But to be fair, my Dad managed to sink a new VW Bug in Lake Michigan back in the late sixties. He learned that "It floats!" - right up 'til it sinks. Took a while.
Incidentally, he never thought about sueing Volkswagen - back then, he figured if he was stupid enough to drive an automobile into a lake, he got what he had coming. Nowadays, I'm pretty sure the settlement would've been worth millions.
So it's high time we stopped resting on our laurels and stop settling for somebody's idea of "good enough". We're working on hooking optical sensors directly to the optic nerve - how 'bout bypassing the cochlea completely and pumping the signal directly into the cochlear nerve? Anything to get the sound quality up to a more reasonable approximation of hearing.
I'm sure some deaf people are as cynical and mean-spirited as you say. Based on the number of deaf children who have received cochlear implants (and the number I've heard about from time to time that want their children to get them but can't afford it), I'm going to say you need to use a somewhat narrower scope there.
(NOTE: I hope I wasn't out of line with those cracks about black, Polish and Mexican people)
Yeah, but how does one individual's choice regarding a completely different situation apply here?
I'm just curious. No, on second thought, I'm confused. Steve Jobs made a personal decision which he believed was the best, most correct solution to the problem he faced. I'm somewhat saddened that (in retrospect) he made a very bad decision, but it was his decision to make. It's not like a whole legion of technically-aware pancreatic cancer sufferers have risen up to declare that pancreatic cancer makes them a culture worth preserving.
I've never heard that (pun not intended). Granted, I've only interacted with one deaf person in all of my life, and that for a short period of time; but I'd have thought any mindset as pervasive as you imply would've long ago become a matter of contentious public debate.
Perhaps you can provide a citation? Written testimonial evidence from >50% of all deaf people on Earth should suffice...
I believe it probably does, not that it has or will. Does creation and use of a unique, non-verbal language count? I personally have found it intriguing to watch a person "speak" sign language - there's something akin to dancing in the hand movements (in my personal opinion).
To be sure, deaf "culture" (never heard of it before now, incidentally) probably produces its own inspirations, its own unique achievements, its own . . . culture.
But that loss is tremendously outweighed by the benefits of including the (previously?) deaf in the greater culture which is humanity (where they belonged all along, I think?).
Trying to get a law passed to enforce what a majority of voters deem to be incorrect or inappropriate behavior is precisely why we have a republican form of government here in the US. It's up to a majority of voters to determine whether or not a law is morally/ethically correct and (in our system) up to the courts to determine the constitutionality of such laws.
You want laws by fiat? You need to live somewhere like Iran, or North Korea, or somewhere not in the US. We have a tradition here of encouraging the consideration of ideas - accepting the good and discarding the bad (at least, in theory. I'll admit the average voter in the US is only slightly smarter than a bowl of oatmeal, but it's still our system to allow the expression and exploration of ideas - good and bad).
You're right, but this has nothing to do with free speech. Eich has paid for his indiscretion (daring to fund a ballot proposition he agreed with). Now, let us hold "OK Cupid" to the same standard. Unlike the Mozilla Foundation, "OK Cupid" has publicly declared their views as a business organization.
No, actually, I didn't. I merely refused to dignify it with an answer.
If your local baker were campaigning to repeal the 19th amendment, would you argue that women (or people who like women) who refuse to buy his products are infringing his rights somehow?
Nice metaphor. Let's try again . . .
If my local banker were campaigning to repeal the 19th amendment, I certainly would expect women to find another bank. I wouldn't expect them to petition the US Government to pull that bank's charter - and if they did, I would hope the US Government would quite correctly refuse to do so based on the political views of one of the bank's employees. Now, had the bank refused to accept deposits from women based on that political view, that would be different
Like all metaphors, yours has a point where it ceases to be relevant. Try sticking to facts - leave metaphors to those who cannot grasp reality, please.
Don't forget the part where they encrypted their cable offerings to force use of their (modestly priced) rental equipment. In one stroke, they rendered every digital tuner device in my possession worthless.
Until I bought an antenna. Boy, they must hate that, eh?
I fall into that category. In fact, I'm quite proud to be part of the white noise NSA has to filter out to get at the good stuff - as long as my only foibles are those which NSA doesn't really care about, that is...
It's like making hashish - start with a coarse filter, run it through a medium-mesh filter, then finally through a fine filter. The stuff caught in the fine filter is what you're after.
A friend of mine in the Army once told me that we shared a capacity for emitting voluminous streams of fine-filtered bullshit, and that he felt sorry for the bulk of humanity who did not have fine filters like ours. NSA certainly has fine filters, which they use to watch guys like me.:)
But the whole point of laws is to spell out what behaviors we as a society find unacceptable. While I believe Mr. Eich was wrong-minded in supporting this bill, I would never do anything to impinge on his right to do so. I may choose to act as aggressively as he in support of my contradictory viewpoint, but at no time will I be justified in attempting to punish him for his perfectly legal, perfectly moral and ethical acts in supporting his viewpoint.
