It's a pain in my rear for one. Breaks compatibility with other Unix/Unix-like operating systems, for one. For two, (not sure if systemd or Fedora related issue) my laptop boots slower since the introduction of systemd, and prints out a crap-ton of extra information on screen and in the system log making it much harder to find the actually useful information that I want to see. Final big complaint - it's far more complex then it needs to be. I want init to be just that - init. I don't need it handling networking, authentication or any number of the other million things that systemd wants to do. You have no idea how much more simple it is to manage a box running Slackware, or and old UNIX like IRIX then it is to fight with modern Linux. Linux has lost the concept of KISS.
Do we really care one way or another? I mean, honestly. Attitudes like that won't encourage them to open up more code in the future - they need to see some level of success in the small set of stuff they put out to be convinced to do more (how success is measured is a different question...).
I've only had one issue with multiple screens and nvidia - it doesn't always save the order of the screens. Otherwise, the driver works flawless for me. KMS has been nothing but a pain in my rear (its introduction, along with the dropping of DRI1, forced me to stop using Linux on quite a few laptops that I had/was supporting at the time) and the fact that 'nomodeset' is required for nvidia is a plus in my book. I really can't speak about proper XrandR support as I have never dealt with it directly.
Different archs? Yes, support for Linux on some platforms is lacking (no nvidia on PPC, I've not seen an nvidia card in a MIPS, POWER, or IA-64 system so not surprised there is no driver support there), but nvidia supports more then fgrlrx does (nvidia works on Linux on ARM, plus FreeBSD AND Solaris on Intel).
"Nouveau" isn't the "nvidia" driver. As someone who's been using nvidia cards, nvidia drivers, and Fedora Linux for years (going back to Red Hat 9 on my Pentium IV with a Geforce 3), very rarely does an update break nvidia drivers.
Nvidia's drivers seem to work just fine to me under Linux. The Quadro FX in my laptop probably runs better in Linux then Windows, and at home my GTX 580 and 770 work fantastic. Oh, you meant the Open Source drivers? That are really only needed because the GPL-tards insist that anything that you do not have the full source code to is the pure, unadulterated essence of evil? Sorry, some of us don't really care about stupid politics. I care about things that work (I'd run Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana on my laptop if the WiFi drivers worked. Everything else works perfect out of the box.) and let me do what ever it is I'm trying to do. And if it's gaming, well, the Open Source games department is rather lacking, don't you think? So if I'm doing gaming or CAD, I'm most likely using closed source software anyway, thus making the driver argument moot. Like Windows, I just need the default driver to work enough that I can get the proper one in place (Solaris saves me that effort when it comes to Nvidia).
Bulky? No, the last bulky Apple laptop was an iBook G3. Audible fans? I can hear the fans in any plastic MacBook, and many MacBook Pro computers. And you know what? It doesn't bother me one bit. I'd rather be able to upgrade RAM, since Apple sells laptops with ridiculously small RAM amounts in them (I mean, who thinks that selling a laptop with 4GB is enough?). I used to say that Apple was competitive with the Thinkpads and Precisions, but lately they've gone completely to hell in terms of serviceability and reliability. The amount of Retina MacBook Pro's that we saw failure in under 3 years vs previous models in mind boggling, thus presenting evidence contrary to your statement.
Final point - when it comes to the MacBook Pro, users don't care about the weight. They want the performance. Users don't care how light the machine is, they care that it works (and many that it has a good quality keyboard, which is why quite a few of them like myself now use a Dell Precision in place of a MacBook).
Another problem Apple is having is they lost a chunk of the people interested in their laptops with the nonsense they pulled with the Retina line where everything is soldered to the board.
Or we actually like stable products that work as advertised. My love for Solaris and IRIX partly comes from how poorly Linux often runs (and some of the nonsense the GNU people spew).
I'm not looking forward to the compatibility break with other systems. Some of us have to make software work in environments that receive much less love (MIPS, for example).
My benefits were far worse working union jobs then when I branched into non-union (systems administration). I won't name the union I worked in before I entered IT, but they were far worse then dealing with management directly. And to pick on your statement - the union bosses are just as elite as the people they're supposed to be against.
Which is a win for me - Verizon has lowered my bill by a fair amount per month for as long as I keep my old phones. Plus they recently doubled my data amount per month at no additional cost.
Industry standard File Systems? You mean like XFS, UFS, and ZFS? Oh, wait, they're not supported either. Call me when Microsoft is ready to play in the big kids playground.
In some states you can be ticketed for going too slow in the left lane (this started being enforced due to issues with emergency workers and roadside assitance workers not being able to respond in a timely fashion)
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It's a pain in my rear for one. Breaks compatibility with other Unix/Unix-like operating systems, for one. For two, (not sure if systemd or Fedora related issue) my laptop boots slower since the introduction of systemd, and prints out a crap-ton of extra information on screen and in the system log making it much harder to find the actually useful information that I want to see. Final big complaint - it's far more complex then it needs to be. I want init to be just that - init. I don't need it handling networking, authentication or any number of the other million things that systemd wants to do. You have no idea how much more simple it is to manage a box running Slackware, or and old UNIX like IRIX then it is to fight with modern Linux. Linux has lost the concept of KISS.
