I don't think it was just because he read the Bible and that is not his claim anyway. He said he had an encounter with Jesus...not just reading the Bible. Shoot just reading the Bible will do nothing for you unless you actually are looking earnestly for God. So many people think that being a Christian is just reading the Bible and doing what it says. That is not a Christian. Yes that is religion and will just make you depressed and not have much life. And being a Christian does not make you perfect, we still are human and make mistakes, but it is a process of perfection that is only finished when we see Christ face to face. So yes Bush is not perfect. Nor am I.
And I will not judge if he actually accepted Christ or not, I can only go with what he professes and see what he lets people see of his personal life. I don't know his heart, only God knows that.
I've known a few drug addicts and people with drinking problems that have been delivered of those issues because of a touch from Jesus. It is not some stupid story or made up thing. I know them personally and have seen their lives and see the change. So yes I can believe that this happened with Bush or anyone else that would share this type of story.
Yes I am a Christian as much as I hate to actually use the term today, since it has been completely muddled with a lot of people that call themselves Christian but seem to definitely not have any understanding of what it means to have a relationship with God. And no Christianity is not a religion as popular belief would think it, nor is it a philosophy or moral code. and unlike what you said above about Christians follow a 2000 year old dead guy, Jesus is not dead...He is in fact quite alive, of course you've heard the account of the cross, but then you'd also have heard the account of Him resurrecting, oh and just so you know resurrection is not some hogwash dim minded senseless hope or make believe thing, there are actual factual real life accounts in the 100s today of people being resurrected by the power of Jesus Christ. I've seen it with my own eyes as a matter of fact.
I have seen God change my life radically as well, but anyway, if you want to hear more of my experience with God and my testimony, read my journal. I'd post it here, but it would be a bit off topic, although it answers your reply nicely.
So, flame me or call me a freak, I really don't care. That doesn't change the fact that I actually care about all you people that are posting on Slashdot regardless of your religion or beliefs.
I'm tired of living with my head in the sand and trying to hide my faith because I might offend someone. You can choose to be offended or not, that is your choice.
I am not shoving something down someone's throat. You can say, Hmmm...there might be something there, or you could say, I don't believe it. It's is your choice. That is one of the nice things about America and true freedom. Not this political correctness crap that is trying to keep people locked into a straight jacket of fear and control. Anyway, end of rant. I'd be lucky if this post actually gets through anyway.
Hmmm...that's funny, Bush supporter? Actually I would like to say I am a Truth supporter more than Bush supporter. Oh and if you really want truth, your not going to find it in the current media especially in the extreme left and right media channels.
I'm not saying I even know what the true story is, and it is probably somewhere in between rabid Bush supporters' views and the extreme liberals' views. I'm not even trying to "support" Bush, shoot he doesn't need someone defending him.
The whole reason I posted was to try to get people to actually think about what they think and how they come to conclusions. All I am hearing from the majority of posts bashing Bush and well anything that would put a word in edgewise pertaining to God, and morals, etc. is a vomit of the same hate, anger, bigotry, and slander that that view (I guess if you'd have to put a label on it is the "extreme left" liberal view) is accusing the "right" view to have. And frankly I can't stand labeling people either. But in order to put some context in what I'm saying I had to.
Shoot, I don't agree with a lot of the "right" view myself. There are two extremes and neither of the extremes are right. As a matter of fact both extremes are coming from the same spirit/mindset--hate, anger, devision, rage, malice, pride, religious pride, etc. Hmmm, now doesn't that paint an interesting picture? Both sides are being manipulated from the same source.
Oh an yes there is more to this life than just what you can see, smell, taste, and touch or measure. Our reality is far more interesting than you can imagine...a spiritual reality is not just old wives tales and fringe thinking, it is real. We are composed of far more than just mind and body, we also have a spirit, but I will not go there, that would be a very long post and very much off even the off topic of pointing out the source of all the bashing.
Well, have fun hating, it definitely won't help your health any...might help to open your mind a bit to a little more information than what is being vomited from certain very biased sources...
What you just stated as established fact is actually just your opinion. Not that I know what the truth is in this situation, but I sure am not going to stake my life on it being either the extreme left view or the extreme right view, it is most likely somewhere in between.
As for your statement of him being stupid...wow, you must be a very insightful person that knows everything about him and his mental make up...You are the most amazing person I have ever met! Your opinion is so full of life and truth and concrete facts that you must be the most brilliant, insightful, educated person on the planet! Sorry I couldn't help but put a bit of sarcasm in there...but really I think you've gone a bit out of your league on that judgment.
Yes truly a great example you are setting...let's see...bigotry, hate, and hmmm...lies...
None of what I am hearing as bashes on Bush actually has any basis on reality, but conjecture and opinion that seems very fueled by hate of someone you don't even know personally.