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Incidentally, he never thought about sueing Volkswagen - back then, he figured if he was stupid enough to drive an automobile into a lake, he got what he had coming. Nowadays, I'm pretty sure the settlement would've been worth millions.
The part where Tesla is daring to intrude on a market which is quite properly owned by a triopoly and funded with dinosaur corpses.
I'll bet you want a brain, too. Sorry, can't get you one of those either.
My boss.
My co-worker Bill.
My co-worker Tim.
My friend Joe.
.
That's bigotry, not culture.
So it's high time we stopped resting on our laurels and stop settling for somebody's idea of "good enough". We're working on hooking optical sensors directly to the optic nerve - how 'bout bypassing the cochlea completely and pumping the signal directly into the cochlear nerve? Anything to get the sound quality up to a more reasonable approximation of hearing.
"All Polish people are stupid"
"All Mexicans are lazy"
I'm sure some deaf people are as cynical and mean-spirited as you say. Based on the number of deaf children who have received cochlear implants (and the number I've heard about from time to time that want their children to get them but can't afford it), I'm going to say you need to use a somewhat narrower scope there.
(NOTE: I hope I wasn't out of line with those cracks about black, Polish and Mexican people)
I'm just curious. No, on second thought, I'm confused. Steve Jobs made a personal decision which he believed was the best, most correct solution to the problem he faced. I'm somewhat saddened that (in retrospect) he made a very bad decision, but it was his decision to make. It's not like a whole legion of technically-aware pancreatic cancer sufferers have risen up to declare that pancreatic cancer makes them a culture worth preserving.
You should reach for an antiseptic - or crackers (mmm, cheese and crackers - Wisconsin culture at it's finest!).
How you're going to get everyone to join Starfleet is beyond me...
(Willing to take the massive downmods I deserve to answer the A/C troll - downmod away, folks. I suppose I'm bringing it on myself).
I've never heard that (pun not intended). Granted, I've only interacted with one deaf person in all of my life, and that for a short period of time; but I'd have thought any mindset as pervasive as you imply would've long ago become a matter of contentious public debate.
Perhaps you can provide a citation? Written testimonial evidence from >50% of all deaf people on Earth should suffice...
Huh? I'm not sure what you read into my post, or what it is you're asking. Could you please restate the question in the form of an answer?
I believe it probably does, not that it has or will. Does creation and use of a unique, non-verbal language count? I personally have found it intriguing to watch a person "speak" sign language - there's something akin to dancing in the hand movements (in my personal opinion).
After all, it wouldn't do to bring the innocent to trial.
But that loss is tremendously outweighed by the benefits of including the (previously?) deaf in the greater culture which is humanity (where they belonged all along, I think?).
You want laws by fiat? You need to live somewhere like Iran, or North Korea, or somewhere not in the US. We have a tradition here of encouraging the consideration of ideas - accepting the good and discarding the bad (at least, in theory. I'll admit the average voter in the US is only slightly smarter than a bowl of oatmeal, but it's still our system to allow the expression and exploration of ideas - good and bad).
You're right, but this has nothing to do with free speech. Eich has paid for his indiscretion (daring to fund a ballot proposition he agreed with). Now, let us hold "OK Cupid" to the same standard. Unlike the Mozilla Foundation, "OK Cupid" has publicly declared their views as a business organization.
Let me guess - when they come for you, you won't say anything because there'll be nobody to hear.
Nice metaphor. Let's try again . . .
If my local banker were campaigning to repeal the 19th amendment, I certainly would expect women to find another bank. I wouldn't expect them to petition the US Government to pull that bank's charter - and if they did, I would hope the US Government would quite correctly refuse to do so based on the political views of one of the bank's employees. Now, had the bank refused to accept deposits from women based on that political view, that would be different
Like all metaphors, yours has a point where it ceases to be relevant. Try sticking to facts - leave metaphors to those who cannot grasp reality, please.
Until I bought an antenna. Boy, they must hate that, eh?
I fall into that category. In fact, I'm quite proud to be part of the white noise NSA has to filter out to get at the good stuff - as long as my only foibles are those which NSA doesn't really care about, that is...
A friend of mine in the Army once told me that we shared a capacity for emitting voluminous streams of fine-filtered bullshit, and that he felt sorry for the bulk of humanity who did not have fine filters like ours. NSA certainly has fine filters, which they use to watch guys like me. :)
But the whole point of laws is to spell out what behaviors we as a society find unacceptable. While I believe Mr. Eich was wrong-minded in supporting this bill, I would never do anything to impinge on his right to do so. I may choose to act as aggressively as he in support of my contradictory viewpoint, but at no time will I be justified in attempting to punish him for his perfectly legal, perfectly moral and ethical acts in supporting his viewpoint.
So how long have you worked there? 8^)