That's funny. From the story he picked out the portion on the Patriot Act and ignored the main aspect of the story which was Franken's defense of the NSA while claiming that it "doesn't seem like something Franken would do." If there was deception it was entirely his. Besides that, if people want to make broad statements about the wonderfulness of Franken like, "Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate" it seems reasonable that statement is open to question. Or are you under the mistaken belief that we can only join in on heaping praise on Franken and may not question him? Do you prefer choir practice to debate?
I'm pretty certain that statements like, "Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate" aren't really related to net neutrality either, are they?
I think you have some more mining to do idea-wise.
You probably intend to be offensive with your post, but mainly I find it pathetic on your part. Maybe you should seek help, like some counseling for rage and depression.
Or maybe you are spamming that link and people who bothered to read it are down voting it as deceptive?
No, that's not it. The early moderation in the story was modding up any fluffy pro-Franken comment and modding down anything that questioned that. And the link isn't deceptive, your post is. Either that or you should go back and read that story at the link from the top since you left out meaningful parts of it in a way that distorts the meaning of the story. I'm sure it was unintentional. And I hope you stop spamming your comment.
By the way, I see what you did there. Your post was cleverly worded to imply that a vote by a convicted felon is legal when it isn't until their voting rights are restored at the end of their sentence. You aren't really stating that you know that those felons were voting legally, are you? Their names, voting registration, and sentencing status would be public record.
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people."
Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
It seems you may not really understand Franken's position as well as you think. Or do you actually understand it, and want to confuse people so they don't realize what Franken has actually been up to?
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people."
Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
It seems you may not really understand Franken's position as well as you think.
You are confused on a couple of points. First, it wouldn't be illegal to take a way the right to vote of a convicted felon since it is the legislature doing it by passing a law. Second, losing the right to vote doesn't make someone subhuman.
It's pretty simple. Pretty much everyone that is a citizen and hasn't committed a felony gets to vote if they want to (which is generally a subset of eligible voters anyway). In some states the right to vote can be restored. The restriction is based on criminal behavior not class, race, sex, age, or other factors. I doubt that many felons were going to vote for Franken's opponent - a former chief prosecutor. There may have also been some indication of the felon's leanings for voting based on the voter registration - Democrat or Republican.
The law is the law when it comes to voting. You can lose the right to vote by committing a felony just like you can lose your freedom. It may not sit well with you, but there it is. Do you want a society that respects the rule of law or not?
The number of felons that voted in the election were larger than Franken's vote margin of "victory." I seem to recall there were other problems as well.
Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate.
Really? Then you'll be interested in the items below. I assume you'll agree with him since you describe him as " one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate."
It's pretty lonely to be the National Security Agency right now. The revelation of a massive data-collection program has left many progressive senators criticizing the agency, from Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M., to Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn. But one of the other most liberal senators in Congress is so far speaking out in NSA's support: Al Franken.
Franken, the Minnesota Democrat who is on the Senate Judiciary Committee, knew about the data-mining. Or at least that's what he told Minnesota's WCCO on Tuesday. "I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people," Franken said. The senator also believes the data collection has saved American lives:
I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us, and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism. There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know.
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people." Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
Well, who can argue with Al Franken since he is "...one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate"?
Unfortunately Al Franken owes his election to vote fraud.
Did illegal felon voters determine the outcome of the critical 2008 Minnesota Senate election? The day after the election, GOP Senator Norm Coleman had a 725 vote lead, but a series of recounts over the next six months reversed that result and gave Democrat Al Franken a 312 vote victory.
The outcome wound up having a significant impact, giving Democrats the critical 60th Senate vote they needed to block GOP filibusters. Mr. Franken's vote proved crucial in the passage of ObamaCare last December in the Senate. The next month Democrats lost their 60-vote Senate majority with the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts.
Ever since Mr. Franken was declared the victor, the conservative watchdog group Minnesota Majority has combed through records comparing lists of those who voted with criminal rap sheets. It found that at least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's
Al Franken would regain what respect I had for him if he went back to doing comedy on TV and in the movies for audiences instead of doing it in the Senate on the American people. "Astute" is not the word that comes to mind when I think of Franken.
Slashdot Mirror
The question they're scratching their heads over now is how the plasma trails left by meteors can emit radio waves at this frequency.'
That's odd, I thought they had it all figured out. (shrug) I guess there is more to learn than most people figure.
It really does bother some people. But if you don't think it is a deterrent, then why complain if people lose it since they apparently don't value it?
That's funny. From the story he picked out the portion on the Patriot Act and ignored the main aspect of the story which was Franken's defense of the NSA while claiming that it "doesn't seem like something Franken would do." If there was deception it was entirely his. Besides that, if people want to make broad statements about the wonderfulness of Franken like, "Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate" it seems reasonable that statement is open to question. Or are you under the mistaken belief that we can only join in on heaping praise on Franken and may not question him? Do you prefer choir practice to debate?
I'm pretty certain that statements like, "Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate" aren't really related to net neutrality either, are they?
I think you have some more mining to do idea-wise.
I think Franken is more like a toad, combining the less appealing aspects of the chipmunk and snake. Plus it pees on your hand if you pick it up.
You probably intend to be offensive with your post, but mainly I find it pathetic on your part. Maybe you should seek help, like some counseling for rage and depression.
And it still is! The whole US population, Europe, and the rest of the intertubes are keeping it a secret from this man:
Mr. Alphonse Di Rossi
1352 8th Avenue South #510B
Sarasota FL 34231
As long as he doesn't find out it is still a secret.
Mums the word. ;)
Or maybe you are spamming that link and people who bothered to read it are down voting it as deceptive?
