Over here in the USA we have a heck of a political system going. Corporations are people, and they can pay off elected officials with legal bribes called "campaign contributions" in order to make their desires into laws.
Under that sort of system, is it any wonder that the common serfs get a phone up the ass?
Google has always done a really, really good job at keeping spam out of my actual inbox. I have had a gmail account for an awfully long time, and the amount of spam that has made it into my inbox is miniscule.
Facebook, on the other hand, makes it a point to spam you with as much crap as possible. What use will a facebook.com mail account be when it is just choked with messages about virtual cows, virtual gifts, virtual sit-ins against and / or for just about everything, etc.
Google is a notorious marketer, but I don't fear them in the same way that I fear facebook. Google promises not to use the information they collect to personally identify you. Facebook already has your personal identification. What do you think that little prick Zuckerberg is going to do with it?
Let's ask Zuck himself:
SLASHDOT: so have you decided what you are going to do about the users? ZUCK: yea i'm going to fuck them ZUCK: probably in the ear ZUCK: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at internets ZUCK: just ask ZUCK: i have over 400000000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns FRIEND: what!? how'd you manage that one? ZUCK: people just submitted it ZUCK: i don't know why ZUCK: they "trust me" ZUCK: dumb fucks
Apple simply proved that people other than Alpha-geeks would buy smartphones, if the smartphone was crafted correctly.
Apple is never the very first to market with anything. What they do is take a concept that perhaps was languishing in obscurity and unprofitability and make it into a profitable and cool market.
Apple was not the first to make a portable music player, but they were the first to sell a metric shit ton of them, and spawned endless me-too products. The iPhone was not the first smartphone, but it defined the look, form factor, and interface for the imitators to clone. Apple did not invent all of the UI widgets that are used in OS X, but everybody is scrambling to Apple-ify theirs. When Apple innovates, what they are really doing is evolving the state of the art to a point where it is palatable to consumers.
Mind you, I don't think it's remotely reasonable that Apple will get this kind of power, they have a habit of shaking their iron fists a little too soon. Still, surprises sometimes happen.
Like when? When they shook their iron fist at the music companies regarding DRM? Wen they shook their iron fist at Adobe over a closed vs. Standards based web?
When has Apple ever shook their iron fist at the Internet, let alone done it early and thwarted themselves thereby? You are just trolling here.
Really? Which legislation are they lobbying for that will remove your ability to produce "content?". Seems to me that Apple has always been the platform for artists, musicians, novelists, TV producers, etc and they have been releasing software on the iOS that has no purpose but to enable content creation.
So they don't let you whatever you like on the iOS. This is a bit unfortunate but certainly nothing that other computer manufacturers haven't done in the past. The upside is tha piracy rates are fairly low on the iOS and developers actually get paid for their work (unlike on Android where piracy is just rampant).
It seems that Maemo/Meego is the only way to get a phone that doesn't treat the owner like a convicted criminal with regards to locking down.
See the only problem with your theory is that the phone still comes from some carrier or another. Maemo / Meego (who fucking comes up with these names?) isn't a phone, it's an OS. Whether or not the phone treats you like a criminal will probably depend on the carrier you choose and where you obtain the phone.
OpenMoko was open too, and that shit flopped faster than, oh I dunno, a flaccid male member in a flophouse?
For a mobile OS to be both viable and open requires more than openness. It requires serious work on the part of the manufacturer, real marketing, and incentives for developers to pay attention to the platform. It also requires some consumer mindshare to reach a critical mass where people will actually buy the thing in droves. It must have a cool factor, or at least have features useful to the queen bee of a group of office drones.
IPhone OS is remarkable in that it actually has a catalog of software, and is relatively malware free.
There are scads of phones out there with a few dozen applications, that are malware free. There aren't any other phones with more than a tiny fraction of the software catalog that Apple has.
By the way, you do realize that when you write "fanboy" you come off as either a bitter old loon,or a fanboy of some other competing product? Your propaganda would be both more effective and less obvious if you were to leave the embittered attitude out of your posts. Then pele might take your ranting and raving seriously.
You sit here bitching and moaning that Oracle is giving you software for free, because you are pissed off at them?
Seriously, grow the fuck up. If you don't like their software, don't use it, but come on man, couldn't you at least read the Wikipedia for about 10 seconds and answer this question for yourself?
