taliban made it clear that they would hunt down anyone identified in the leaks. What isn't clear is if any of the spokespersons making claims that nobody was harmed were actually in a position to really know anything, or if they can actually personally attest to the safety of everyone on the list. I doubt that they can.
Afghans are not simply translating, they are turning against the Taliban. That is kind of dangerous. The Taliban have been known to hang 7 year old children suspected of being informants (or simply as revenge), when they aren't beheading people for dancing at weddings.
I note that you reference Greenwald. He doesn't really seem to be interested in stopping the barbarism of al Qaida and the Taliban.
Canada has concerns about protecting the sovereignty of its arctic territories. Snowmobiles could prove useful in that.
Battle for the Arctic heats up
Defending our sovereignty in the Arctic
Why everyone wants a piece of the Arctic
Unpalatable as ever, I guess.
Seven mistakes that cost De Menezes his life
My apologies, I misinterpreted what you had written. It indeed is the entire sentence that was lifted. You are correct.
Don't take credit for someone else's words.
You may have skipped over part of his sentence: "Napoleon declared to his troops ..."
That's not quite right.
WikiLeaks Secret Diplomatic Cables Released In Full
WikiLeaks said it decided to publish the entire collection after about half of the documents, also without redactions, were discovered to be available on a public server earlier in the week.
WikiLeaks has disavowed responsibility for that release, which consisted of about 100,000 secret cables, but said that as criticism of the group mounted, they were left with no alternative "rational action" but to release the entire collection....
For months WikiLeaks has found itself increasingly at odds with some of the media companies they had previously partnered with. Their ties with The New York Times strained after an unflattering profile of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appeared in the paper.
But this week's discovery of the 100,000 unredacted cables -- in which the names of government sources and other sensitive details were not obscured -- seemed to offer the final word on any effort to continue filtering the files through the mainstream media.
Leak at WikiLeaks: A Dispatch Disaster in Six Acts
Some 250,000 diplomatic dispatches from the US State Department have accidentally been made completely public. The files include the names of informants who now must fear for their lives. It is the result of a series of blunders by WikiLeaks and its supporters.
In place of security theater you offer civil rights theater. You make extravagant claims of rights being lost that aren't supported by fact. Please, list the rights that you think have actually been lost. Will voting be on the list? Worship? Free speech?
Bogeymen don't have body counts, terrorists do. I agree that government shouldn't violate people's rights to stop imaginary bogeymen. I do think the government should take positive steps to stop terrorists from violating the rights of its citizens, such as when the terrorists kill or kidnap them. The right to life doesn't stop with the government.
As to whom it is that doesn't understand, I think that is you. Many people on Slashdot, and wider society, oppose even surveillance of people in direct communication with al Qaida for the purpose of planning and conducting terrorist attacks. They want to pretend that it is all a pretense for the intelligence agencies to spy on and suppress domestic political groups. Some narcissists are opposed to any surveillance at all more or less on the grounds that if it exists it could target them for some reason never explained. Some people appear to even be trying to establish a positive right for terrorists in communication with terrorist groups to occur and be protected. People are actually trying to create more rights to shield terrorists engaged in terrorism. That can't end well, and many people are indifferent (cough) to the outcome. They probably shouldn't be. Few populations that have effective access to the political process, as do people in most of the West, react well to regular incidents of mass slaughter. If you dislike the current situation I have little doubt you will like it even less if the terrorists are able to gain a foothold and begin an effective campaign of mass murder. The voters won't stand for it, and every law, including written Constitutions and unwritten, are subject to change with enough support from the population.