No, that's not it. The early moderation in the story was modding up any fluffy pro-Franken comment and modding down anything that questioned that. And the link isn't deceptive, your post is. Either that or you should go back and read that story at the link from the top since you left out meaningful parts of it in a way that distorts the meaning of the story. I'm sure it was unintentional. And I hope you stop spamming your comment.
By the way, I see what you did there. Your post was cleverly worded to imply that a vote by a convicted felon is legal when it isn't until their voting rights are restored at the end of their sentence. You aren't really stating that you know that those felons were voting legally, are you? Their names, voting registration, and sentencing status would be public record.
... it doesn't seem like that's something Franken would do so I checked it out. Have you even read it?
You seem to have skipped some things there. (Was it an "accident"?) Lets add a bit more, shall we?
Franken defends NSA surveillance
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people."
Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
It seems you may not really understand Franken's position as well as you think. Or do you actually understand it, and want to confuse people so they don't realize what Franken has actually been up to?
... it doesn't seem like that's something Franken would do so I checked it out. Have you even read it?
Yes, I did read it, and better than you apparently. You seem to have skipped some things there. Lets add a bit more, shall we?
Franken defends NSA surveillance
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people."
Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
It seems you may not really understand Franken's position as well as you think.
You are confused on a couple of points. First, it wouldn't be illegal to take a way the right to vote of a convicted felon since it is the legislature doing it by passing a law. Second, losing the right to vote doesn't make someone subhuman.
Yes, that is the sort of moderation I was speaking of.
Until their right to vote is restored it would be illegal for them to vote.
It's pretty simple. Pretty much everyone that is a citizen and hasn't committed a felony gets to vote if they want to (which is generally a subset of eligible voters anyway). In some states the right to vote can be restored. The restriction is based on criminal behavior not class, race, sex, age, or other factors. I doubt that many felons were going to vote for Franken's opponent - a former chief prosecutor. There may have also been some indication of the felon's leanings for voting based on the voter registration - Democrat or Republican.
Hmmm, might you already be a victim of that?
The law is the law when it comes to voting. You can lose the right to vote by committing a felony just like you can lose your freedom. It may not sit well with you, but there it is. Do you want a society that respects the rule of law or not?
It is illegal for felons to vote in many states, including Minnesota at the time. (Really? You couldn't figure that out?)
you piece of NSA excusing shit?
Pardon me, were you speaking about Al Franken?
Franken defends NSA surveillance
It appears to be the case that intelligent commentary is as rare as fair moderation on this topic.
That's not all he did. He is also a big defender of the NSA. Still a fan of Franken?
...is the only person in the Senate who seems to have not been bought and sold by lobbyists.
But he is a strong defender of the NSA. Are we still here to praise him? Or can we criticize him without being mod bombed?
The number of felons that voted in the election were larger than Franken's vote margin of "victory." I seem to recall there were other problems as well.
Felons for Franken
Franken won the election due to vote fraud and lawyers.
It looks like our moderation tonight is "progressive," just not fair or honest.
If all our senators at least gave as much thought to issues as he does, we'd be in a much, much better place.
Al Franken thinks that the "place" for America is under NSA surveillance. Is that the place you were thinking of?
Franken defends NSA surveillance
Al Franken is often wrong and not especially thoughtful or informed on the issues. He is a pretty reliable "progressive" vote and hence the confusion.
Al Franken is one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate.
Really? Then you'll be interested in the items below. I assume you'll agree with him since you describe him as " one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate."
The NSA Has at Least 1 Liberal Friend Left: Sen. Al Franken
It's pretty lonely to be the National Security Agency right now. The revelation of a massive data-collection program has left many progressive senators criticizing the agency, from Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M., to Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn. But one of the other most liberal senators in Congress is so far speaking out in NSA's support: Al Franken.
Franken, the Minnesota Democrat who is on the Senate Judiciary Committee, knew about the data-mining. Or at least that's what he told Minnesota's WCCO on Tuesday. "I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people," Franken said. The senator also believes the data collection has saved American lives:
I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us, and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism. There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know.
Franken defends NSA surveillance
The Minnesota lawmaker told the St. Paul CBS affiliate that he "was very well aware of" the classified government programs that gathered personal data on telephone and Internet users.
“I have a high level of confidence that this is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism,” Franken said, adding that "this is not about spying on the American people." Franken also defended the program as striking the right balance between national security and the right to privacy, echoing recent assurances from the White House.
“There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know that is not appropriate for the bad guys to know,” Franken said.
The senator also said it was appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old defense contractor who has claimed responsibility for the leak.
Well, who can argue with Al Franken since he is "...one of the most intelligent, ethical, fair, and progressive-minded people in the Senate"?
Unfortunately Al Franken owes his election to vote fraud.
Felons for Franken - Illegal felon voters may have handed Democrats 60-vote majority.
Did illegal felon voters determine the outcome of the critical 2008 Minnesota Senate election? The day after the election, GOP Senator Norm Coleman had a 725 vote lead, but a series of recounts over the next six months reversed that result and gave Democrat Al Franken a 312 vote victory.
The outcome wound up having a significant impact, giving Democrats the critical 60th Senate vote they needed to block GOP filibusters. Mr. Franken's vote proved crucial in the passage of ObamaCare last December in the Senate. The next month Democrats lost their 60-vote Senate majority with the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts.
Ever since Mr. Franken was declared the victor, the conservative watchdog group Minnesota Majority has combed through records comparing lists of those who voted with criminal rap sheets. It found that at least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's
Al Franken would regain what respect I had for him if he went back to doing comedy on TV and in the movies for audiences instead of doing it in the Senate on the American people. "Astute" is not the word that comes to mind when I think of Franken.
From the article: 'Senator Al Franken has a pretty good idea of what the term "net neutrality" means...
If Senator Al Franken has "a pretty good idea" about this it would be among his first. (I wonder if he made a post anywhere about it?)