Do we really care one way or another? I mean, honestly. Attitudes like that won't encourage them to open up more code in the future - they need to see some level of success in the small set of stuff they put out to be convinced to do more (how success is measured is a different question...).
I've only had one issue with multiple screens and nvidia - it doesn't always save the order of the screens. Otherwise, the driver works flawless for me. KMS has been nothing but a pain in my rear (its introduction, along with the dropping of DRI1, forced me to stop using Linux on quite a few laptops that I had/was supporting at the time) and the fact that 'nomodeset' is required for nvidia is a plus in my book. I really can't speak about proper XrandR support as I have never dealt with it directly.
Different archs? Yes, support for Linux on some platforms is lacking (no nvidia on PPC, I've not seen an nvidia card in a MIPS, POWER, or IA-64 system so not surprised there is no driver support there), but nvidia supports more then fgrlrx does (nvidia works on Linux on ARM, plus FreeBSD AND Solaris on Intel).
"Nouveau" isn't the "nvidia" driver. As someone who's been using nvidia cards, nvidia drivers, and Fedora Linux for years (going back to Red Hat 9 on my Pentium IV with a Geforce 3), very rarely does an update break nvidia drivers.
That's what DKMS is for.
Nvidia's drivers seem to work just fine to me under Linux. The Quadro FX in my laptop probably runs better in Linux then Windows, and at home my GTX 580 and 770 work fantastic. Oh, you meant the Open Source drivers? That are really only needed because the GPL-tards insist that anything that you do not have the full source code to is the pure, unadulterated essence of evil? Sorry, some of us don't really care about stupid politics. I care about things that work (I'd run Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana on my laptop if the WiFi drivers worked. Everything else works perfect out of the box.) and let me do what ever it is I'm trying to do. And if it's gaming, well, the Open Source games department is rather lacking, don't you think? So if I'm doing gaming or CAD, I'm most likely using closed source software anyway, thus making the driver argument moot. Like Windows, I just need the default driver to work enough that I can get the proper one in place (Solaris saves me that effort when it comes to Nvidia).
You mean you're not using Photoshop for UNIX?
Bulky? No, the last bulky Apple laptop was an iBook G3. Audible fans? I can hear the fans in any plastic MacBook, and many MacBook Pro computers. And you know what? It doesn't bother me one bit. I'd rather be able to upgrade RAM, since Apple sells laptops with ridiculously small RAM amounts in them (I mean, who thinks that selling a laptop with 4GB is enough?). I used to say that Apple was competitive with the Thinkpads and Precisions, but lately they've gone completely to hell in terms of serviceability and reliability. The amount of Retina MacBook Pro's that we saw failure in under 3 years vs previous models in mind boggling, thus presenting evidence contrary to your statement.
Final point - when it comes to the MacBook Pro, users don't care about the weight. They want the performance. Users don't care how light the machine is, they care that it works (and many that it has a good quality keyboard, which is why quite a few of them like myself now use a Dell Precision in place of a MacBook).
The Chips are out there - SPARC and POWER are perfectly viable for high end usage.
Another problem Apple is having is they lost a chunk of the people interested in their laptops with the nonsense they pulled with the Retina line where everything is soldered to the board.
Or we actually like stable products that work as advertised. My love for Solaris and IRIX partly comes from how poorly Linux often runs (and some of the nonsense the GNU people spew).
I'm not looking forward to the compatibility break with other systems. Some of us have to make software work in environments that receive much less love (MIPS, for example).
I think the advantage for most of us will be the drop in price that will occur with the 4K displays.
Yup, but ex post facto applies to this one, so they are tried by the laws that were in effect at at the time of the offence.
My benefits were far worse working union jobs then when I branched into non-union (systems administration). I won't name the union I worked in before I entered IT, but they were far worse then dealing with management directly. And to pick on your statement - the union bosses are just as elite as the people they're supposed to be against.
Which is a win for me - Verizon has lowered my bill by a fair amount per month for as long as I keep my old phones. Plus they recently doubled my data amount per month at no additional cost.
UFS, not UDF.
Word 2007 supports ODF my anonymous friend.
Industry standard File Systems? You mean like XFS, UFS, and ZFS? Oh, wait, they're not supported either. Call me when Microsoft is ready to play in the big kids playground.
Maybe you should give WordPerfect another try then. It is still around you know.
Since the party poopers are so loud today, I for one am enjoying the break from the norm.
Well, Colorado at least is heading that direction....
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In some states you can be ticketed for going too slow in the left lane (this started being enforced due to issues with emergency workers and roadside assitance workers not being able to respond in a timely fashion)
Yes, we know what a limit it. Most of us studied Calculus.
lim f($speedOfCar).
x-> $speedLimit
is just a point on the graph