This whole post and the fact that it made it to the front page are two enormous jokes, and if you were actually serious in your little rant there you are a fucking joke too.
Let me as you, were you raped anally by a team of neo-Nazis wearing spiked condoms while being shown the Oracle logo by a maniacally laughing, disfigured clown? If the answer is no, you're just a drama queen.
No, I don't think Wine should be shut down. Where the fuck did I say that?
The WINE devs have been careful to emphasize that they are performing a CLEAN ROOM implementation of the Windows API, without looking at the Windows source code. They are not simply copying parts of it that they like, or creating middleware that sucks in raw Windows.DLL files.
If you would wake up and pay attention, Google's difficulty started when they produced a mobile phone Java, while trying to both skirt around their licensing fees and also breaking the patent protection guarantee, which specifies that Java should not be fragmented. They decided to be cheap about their choice of a platform, and liked Java, but didn't want to pay up, so they got some lawyers and finagled up a solution that they believed would shield them from consequences.
Fact: Dalvik is just an incompatible Java under a different name, that uses actual Java files but spits out a proprietary format. You know, this is almost exactly the same sort of shit that MS did, and over which they lost in court.
I like open source software, but I don't think Google should be given a free pass to just do whatever the fuck they want because they are friendly to the cause. They fucked up, clearly, and could easily have created a new programming language or taken any number of roads other than cloning Java and deciding to skimp out on paying Sun (or Oracle) for their trouble.
You missed my point here. They gave away 90 thousand Win7 phones, but I am guessing that a bunch of people in Redmond bought them for their kid or wife or whatnot.
I have a good buddy who works at a major phone chain, as a manager, and here in Portland they only sold about a hundred Win7 phones since the launch. He says it's an unmitigated disaster and their chain has more than enough Win7 phones for all of 2011 with their first shipment.
I think the OP meant what he said. I think he was full of it, and called him out, and I am calling you out for defending him.
Even if he meant what you claim he meant, what's it matter? Wikipedia already communicates to all the "parties in the internet" whatever you meant by that. Governments make heavy use of it, as do schoolchildren, political hacks, scientists, you name it.
In conclusion, I think it's actually your comment that isn't useful. In fact, I will leave the "kinda" out of it completely, and say EMPHATICALLY that your comment is in fact counterproductive.
Wikipedia is already one of the most heavily used sites on the internet. Saying they won't get very far is like saying, "Oh, if Facebook doesn't ensure better privacy for its users, I doubt they'll make any money..."
The damn SPLASHSCREEN bothers you? It's still Openoffice.
I can understand if you were raped anally while being shown the Oracle logo by a maniacally laughing, disfigured clown, why you might be upset by seeing that logo.
By the way, when OpenOffice was under Sun patronage, did you chew your nails off worrying? NO?
This whole story is a joke, a propaganda piece against Oracle (and I have no love for Oracle) and just undermines the credibility of Slashdot. Oh, wait, it's a Timothy post? NEVER COULD HAVE FUCKING GUESSED!
I think the point is that Google is deciding arbitrarily what is a high and low priority bug.
What incentive do you have to spend time researching Chrome bugs and sending them your findings, if they will turn around and say "Oh, this bug isn't really that important to us, so we're not going to pay.
Aside from that what were they paying for each bug, something like $200 on up? Not a huge amount of cash for Google to be throwing around there.
Smalltalk is an amazing language, and it is really unlike anything else.
Squeak Smalltalk is Free and available now. Requirements are lean, and it is really nice as a benchmark for what a *REAL* object oriented OS should be.
Slashdot Mirror
Says who?
Over here in the USA we have a heck of a political system going. Corporations are people, and they can pay off elected officials with legal bribes called "campaign contributions" in order to make their desires into laws.
Under that sort of system, is it any wonder that the common serfs get a phone up the ass?
Google has always done a really, really good job at keeping spam out of my actual inbox. I have had a gmail account for an awfully long time, and the amount of spam that has made it into my inbox is miniscule.
Facebook, on the other hand, makes it a point to spam you with as much crap as possible. What use will a facebook.com mail account be when it is just choked with messages about virtual cows, virtual gifts, virtual sit-ins against and / or for just about everything, etc.
Google is a notorious marketer, but I don't fear them in the same way that I fear facebook. Google promises not to use the information they collect to personally identify you. Facebook already has your personal identification. What do you think that little prick Zuckerberg is going to do with it?
