Injuries to Zimmerman’s Head Were Potentially Life Threatening Further testimony from Dr. Di Maio emphasized the life-threatening danger of blows to the head. He noted that intracranial bleeding is hidden, and often does not cause death until some hours after the injury that caused it. He also noted that axonal injury can occur even besides bleeding, causing brain damage. This undermines the State’s arguments that the blows to Zimmermans’ head were inconsequential and could not have represented the reasonable threat of death or grave bodily harm necessary to justify Zimmerman’s use of deadly force in self-defense.
The man job of the FISA court is to process warrant requests. Even in regular courts that is a one sided affair. The FISA court doesn't conduct trials of suspects.
In order to be accorded the full privileges and protections of the Geneva Convention you must wage war in a lawful manner. That is part of the treaty enforcement mechanism. Al Qaida and its associates do not do so and are therefore not entitled to the full privileges and protections. The US does act in accordance with the treaty, you just seem unfamiliar with its terms, or perhaps have listened to advocates that wish the treaty was other than it is.
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
Is "uppity" a synonym for conducting a life endangering assault? After all, that is what Martin did - there is plenty of evidence of it, including medical and forensic evidence.
It is the Left that promotes racial tribalism in America, not the right. The only place where you hear the subject of race traitors in "respectable" company in America is among progressives when they refer to black or Hispanic conservatives. Hatred of "Zionists" or "Zionism" is often a fig leaf for hatred of Israelis, if not in fact Jews. In this the American Left is coming ever closer to resembling the European Left.
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
Today can only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman’s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense.
The "unnecessary" part of the situation was Martin attacking Zimmerman. And yes, sad to say, 17 year old Trayvon Martin had traveled some way down the path of becoming a thug as you suggest.
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
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and please stop referencing MMA Since you obviously have no idea what it is
Is "uppity" a synonym for conducting a life endangering assault? After all, that is what Martin did - there is plenty of evidence of it, including medical and forensic evidence.
After Martin jumped Zimmerman, banged his head against the curb multiple times, and was on top of him throwing MMA style punches, Zimmerman understood his life was in immediate danger, and was able to pull his weapon and shoot Martin to stop the threat to his life.
One hint that you might be out towards the fever swamp fringe is to claim that Slashdot moderation is biased towards conservatives. That doesn't mean that nothing is moderated from a conservative view, and fair minded people with personal disciple can moderate reasonably fairly despite their affiliation. But keep in mind that Slashdot has a lot of readers from Europe and the Anglosphere. Neither Europe nor the Anglosphere minus the US have been famous for conservative movements for quite some time. Slashdot also has a big liberal and progressive following from the US as well. Europe + Anglosphere + US liberals and progressives + (libertarians on social issues) = quite a tendency toward left thinking on Slashdot.
Ho Chi Minh was a communist, and that is pretty much always on the left even if there are left and right factions in any party.
If you want to continue your education about the history of socialist rule, try watching this: The Soviet Story
You can spare me any arguments that communism has never been implemented properly as many have tried. It isn't possible. The video above points out some of the issues. It is a bloody mess pretty much everywhere it's tried.
1. Evidence about Martin's background would help the jury assess his character and might speak to his motivation. It looks like they were barely able to get in the results of the toxicology report that showed Martin still had traces of marijuana in his blood. 2. Zimmerman wasn't aggressive in getting out of his car. If he had closed the distance and attacked Martin, that would be aggression, assault. Martin was the one that attacked Zimmerman. He was on top of him throwing MMA style punches when he was shot. 3. "Stand your ground" was never a part of the case, ever. It was part of inflamed commentary. Zimmerman didn't attack Martin.