Let's face it the only reason people bash Bush is because of what he is standing for in the world...Of course Bush is not perfect like any man and no I don't agree with everything he does, but I don't hate him.
You sure seem pretty convinced that you know the truth about Bush and his motives...might want to open your mind a bit and actually look at reality and look at the facts...unless you know every behind the scene story and each person personally and their motivations, you probably are going to have a hard time actually KNOWING the actual truth.
It's easy to jump to conclusions when it is so popular and almost encouraged to do...it takes a bit more grit to not follow the road well traveled.
That's actually pretty funny...you are so sure Bush lied that... Hmmm...since we really don't have the exact complete story and what exactly Bush may have said or intended except for a very biased media's coverage, then I'd step away from the lie button. A lie would mean deliberate attempt to deceive and well, unless you KNOW for sure as in personally knowing the whole story, I'd suggest anyone with the mentality that says Bush lied, might want to really think it through...Were you in every conversation, every meeting and have access to every bit of information the President had? Well, if you didn't then, I'd be hard pressed to even see how you could remotely accuse him of lieing. And I don't think the media has access to all that as well, and even if they did, they have proven in many situations to be very blatantly biased in this arena.
You know, we do have freedom of speech and yes people can rant all they want about anything, so complain to your hearts content...just don't be surprised that when you get what you want you will be ending up living in a world full of chaos, no freedom, and the opposite of what you think you would be getting if God, Righteousness, Justice, and Truth are taken away. Just because the world wants something doesn't mean it's right.
So go ahead, hate me, bash me for being "right" minded, I really don't care actually. Nor would I expect anything else from this world really. It's sad, but true. The only love that is true love comes from God, period. But I didn't intend on a sermon, just wanted to put a little light on the subject and give some ideas for thought.
Oh and to speak to the moral issue with Clinton...I'm sorry but if someone is willing to go against the covenant he made with his wife, why would I trust him to keep any other promise or covenant? If he is willing to throw out his trust with his wife, he shows his character very plainly. It is in the private lives of men that men are made not in the public eye...who you are when no one is looking is who you really are. At the same time there is a need to give grace and forgive...I don't hate Clinton, he just made some poor decisions and hopefully has learned something through it, but trust is not regained so quickly. Oh and by the way, you can love someone without agreeing with them or condoning what they do unlike popular opinion and the "teaching" of "tolerance".
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I don't think it was just because he read the Bible and that is not his claim anyway. He said he had an encounter with Jesus...not just reading the Bible. Shoot just reading the Bible will do nothing for you unless you actually are looking earnestly for God. So many people think that being a Christian is just reading the Bible and doing what it says. That is not a Christian. Yes that is religion and will just make you depressed and not have much life. And being a Christian does not make you perfect, we still are human and make mistakes, but it is a process of perfection that is only finished when we see Christ face to face. So yes Bush is not perfect. Nor am I.
And I will not judge if he actually accepted Christ or not, I can only go with what he professes and see what he lets people see of his personal life. I don't know his heart, only God knows that.
I've known a few drug addicts and people with drinking problems that have been delivered of those issues because of a touch from Jesus. It is not some stupid story or made up thing. I know them personally and have seen their lives and see the change. So yes I can believe that this happened with Bush or anyone else that would share this type of story.
Yes I am a Christian as much as I hate to actually use the term today, since it has been completely muddled with a lot of people that call themselves Christian but seem to definitely not have any understanding of what it means to have a relationship with God. And no Christianity is not a religion as popular belief would think it, nor is it a philosophy or moral code. and unlike what you said above about Christians follow a 2000 year old dead guy, Jesus is not dead...He is in fact quite alive, of course you've heard the account of the cross, but then you'd also have heard the account of Him resurrecting, oh and just so you know resurrection is not some hogwash dim minded senseless hope or make believe thing, there are actual factual real life accounts in the 100s today of people being resurrected by the power of Jesus Christ. I've seen it with my own eyes as a matter of fact.
I have seen God change my life radically as well, but anyway, if you want to hear more of my experience with God and my testimony, read my journal. I'd post it here, but it would be a bit off topic, although it answers your reply nicely.
So, flame me or call me a freak, I really don't care. That doesn't change the fact that I actually care about all you people that are posting on Slashdot regardless of your religion or beliefs.
I'm tired of living with my head in the sand and trying to hide my faith because I might offend someone. You can choose to be offended or not, that is your choice.
I am not shoving something down someone's throat. You can say, Hmmm...there might be something there, or you could say, I don't believe it. It's is your choice. That is one of the nice things about America and true freedom. Not this political correctness crap that is trying to keep people locked into a straight jacket of fear and control. Anyway, end of rant. I'd be lucky if this post actually gets through anyway.
