I posted the original complaint, and I am not a native speaker. I forgive simplistic language and occassional grammatical mistakes easily, but using idioms you don't understand is nothing but stupidity on the part of the writer.
Besides the awkward and nearly unreadable sentence structures in the article, 'dodged the bullet', 'doctored' and 'inevitable conclusion' do not mean what the submitter seems to think they mean.
If the editors won't actually edit articles (to keep Slashdot "more real", apparently), how about just not posting articles that are incomprehensible gibberish?
Professional demolishers are the ones most loudly being heard about the entire thing.
Cites, please.
Thermate is closely related to thermite
Ok, thermate is thermite with added barium nitrate and small amounts of sulphur. All the references I see say sulphur was found. Sulphur is in everything too, so that's nothing surprising. Barium, however, is much more rare, and there's LOTS of it in thermate.
Funnily, no reports of barium being found. How about that.
Yes, but how did the top start exploding and free falling FIRST? There's no way a building collapses top down in any scenario that doesn't involve incendiaries and/or explosives.
Neither you nor I know enough to say that there is "no way a building commapses top down". Professional demolishers have no problem accepting the sequence of events that happened, and they're the only people with any kind of experience in this. If you can find a couple of them saying this, I'll pay attention. If it's just conspiracy theorist handwaving, I won't.
And they found significant quantities of the by-products of thermate reactions all over the place.
Thermite is aluminium and iron oxide. I'd have been very surprised if they did NOT find that all over the place. They found heightened levels of tritium too (from tritium glow-in-the-dark markers in the building and on the planes). That doesn't mean anyone set off a NUCLEAR BOMB (and there are really people claiming this).
and the government that has been running the show since
I hate to break this to you, but that's what the government DOES.
Yes, you've seen the videos, and blindly believed the strawman argument they spoon-fed you. Congratulations. Having a skeptical mind means being skeptical of EVERYONE, not just the government.
If you had taken any basic physics, maybe you would realize the immense potential energy of half a skyscraper. There's much, much more energy in that than in any explosives you could realistically pack into the building. The falling upper half of the tower could easily pulverize the lower half, and could do it just as well at nearly free-fall speed, because the shocks of the impact would cause the whole structure to crumble.
If you truly want to know the truth, you need to do more than watch a propaganda video.
None of the "natural" plants you eat are pure result of natural selection. They've all been specially bred for centuries and millennia to reach the state they are in now, which has very little to do with nature. Their genes have been thoroughly messed with already, albeit with less sophisticated methods.
And can you explain why "genetical messing with the plants" does not fall under "adaptation", while apparently most of the rest of modern life does?
Well, obviously it should be labelled. It's not like the companies selling the stuff can just ignore that their product kills people. As it is, companies have to cover their asses by including warnings if there's even a chance that there's the smallest trace of peanuts in their food, and this is no different. It's not like the fact that it's a GM food gives them some special get-out-of-jail-free card.
I'm not saying it won't have an effect. I'm saying it won't have some super scary heretofore unknown mutagenic effect turning people into zombies, as some people seem to think, like our ancestor way up the thread when he said:
would be potentially devistating, we are messing with DNA strands which might alter our genetic makeup and cause a global birth defect problem.
In your example, these people can already die from eating peanuts. This is not stopping anyone from putting peanuts in food - I have a friend who has a deadly peanut allergy, and I know how careful he has to be with all food he eats already.
Just because someone tells you that the towers fell at "free fall speed" which is "impossible without explosives" does not mean it is actually true that it happened. This silly claim has been repeatedly debunked, but conspiracy theorists are not interested in hearing it.
I'm pretty sure they are not allergic to the actual GENES, no matter what the silly article is implying. They are allergic to the proteins and substances produced by those genes. This is obviously a problem, but it's a problem that can be solved. And it's not like it's a NEW problem - these people were already allergic to peanuts.
In case you missed it, I was trying to point out that trying to live a "100% natural life" is completely non-sensical and definitely not something any sane person would want. Hell, pretty much any plant we eat is far, far removed from "natural selection" - they're all engineered by our very own very artificial selection, and are by now quite far removed from the original plants our ancestors picked for farming.
The "open source" comment was such a non-sequitor I just ignored it - what the hell was that even supposed to mean?
I hate to break it to you, but there's GENES in pretty much every single thing you eat. What makes you think that none of those millions or billions of genes is in any way dangerous, but those few that we have made from cut-and-pasting together natural ones suddenly would be?
Thats only one of the possible scenarios, what happens if this crop is worldwide before we realise that DNA strand acted in a strange way on our offspring?
Just to be safe, maybe you should stop eating anything with those scary GENES in them.
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I posted the original complaint, and I am not a native speaker. I forgive simplistic language and occassional grammatical mistakes easily, but using idioms you don't understand is nothing but stupidity on the part of the writer.
Besides the awkward and nearly unreadable sentence structures in the article, 'dodged the bullet', 'doctored' and 'inevitable conclusion' do not mean what the submitter seems to think they mean.
If the editors won't actually edit articles (to keep Slashdot "more real", apparently), how about just not posting articles that are incomprehensible gibberish?
Professional demolishers are the ones most loudly being heard about the entire thing.