Race had nothing to do with the case. It was simple self-defense. Martin attacked Zimmerman by surprise, started beating his head against the curb, and was on top of his throwing MMA type punches. Zimmerman's life was in immediate peril, but he was able to pull his gun and shoot Martin. To the extent that race played a part, it was generally working against Zimmerman in that many commentators soft pedaled, concealed, or ignored derogatory information about Martin, as well as exculpatory information about Zimmerman. NBC doctored audio to make Zimmerman appear racist. The media kept referring to Zimmerman as white, when he is Hispanic with a black grandfather (or maybe great-grandfather). Despite the fact that pictures of the grown Martin were available, including ones showing some more troubling aspects of his life, the media kept showing pictures of him when he was much younger and innocent appearing. The media downplayed Martin's troubled history, and participation in fight club type activity, and his interest in martial arts. It goes on, and on, and on. Probably because of Zimmerman's name, the media was out for a lynching of what they thought was a white guy that had killed a young black man. They often got things wrong, and stirred the pot. Even the US Justice department engaged in some troubling behavior.
Based on your flavor of your questions I have the sense that you may have gotten most of the commentary on this case from a particular slice of the web that hasn't always provided good information on this. My suggestion is that you do some reading at this site Legal Insurrection. It has some interesting and informed commentary, by actual lawyers, on the case. Fair warning - you may not like what you read, but it is likely to be much more legally accurate and closer to the truth than what it sounds like you have been reading. The truth doesn't always taste good when it doesn't fit our expectations.
The charges filed against Zimmerman, and that the trial went forward on, was 2nd degree murder. The prosecutor only added manslaughter at the last minute after the judge wouldn't let him add 3rd degree murder (due to "child abuse") as a change, just days before the case wen to the jury.
The case against Zimmerman is weak at best, and certainly appears to be politically motivated. That doesn't mean he won't be convicted though. The site Legal Insurrection has some interesting and informed commentary, by actual lawyers!
I hope he does sue, and that he wins. It may be an uphill battle though. Prosecutors have tremendous discretion in how they conduct cases, and enormous protection under the law, although it looks to me like this is well over the line. Besides suing, he should consider bringing a complaint before the Bar. Not turning over possible exculpatory evidence would seem to be an ethics violation.
I can't say this is surprising though since the prosecution appears to be motivated more my politics than the actual legal situation.
I am happy to agree with President Obama on this matter, and believe that President George H.W. Bush's position is ill considered. I wonder if he ever tried the one below?
Further, the president keeps spewing this bullshit about how his "number one job" is to "protect the american people" and "keep the country safe". The FUCK it is. . . . His sole job is to preserve (not change) and protect and defend the Constitution. Period. Not to change it. Not to violate it. Not to push programs that spit in the face of it. . . . but to uphold it. Yet, I have never seen or heard one reporter or one talking head anywhere under any circumstances raise this in response to the bullshit he spews.
Looking at the Presidential oath, I show in bold below the portion of the oath that you say is the President's job.
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Unfortunately you've left something out, a big something that I show below in bold
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
The two sections are linked with an "AND," they are two different clauses. There are two different aspects of the President's job. Other than the court system, practically everything that the government does that an ordinary citizen would encounter falls under the purview of the Executive branch, of which the President is the head. As head of the Executive branch of government, he is responsible for seeing that the law is carried out, and that the government functions. That is a pretty big thing to leave out.
You skip over the many things specified in the text of Article II of the Constitution. These are the duties of the President of the United States, as specified in the Constitution. I will note that you claim that it isn't the President's job to "protect the American people" flies into the face of the text of the Constitution. Article II section 2 of the Constitution's first statement is that the President is Commander in Chief of the armed forces. That role makes him directly responsible for the defense, the protection, of the American people.
Section. 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. Section. 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information on the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or eit
It was a proclamation that every child, and many adults, have dreamed of making.
President Bush declared today that he never, ever, wants to see another sprig of broccoli on his plate, whether he is on Air Force One or at the White House or anywhere else in the land.
''I do not like broccoli,'' the President said, responding to queries about a broccoli ban he has imposed aboard Air Force One, first reported this week in U.S. News and World Report. ''And I haven't liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I'm President of the United States, and I'm not going to eat any more broccoli!''