Let's ask Zuck himself:
SLASHDOT: so have you decided what you are going to do about the users?
ZUCK: yea i'm going to fuck them
ZUCK: probably in the ear
ZUCK: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at internets
ZUCK: just ask
ZUCK: i have over 400000000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns
FRIEND: what!? how'd you manage that one?
ZUCK: people just submitted it
ZUCK: i don't know why
ZUCK: they "trust me"
ZUCK: dumb fucks
Apple simply proved that people other than Alpha-geeks would buy smartphones, if the smartphone was crafted correctly.
Apple is never the very first to market with anything. What they do is take a concept that perhaps was languishing in obscurity and unprofitability and make it into a profitable and cool market.
Apple was not the first to make a portable music player, but they were the first to sell a metric shit ton of them, and spawned endless me-too products. The iPhone was not the first smartphone, but it defined the look, form factor, and interface for the imitators to clone. Apple did not invent all of the UI widgets that are used in OS X, but everybody is scrambling to Apple-ify theirs. When Apple innovates, what they are really doing is evolving the state of the art to a point where it is palatable to consumers.
Mind you, I don't think it's remotely reasonable that Apple will get this kind of power, they have a habit of shaking their iron fists a little too soon. Still, surprises sometimes happen.
Like when? When they shook their iron fist at the music companies regarding DRM? Wen they shook their iron fist at Adobe over a closed vs. Standards based web?
When has Apple ever shook their iron fist at the Internet, let alone done it early and thwarted themselves thereby? You are just trolling here.
Really? Which legislation are they lobbying for that will remove your ability to produce "content?". Seems to me that Apple has always been the platform for artists, musicians, novelists, TV producers, etc and they have been releasing software on the iOS that has no purpose but to enable content creation.
So they don't let you whatever you like on the iOS. This is a bit unfortunate but certainly nothing that other computer manufacturers haven't done in the past. The upside is tha piracy rates are fairly low on the iOS and developers actually get paid for their work (unlike on Android where piracy is just rampant).
It seems that Maemo/Meego is the only way to get a phone that doesn't treat the owner like a convicted criminal with regards to locking down.
See the only problem with your theory is that the phone still comes from some carrier or another. Maemo / Meego (who fucking comes up with these names?) isn't a phone, it's an OS. Whether or not the phone treats you like a criminal will probably depend on the carrier you choose and where you obtain the phone.
Simply being on does not make a mobile OS viable.
OpenMoko was open too, and that shit flopped faster than, oh I dunno, a flaccid male member in a flophouse?
For a mobile OS to be both viable and open requires more than openness. It requires serious work on the part of the manufacturer, real marketing, and incentives for developers to pay attention to the platform. It also requires some consumer mindshare to reach a critical mass where people will actually buy the thing in droves. It must have a cool factor, or at least have features useful to the queen bee of a group of office drones.
IPhone OS is remarkable in that it actually has a catalog of software, and is relatively malware free.
There are scads of phones out there with a few dozen applications, that are malware free. There aren't any other phones with more than a tiny fraction of the software catalog that Apple has.
By the way, you do realize that when you write "fanboy" you come off as either a bitter old loon,or a fanboy of some other competing product? Your propaganda would be both more effective and less obvious if you were to leave the embittered attitude out of your posts. Then pele might take your ranting and raving seriously.
This is just ridiculous. Would you rather have a web that runs on Silverlight only, or Flash only, or opn HTML5 which no single company controls?
You should be bowing down and kissing Steve Jobs' feet for freeing you from the bug-riddled, CPU wasting clutches of Adobe.
Don't you suppose that they will ask Verizon?
What is Verizon supposed to do, send out 67 million text messages?
OP was just trollin' and PP was trying to excuse it.
Please, go elsewhere.
You sit here bitching and moaning that Oracle is giving you software for free, because you are pissed off at them?
Seriously, grow the fuck up. If you don't like their software, don't use it, but come on man, couldn't you at least read the Wikipedia for about 10 seconds and answer this question for yourself?
This whole post and the fact that it made it to the front page are two enormous jokes, and if you were actually serious in your little rant there you are a fucking joke too.
Let me as you, were you raped anally by a team of neo-Nazis wearing spiked condoms while being shown the Oracle logo by a maniacally laughing, disfigured clown? If the answer is no, you're just a drama queen.
HURRR!