Hmmm...that's funny, Bush supporter? Actually I would like to say I am a Truth supporter more than Bush supporter. Oh and if you really want truth, your not going to find it in the current media especially in the extreme left and right media channels.
I'm not saying I even know what the true story is, and it is probably somewhere in between rabid Bush supporters' views and the extreme liberals' views. I'm not even trying to "support" Bush, shoot he doesn't need someone defending him.
The whole reason I posted was to try to get people to actually think about what they think and how they come to conclusions. All I am hearing from the majority of posts bashing Bush and well anything that would put a word in edgewise pertaining to God, and morals, etc. is a vomit of the same hate, anger, bigotry, and slander that that view (I guess if you'd have to put a label on it is the "extreme left" liberal view) is accusing the "right" view to have. And frankly I can't stand labeling people either. But in order to put some context in what I'm saying I had to.
Shoot, I don't agree with a lot of the "right" view myself. There are two extremes and neither of the extremes are right. As a matter of fact both extremes are coming from the same spirit/mindset--hate, anger, devision, rage, malice, pride, religious pride, etc. Hmmm, now doesn't that paint an interesting picture? Both sides are being manipulated from the same source.
Oh an yes there is more to this life than just what you can see, smell, taste, and touch or measure. Our reality is far more interesting than you can imagine...a spiritual reality is not just old wives tales and fringe thinking, it is real. We are composed of far more than just mind and body, we also have a spirit, but I will not go there, that would be a very long post and very much off even the off topic of pointing out the source of all the bashing.
Well, have fun hating, it definitely won't help your health any...might help to open your mind a bit to a little more information than what is being vomited from certain very biased sources...
What you just stated as established fact is actually just your opinion. Not that I know what the truth is in this situation, but I sure am not going to stake my life on it being either the extreme left view or the extreme right view, it is most likely somewhere in between.
As for your statement of him being stupid...wow, you must be a very insightful person that knows everything about him and his mental make up...You are the most amazing person I have ever met! Your opinion is so full of life and truth and concrete facts that you must be the most brilliant, insightful, educated person on the planet! Sorry I couldn't help but put a bit of sarcasm in there...but really I think you've gone a bit out of your league on that judgment.
Yes truly a great example you are setting...let's see...bigotry, hate, and hmmm...lies...
None of what I am hearing as bashes on Bush actually has any basis on reality, but conjecture and opinion that seems very fueled by hate of someone you don't even know personally.
Let's face it the only reason people bash Bush is because of what he is standing for in the world...Of course Bush is not perfect like any man and no I don't agree with everything he does, but I don't hate him.
You sure seem pretty convinced that you know the truth about Bush and his motives...might want to open your mind a bit and actually look at reality and look at the facts...unless you know every behind the scene story and each person personally and their motivations, you probably are going to have a hard time actually KNOWING the actual truth.
It's easy to jump to conclusions when it is so popular and almost encouraged to do...it takes a bit more grit to not follow the road well traveled.
That's actually pretty funny...you are so sure Bush lied that... Hmmm...since we really don't have the exact complete story and what exactly Bush may have said or intended except for a very biased media's coverage, then I'd step away from the lie button. A lie would mean deliberate attempt to deceive and well, unless you KNOW for sure as in personally knowing the whole story, I'd suggest anyone with the mentality that says Bush lied, might want to really think it through...Were you in every conversation, every meeting and have access to every bit of information the President had? Well, if you didn't then, I'd be hard pressed to even see how you could remotely accuse him of lieing. And I don't think the media has access to all that as well, and even if they did, they have proven in many situations to be very blatantly biased in this arena.
You know, we do have freedom of speech and yes people can rant all they want about anything, so complain to your hearts content...just don't be surprised that when you get what you want you will be ending up living in a world full of chaos, no freedom, and the opposite of what you think you would be getting if God, Righteousness, Justice, and Truth are taken away. Just because the world wants something doesn't mean it's right.
So go ahead, hate me, bash me for being "right" minded, I really don't care actually. Nor would I expect anything else from this world really. It's sad, but true. The only love that is true love comes from God, period. But I didn't intend on a sermon, just wanted to put a little light on the subject and give some ideas for thought.
Oh and to speak to the moral issue with Clinton...I'm sorry but if someone is willing to go against the covenant he made with his wife, why would I trust him to keep any other promise or covenant? If he is willing to throw out his trust with his wife, he shows his character very plainly. It is in the private lives of men that men are made not in the public eye...who you are when no one is looking is who you really are. At the same time there is a need to give grace and forgive...I don't hate Clinton, he just made some poor decisions and hopefully has learned something through it, but trust is not regained so quickly. Oh and by the way, you can love someone without agreeing with them or condoning what they do unlike popular opinion and the "teaching" of "tolerance".