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Trayvon Martin was a violent, racist sociopath, eh? Sounds like you're the one constructing a narrative separate from the facts.
There is certainly plenty to know.
Saturday Night Card Game (Would Zimmerman case have been filed if “creepy ass cracker” comment known?)
Trayvon Martin’s Involvement In Local Burglaries Covered Up By Media, School, Police, Prosecutors
Has State Opened Door to Defense Introducing Martin Fight Video?
Zimmerman judge excludes Trayvon Martin fighting, social media and marijuana use
Trayvon Martin was suspended three times from school
Noted Forensic Pathologist Says Zimmerman Story “Consistent” with Evidence, As Defense Case Nears End
Racial politics supported by State power come down on George Zimmerman
In Audio Recording, Department of Justice Official Urges Protesters to Seek ‘Justice’ for Trayvon Martin
I don't think at any time was Zimmerman's life was in danger.
Noted Forensic Pathologist Says Zimmerman Story “Consistent” with Evidence, As Defense Case Nears End
Injuries to Zimmerman’s Head Were Potentially Life Threatening
Further testimony from Dr. Di Maio emphasized the life-threatening danger of blows to the head. He noted that intracranial bleeding is hidden, and often does not cause death until some hours after the injury that caused it. He also noted that axonal injury can occur even besides bleeding, causing brain damage. This undermines the State’s arguments that the blows to Zimmermans’ head were inconsequential and could not have represented the reasonable threat of death or grave bodily harm necessary to justify Zimmerman’s use of deadly force in self-defense.
The man job of the FISA court is to process warrant requests. Even in regular courts that is a one sided affair. The FISA court doesn't conduct trials of suspects.
In order to be accorded the full privileges and protections of the Geneva Convention you must wage war in a lawful manner. That is part of the treaty enforcement mechanism. Al Qaida and its associates do not do so and are therefore not entitled to the full privileges and protections. The US does act in accordance with the treaty, you just seem unfamiliar with its terms, or perhaps have listened to advocates that wish the treaty was other than it is.
Instead of posting about penises you should consider spending your time seeking evidence. Then you wouldn't get that wrong.
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
Is "uppity" a synonym for conducting a life endangering assault? After all, that is what Martin did - there is plenty of evidence of it, including medical and forensic evidence.
Thanks to the Southern Strategy, conservatism and racism now go hand-in-hand in this country.
Rubbish.
The “Southern Strategy” Debunked Again
It is the Left that promotes racial tribalism in America, not the right. The only place where you hear the subject of race traitors in "respectable" company in America is among progressives when they refer to black or Hispanic conservatives. Hatred of "Zionists" or "Zionism" is often a fig leaf for hatred of Israelis, if not in fact Jews. In this the American Left is coming ever closer to resembling the European Left.
The European Left and Its Trouble With Jews
I think there are very few Americans who actually cheered the death of Trayvon Martin.
Since the insight eludes you, Zimmerman could be taken for a German name which might suggest European ethnicity.
George Zimmerman's father: My son is not racist, did not confront Trayvon Martin
"George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. "
Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman's Race Is A Complicated Matter
Is this really that hard? I'm pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.
In furtherance of your post:
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL BLOCKBUSTER — TRANSCRIPT — Eyewitness Good: Black guy in black hoodie on top punching down Mixed Martial Arts style
Has State Opened Door to Defense Introducing Martin Fight Video?
Zimmerman Trial Day 2 – Analysis of State’s Witnesses
Today can only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman’s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense.
Noted Forensic Pathologist Says Zimmerman Story “Consistent” with Evidence, As Defense Case Nears End
The "unnecessary" part of the situation was Martin attacking Zimmerman. And yes, sad to say, 17 year old Trayvon Martin had traveled some way down the path of becoming a thug as you suggest.
I think what you are saying hints at something we should all be able to come together on in agreement, whether you are on the left, right, or center:
Never, ever listen to Joe Biden. - Biden Advises Gun Owners to Act Illegally
Maxwell's demon
you mean after Zimmerman ignored orders to stop following Martin?