No, I don't think Wine should be shut down. Where the fuck did I say that?
The WINE devs have been careful to emphasize that they are performing a CLEAN ROOM implementation of the Windows API, without looking at the Windows source code. They are not simply copying parts of it that they like, or creating middleware that sucks in raw Windows .DLL files.
If you would wake up and pay attention, Google's difficulty started when they produced a mobile phone Java, while trying to both skirt around their licensing fees and also breaking the patent protection guarantee, which specifies that Java should not be fragmented. They decided to be cheap about their choice of a platform, and liked Java, but didn't want to pay up, so they got some lawyers and finagled up a solution that they believed would shield them from consequences.
Fact: Dalvik is just an incompatible Java under a different name, that uses actual Java files but spits out a proprietary format. You know, this is almost exactly the same sort of shit that MS did, and over which they lost in court.
I like open source software, but I don't think Google should be given a free pass to just do whatever the fuck they want because they are friendly to the cause. They fucked up, clearly, and could easily have created a new programming language or taken any number of roads other than cloning Java and deciding to skimp out on paying Sun (or Oracle) for their trouble.
You missed my point here. They gave away 90 thousand Win7 phones, but I am guessing that a bunch of people in Redmond bought them for their kid or wife or whatnot.
I have a good buddy who works at a major phone chain, as a manager, and here in Portland they only sold about a hundred Win7 phones since the launch. He says it's an unmitigated disaster and their chain has more than enough Win7 phones for all of 2011 with their first shipment.
How do you know what he meant?
I think the OP meant what he said. I think he was full of it, and called him out, and I am calling you out for defending him.
Even if he meant what you claim he meant, what's it matter? Wikipedia already communicates to all the "parties in the internet" whatever you meant by that. Governments make heavy use of it, as do schoolchildren, political hacks, scientists, you name it.
In conclusion, I think it's actually your comment that isn't useful. In fact, I will leave the "kinda" out of it completely, and say EMPHATICALLY that your comment is in fact counterproductive.
"Wikipedia won't get very far"
Oh, ho ho ho. You are really funny buddy.
Wikipedia is already one of the most heavily used sites on the internet. Saying they won't get very far is like saying, "Oh, if Facebook doesn't ensure better privacy for its users, I doubt they'll make any money..."
Typos are accidental, this is just the result of ignorance.
The damn SPLASHSCREEN bothers you? It's still Openoffice.
I can understand if you were raped anally while being shown the Oracle logo by a maniacally laughing, disfigured clown, why you might be upset by seeing that logo.
By the way, when OpenOffice was under Sun patronage, did you chew your nails off worrying? NO?
This whole story is a joke, a propaganda piece against Oracle (and I have no love for Oracle) and just undermines the credibility of Slashdot. Oh, wait, it's a Timothy post? NEVER COULD HAVE FUCKING GUESSED!
You know these days most SD cards (and micro SD and CF etc) can stand a million writes to each location in memory.
I have been using an SD card in my ancient Zaurus 5500 for 5 years now, partly dedicated to a swapfile, and it hasn't ever had a problem.
Your average hard drive would probably have problems (in the specific sector) after a million writes to the same sector.
I think those 40K they sold were in Redmond...
Anonymous Electrical Engineer Faker Guy,
Please read up on the SD spec.
Sincerely, a person who is much more well-informed than you, despite your assurances that you are an "electrical engineer."
I think the point is that Google is deciding arbitrarily what is a high and low priority bug.
What incentive do you have to spend time researching Chrome bugs and sending them your findings, if they will turn around and say "Oh, this bug isn't really that important to us, so we're not going to pay.
Aside from that what were they paying for each bug, something like $200 on up? Not a huge amount of cash for Google to be throwing around there.
There are a lot in banking. A lot of European companies didn't go whole hog on Java for their banking processes.
But maybe the goal here is to expand your mind, not enter a trade nailing Java together.
Smalltalk is an amazing language, and it is really unlike anything else.
Squeak Smalltalk is Free and available now. Requirements are lean, and it is really nice as a benchmark for what a *REAL* object oriented OS should be.
Oh right. Excuse me while I trade in my iPad for one of those fucking $100 disposable kmart Android tablets.
Wait, this seems like bullshit to me.
Because Google doesn't rank the exploit as high priority, it's "poor" all of a sudden?
You drank the fucking Kool-aid buddy.