Cites, please.
Thermate is closely related to thermite
Ok, thermate is thermite with added barium nitrate and small amounts of sulphur. All the references I see say sulphur was found. Sulphur is in everything too, so that's nothing surprising. Barium, however, is much more rare, and there's LOTS of it in thermate.
Funnily, no reports of barium being found. How about that.
Yes, but how did the top start exploding and free falling FIRST? There's no way a building collapses top down in any scenario that doesn't involve incendiaries and/or explosives.
Neither you nor I know enough to say that there is "no way a building commapses top down". Professional demolishers have no problem accepting the sequence of events that happened, and they're the only people with any kind of experience in this. If you can find a couple of them saying this, I'll pay attention. If it's just conspiracy theorist handwaving, I won't.
And they found significant quantities of the by-products of thermate reactions all over the place.
Thermite is aluminium and iron oxide. I'd have been very surprised if they did NOT find that all over the place. They found heightened levels of tritium too (from tritium glow-in-the-dark markers in the building and on the planes). That doesn't mean anyone set off a NUCLEAR BOMB (and there are really people claiming this).
and the government that has been running the show since
I hate to break this to you, but that's what the government DOES.
You know, telling someone they are wrong is being disparaging by implication. It's kind of hard to avoid, even if you don't use the dreaded sarcasm.
You can never quite figure it out because you are completely clueless about crypto. Hope that helps.
PS: The attacks on both algorithms create files of equal size.
Yes, you've seen the videos, and blindly believed the strawman argument they spoon-fed you. Congratulations. Having a skeptical mind means being skeptical of EVERYONE, not just the government.
If you had taken any basic physics, maybe you would realize the immense potential energy of half a skyscraper. There's much, much more energy in that than in any explosives you could realistically pack into the building. The falling upper half of the tower could easily pulverize the lower half, and could do it just as well at nearly free-fall speed, because the shocks of the impact would cause the whole structure to crumble.
If you truly want to know the truth, you need to do more than watch a propaganda video.
Which part of my remark was disparaging?
None of the "natural" plants you eat are pure result of natural selection. They've all been specially bred for centuries and millennia to reach the state they are in now, which has very little to do with nature. Their genes have been thoroughly messed with already, albeit with less sophisticated methods.
And can you explain why "genetical messing with the plants" does not fall under "adaptation", while apparently most of the rest of modern life does?
And similarly, patents on GM foods is no argument against GM foods.
Well, obviously it should be labelled. It's not like the companies selling the stuff can just ignore that their product kills people. As it is, companies have to cover their asses by including warnings if there's even a chance that there's the smallest trace of peanuts in their food, and this is no different. It's not like the fact that it's a GM food gives them some special get-out-of-jail-free card.
I'm not saying it won't have an effect. I'm saying it won't have some super scary heretofore unknown mutagenic effect turning people into zombies, as some people seem to think, like our ancestor way up the thread when he said:
would be potentially devistating, we are messing with DNA strands which might alter our genetic makeup and cause a global birth defect problem.
In your example, these people can already die from eating peanuts. This is not stopping anyone from putting peanuts in food - I have a friend who has a deadly peanut allergy, and I know how careful he has to be with all food he eats already.
And yet here you are now.
Just because someone tells you that the towers fell at "free fall speed" which is "impossible without explosives" does not mean it is actually true that it happened. This silly claim has been repeatedly debunked, but conspiracy theorists are not interested in hearing it.
I'm pretty sure they are not allergic to the actual GENES, no matter what the silly article is implying. They are allergic to the proteins and substances produced by those genes. This is obviously a problem, but it's a problem that can be solved. And it's not like it's a NEW problem - these people were already allergic to peanuts.
In case you missed it, I was trying to point out that trying to live a "100% natural life" is completely non-sensical and definitely not something any sane person would want. Hell, pretty much any plant we eat is far, far removed from "natural selection" - they're all engineered by our very own very artificial selection, and are by now quite far removed from the original plants our ancestors picked for farming.
The "open source" comment was such a non-sequitor I just ignored it - what the hell was that even supposed to mean?
"Why ban useful GM foods, just ban the useless GM patents."
I hate to break it to you, but there's GENES in pretty much every single thing you eat. What makes you think that none of those millions or billions of genes is in any way dangerous, but those few that we have made from cut-and-pasting together natural ones suddenly would be?
Do you have a better definition of "100% natural" that you would like to share?
Similarly, since software patents can be used by large corporations to sue those less well off, we should ban software.
Waiting until after the defects start coming in with something as dangerous as GM crops would be horrific...
"As dangerous as"? Please cite some examples of GM crops causing disasters horrible enough to deserve being labelled as being so incredibly dangerous.
How about just wanting to lead a healthy 100% natural life
Yes, how about that. Get back to me when you are naked, living in the forest, gathering fruits and berries for food.
Yes, that makes perfect sense, because the ratio of hungry people on the Earth is a natural constant, unchanged for billions of years!
Thats only one of the possible scenarios, what happens if this crop is worldwide before we realise that DNA strand acted in a strange way on our offspring?
Just to be safe, maybe you should stop eating anything with those scary GENES in them.
If you're getting your ethics from Kant of all people, you might as well be a robot.