Not so much, no.
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30). The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:
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and please stop referencing MMA Since you obviously have no idea what it is
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL BLOCKBUSTER — TRANSCRIPT — Eyewitness Good: Black guy in black hoodie on top punching down Mixed Martial Arts style
You aren't getting this right.
Is "uppity" a synonym for conducting a life endangering assault? After all, that is what Martin did - there is plenty of evidence of it, including medical and forensic evidence.
Then you spent your mod points well. That summary was rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Please, show evidence of badgering. Martin jumped Zimmerman.
Zimmerman didn't badger Martin into a fight.
After Martin jumped Zimmerman, banged his head against the curb multiple times, and was on top of him throwing MMA style punches, Zimmerman understood his life was in immediate danger, and was able to pull his weapon and shoot Martin to stop the threat to his life.
There are no doubt plenty more to find.
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One hint that you might be out towards the fever swamp fringe is to claim that Slashdot moderation is biased towards conservatives. That doesn't mean that nothing is moderated from a conservative view, and fair minded people with personal disciple can moderate reasonably fairly despite their affiliation. But keep in mind that Slashdot has a lot of readers from Europe and the Anglosphere. Neither Europe nor the Anglosphere minus the US have been famous for conservative movements for quite some time. Slashdot also has a big liberal and progressive following from the US as well. Europe + Anglosphere + US liberals and progressives + (libertarians on social issues) = quite a tendency toward left thinking on Slashdot.
Ho Chi Minh was a communist, and that is pretty much always on the left even if there are left and right factions in any party.
If you want to continue your education about the history of socialist rule, try watching this: The Soviet Story
You can spare me any arguments that communism has never been implemented properly as many have tried. It isn't possible. The video above points out some of the issues. It is a bloody mess pretty much everywhere it's tried.
1. Evidence about Martin's background would help the jury assess his character and might speak to his motivation. It looks like they were barely able to get in the results of the toxicology report that showed Martin still had traces of marijuana in his blood.
2. Zimmerman wasn't aggressive in getting out of his car. If he had closed the distance and attacked Martin, that would be aggression, assault. Martin was the one that attacked Zimmerman. He was on top of him throwing MMA style punches when he was shot.
3. "Stand your ground" was never a part of the case, ever. It was part of inflamed commentary. Zimmerman didn't attack Martin.
Race had nothing to do with the case. It was simple self-defense. Martin attacked Zimmerman by surprise, started beating his head against the curb, and was on top of his throwing MMA type punches. Zimmerman's life was in immediate peril, but he was able to pull his gun and shoot Martin. To the extent that race played a part, it was generally working against Zimmerman in that many commentators soft pedaled, concealed, or ignored derogatory information about Martin, as well as exculpatory information about Zimmerman. NBC doctored audio to make Zimmerman appear racist. The media kept referring to Zimmerman as white, when he is Hispanic with a black grandfather (or maybe great-grandfather). Despite the fact that pictures of the grown Martin were available, including ones showing some more troubling aspects of his life, the media kept showing pictures of him when he was much younger and innocent appearing. The media downplayed Martin's troubled history, and participation in fight club type activity, and his interest in martial arts. It goes on, and on, and on. Probably because of Zimmerman's name, the media was out for a lynching of what they thought was a white guy that had killed a young black man. They often got things wrong, and stirred the pot. Even the US Justice department engaged in some troubling behavior.
In Audio Recording, Department of Justice Official Urges Protesters to Seek ‘Justice’ for Trayvon Martin
Based on your flavor of your questions I have the sense that you may have gotten most of the commentary on this case from a particular slice of the web that hasn't always provided good information on this. My suggestion is that you do some reading at this site Legal Insurrection. It has some interesting and informed commentary, by actual lawyers, on the case. Fair warning - you may not like what you read, but it is likely to be much more legally accurate and closer to the truth than what it sounds like you have been reading. The truth doesn't always taste good when it doesn't fit our expectations.
