Indeed, I guess I did misunderstand. It sounded to me like you were mocking Debian's package management system for not being able to handle underscores or dashes in arch names. People tend to hold irrelevant things like that against Debian despite the fact that its by design.
I use Debian all the time too. =)
And for the record, I prefer the name AMD64. Not because I am fanatical about giving AMD credit, just because it sounds better and its easier to say. Go figure.. To me it's just a label. Make it look and sound good.
Your hostility is unfounded. What other distro bothers to deal with so many architectures? Debian is all about consistency -- packages are rewritten as much as is needed to properly fit them into the debian system and have them properly pass the massive debian-policy. The underscore as a field separator in filenames is part of this. Package management software found on any debian machine doesn't depend on any particular file naming scheme at all (though the ftp-masters scripts probably do). This fact alone convinces me that you have never bothed to use or understand Debian. Or is it that you couldn't? However, all of this doesn't mean that Debian will accept a name which undermines decisions that have already been made, like that of using an underscore as the field separator in filenames which actually tell something to users. Why people who don't use Debian often feel hostile to it is beyond me. The project aligns as much with the open source movement's ideals as any other, and more so than most.
Other ISPs getting less? I think not. I get zero. ZERO spam per day. Who could 'like' an ISP which 'accidently' leaks your email and the rest of their customers' to spammers? Besides, not only is AOL hella slow, they also don't feel the need to follow standards. I have _never_ heard a truly positive testimonial about AOL outside their own advertisments. (No, 'we get less spam now' doesn't count) I have never used the service myself. However with two friends getting barely dialup speeds, another having had to reinstall windows to eliminate their crappy browser software (whats with that? it just uses IE to display the page anyway), and another who has AOL broadband but can't use it with Linux because they use some nonstandard PPPoE _crap_, its not one of my priorities. AOL is the Microsoft of of ISPs.
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Indeed, I guess I did misunderstand. It sounded to me like you were mocking Debian's package management system for not being able to handle underscores or dashes in arch names. People tend to hold irrelevant things like that against Debian despite the fact that its by design. I use Debian all the time too. =) And for the record, I prefer the name AMD64. Not because I am fanatical about giving AMD credit, just because it sounds better and its easier to say. Go figure.. To me it's just a label. Make it look and sound good.
Your hostility is unfounded. What other distro bothers to deal with so many architectures? Debian is all about consistency -- packages are rewritten as much as is needed to properly fit them into the debian system and have them properly pass the massive debian-policy. The underscore as a field separator in filenames is part of this. Package management software found on any debian machine doesn't depend on any particular file naming scheme at all (though the ftp-masters scripts probably do). This fact alone convinces me that you have never bothed to use or understand Debian. Or is it that you couldn't? However, all of this doesn't mean that Debian will accept a name which undermines decisions that have already been made, like that of using an underscore as the field separator in filenames which actually tell something to users. Why people who don't use Debian often feel hostile to it is beyond me. The project aligns as much with the open source movement's ideals as any other, and more so than most.
Other ISPs getting less? I think not. I get zero. ZERO spam per day. Who could 'like' an ISP which 'accidently' leaks your email and the rest of their customers' to spammers? Besides, not only is AOL hella slow, they also don't feel the need to follow standards. I have _never_ heard a truly positive testimonial about AOL outside their own advertisments. (No, 'we get less spam now' doesn't count) I have never used the service myself. However with two friends getting barely dialup speeds, another having had to reinstall windows to eliminate their crappy browser software (whats with that? it just uses IE to display the page anyway), and another who has AOL broadband but can't use it with Linux because they use some nonstandard PPPoE _crap_, its not one of my priorities. AOL is the Microsoft of of ISPs.