Short version: Private investors who make 20-odd year investments want guaranteed returns of 1000%. This multiplies the cost of the plant by an order of magnitude just to pay back the initial investors.
I'm not limiting the time allowed to learn in any way. You're free to take as many lessons as you need.
What I'm trying to do is keep the stars of youtube's "worst drivers" category off the road.
It's a large heavy machine that kills people. It's time we accepted that some people shouldn't be allowed to do it.
Would you want to fly in a plane where the pilot took 20 attempts to pass the test because he was a "slow learner"?
How about a surgeon who had to re-take the qualifying exam a dozen times? Would you let them operate on you?
Yet... you're happy sharing the road with anybody who takes the driving test enough times to get lucky? (which is basically how you pass if you've already had several failed attempts at it)
Are you telling me you can't think of a way around it?
(And do you think that people who do driving tests all day long can't tell the difference? Try asking one of them, most of them have a pretty good idea if you're going to pass/fail within a few seconds of you starting your test.)
Eventually it will come to the conclusion that all people are unfit to be in control of vehicles, and let the vehicles drive themselves.
I certainly hope so.
I think we're ready to automate highway driving right now. Highway driving is fairly straightforward, but it's where most accidents are fatal. Most accidents are caused by the sheer boredom of it - people falling asleep and drifting across lanes. I'd love to be able to push a button and let the machine take over when I'm on a highway with 100 miles to go.
The time wasted by highway driving is also astonishing. People's time can better spent doing other things than mindlessly concentrating on staying between the lines while numbing their kids into silence with video screens.
is that a comment on driving skills or prejudice of testers?
I don't know. It still seems to hold in cities which are predominantly black/Asian, eg. "Birmingham (Garretts Green)" where only 10% of candidates are labelled "White".
I think it's amusing that a government would even publish something like that.
For a laugh I just googled the average number off attempts needed to pass the driving test.
The UK government actually publishes statistics of "pass rate by ethnicity of candidate", and.... Asians and blacks are more likely to fail the test than whites.
Slashdot Mirror
Fail.
The real reason the economics don't work for private companies is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Short version: Private investors who make 20-odd year investments want guaranteed returns of 1000%. This multiplies the cost of the plant by an order of magnitude just to pay back the initial investors.
Solution: Let governments build them.
You need to go on youtube for 20 minutes and search for "worst driver" (or something like that).
Come back if you're still convinced they should have a license.
Yeah, I used to have a piece of crap car like that...
Because the oil barons are in charge of the country, that's why.
They've finally caught up to the rest of the world?
Yep. The real head of the cartels is this person:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/a...
That's exactly what society does do, when it suspends or removes licenses from people who have proven themselves unfit to be in control of a vehicle.
Is that *after* they've caused an accident/killed somebody? Yeah, that makes perfect sense...
I'm not limiting the time allowed to learn in any way. You're free to take as many lessons as you need.
What I'm trying to do is keep the stars of youtube's "worst drivers" category off the road.
It's a large heavy machine that kills people. It's time we accepted that some people shouldn't be allowed to do it.
Would you want to fly in a plane where the pilot took 20 attempts to pass the test because he was a "slow learner"?
How about a surgeon who had to re-take the qualifying exam a dozen times? Would you let them operate on you?
Yet... you're happy sharing the road with anybody who takes the driving test enough times to get lucky? (which is basically how you pass if you've already had several failed attempts at it)
Like numbing themselves with video screens?
Sorry, I forgot this was slashdot. I should have said ">=" instead of ">".
Yes, I thought of that.
Are you telling me you can't think of a way around it?
(And do you think that people who do driving tests all day long can't tell the difference? Try asking one of them, most of them have a pretty good idea if you're going to pass/fail within a few seconds of you starting your test.)
You haven't been to Birmingham, have you?
PS: Thinking that all whites are wealthier, have more opportunity to learn and live in rural/suburbs is plenty racist...
(unless you count trailer parks as "rural")
Nope.
There's people out there who can tell "slow learners" whether or not they're ready for the test.
I can't think of a single reason why anybody should be taking the test without being prepared.
People change. There are people who are to immature to drive a car when they are 20.
Surely their driving instructor can tell them they're "not ready for the test yet".
Or you can have pre-test centers where you can figure out whether or not you're likely to pass (on a closed driving circuit).
that's based on some ridiculous bias against people who take a while to learn to drive,
If you "take a while" then you should take more lessons before the test.
the car had a much tighter turning radius when you started the turn in reverse instead of drive
The car doesn't obey the laws of physics?
I passed the 3rd time, same car.
So...you'd have been fine under my rules? Two tests was enough for you to figure out what you were doing wrong?
Eventually it will come to the conclusion that all people are unfit to be in control of vehicles, and let the vehicles drive themselves.
I certainly hope so.
I think we're ready to automate highway driving right now. Highway driving is fairly straightforward, but it's where most accidents are fatal. Most accidents are caused by the sheer boredom of it - people falling asleep and drifting across lanes. I'd love to be able to push a button and let the machine take over when I'm on a highway with 100 miles to go.
The time wasted by highway driving is also astonishing. People's time can better spent doing other things than mindlessly concentrating on staying between the lines while numbing their kids into silence with video screens.
If you fail your test 10 times it's more than a "bad day", it's because you suck at the sort of skills required for driving.
I think the whites who live in Garretts Green will take their test in the exact same place as the ethnic majority who live there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Not if something is low down behind the car.
- which you'd know is what they're addressing, if you'd glanced at the pdf.
Older car behaviors were fairly obvious
Yep. Driving on ice without traction control was totally intuitive.
Braking without ABS was the same under all conditions and road surfaces, required no driver skill in choosing the correct force to apply to the pedal.
is that a comment on driving skills or prejudice of testers?
I don't know. It still seems to hold in cities which are predominantly black/Asian, eg. "Birmingham (Garretts Green)" where only 10% of candidates are labelled "White".
I think it's amusing that a government would even publish something like that.
Me? I want compulsory auto-brakes fitted for people who use the "I know I'm there when I hit the car behind me" method of parallel parking.
Also: Doors which lock in position before they bang the car next to you in parking lots.
I think it should be: "In Soviet Russia, dash cam films YOU".
(hmmm....still doesn't work, but at least it has the "you" in the right place)
Oh, dear...
For a laugh I just googled the average number off attempts needed to pass the driving test.
The UK government actually publishes statistics of "pass rate by ethnicity of candidate", and.... Asians and blacks are more likely to fail the test than whites.
https://www.gov.uk/government/...
Twice? Seriously? How does it feel to be a drooling idiot?