The site Legal Insurrection has some interesting and informed commentary about the trial, by actual lawyers.
Well of course you would answer that way, you are part of the problem.
Your sig kind of gives you away too.
I agree with you that he should sue, and win.
The charges filed against Zimmerman, and that the trial went forward on, was 2nd degree murder. The prosecutor only added manslaughter at the last minute after the judge wouldn't let him add 3rd degree murder (due to "child abuse") as a change, just days before the case wen to the jury.
The case against Zimmerman is weak at best, and certainly appears to be politically motivated. That doesn't mean he won't be convicted though. The site Legal Insurrection has some interesting and informed commentary, by actual lawyers!
Racial politics supported by State power come down on George Zimmerman
In Audio Recording, Department of Justice Official Urges Protesters to Seek ‘Justice’ for Trayvon Martin
Branco Cartoon – Fanning the Flames ---> example ---> George Zimmerman Sues NBC Over Edited 911 Tape
I hope he does sue, and that he wins. It may be an uphill battle though. Prosecutors have tremendous discretion in how they conduct cases, and enormous protection under the law, although it looks to me like this is well over the line. Besides suing, he should consider bringing a complaint before the Bar. Not turning over possible exculpatory evidence would seem to be an ethics violation.
I can't say this is surprising though since the prosecution appears to be motivated more my politics than the actual legal situation.
In Audio Recording, Department of Justice Official Urges Protesters to Seek ‘Justice’ for Trayvon Martin
Branco Cartoon – Fanning the Flames
Racial politics supported by State power come down on George Zimmerman
I am happy to agree with President Obama on this matter, and believe that President George H.W. Bush's position is ill considered. I wonder if he ever tried the one below?
Broccoli-Raisin salad is tasty indeed.
Further, the president keeps spewing this bullshit about how his "number one job" is to "protect the american people" and "keep the country safe". The FUCK it is. . . . His sole job is to preserve (not change) and protect and defend the Constitution. Period. Not to change it. Not to violate it. Not to push programs that spit in the face of it. . . . but to uphold it. Yet, I have never seen or heard one reporter or one talking head anywhere under any circumstances raise this in response to the bullshit he spews.
Looking at the Presidential oath, I show in bold below the portion of the oath that you say is the President's job.
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Unfortunately you've left something out, a big something that I show below in bold
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
The two sections are linked with an "AND," they are two different clauses. There are two different aspects of the President's job. Other than the court system, practically everything that the government does that an ordinary citizen would encounter falls under the purview of the Executive branch, of which the President is the head. As head of the Executive branch of government, he is responsible for seeing that the law is carried out, and that the government functions. That is a pretty big thing to leave out.
You skip over the many things specified in the text of Article II of the Constitution. These are the duties of the President of the United States, as specified in the Constitution. I will note that you claim that it isn't the President's job to "protect the American people" flies into the face of the text of the Constitution. Article II section 2 of the Constitution's first statement is that the President is Commander in Chief of the armed forces. That role makes him directly responsible for the defense, the protection, of the American people.
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
Article II
Section. 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads
of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. Section. 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information on the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or eit
Obama claims broccoli is his favorite food
Quite a contrast to President George HW Bush: 'I'm President,' So No More Broccoli!
It was a proclamation that every child, and many adults, have dreamed of making.
President Bush declared today that he never, ever, wants to see another sprig of broccoli on his plate, whether he is on Air Force One or at the White House or anywhere else in the land.
''I do not like broccoli,'' the President said, responding to queries about a broccoli ban he has imposed aboard Air Force One, first reported this week in U.S. News and World Report. ''And I haven't liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I'm President of the United States, and I'm not going to eat any more broccoli!''
Libertarianism: being based on axioms, how can it be wrong?!
Fault them if you will, but at least the Libertarians haven't gone anywhere nearly as wrong as the Marxists. Not even close.