Although web browsing may be considered a trivial affair nowadays, a web browser is a complex application (go ahead and read the source code for Firefox). Analizing problems with software takes a scientific approach. If you want to analize the sociological implications of an idiotic posting of an alleged and unspecified
software bug then./ is an ideal place to post it.
As far as the apparantly large memory footprint that the rendering application (ff) seems to display, I presume it is part of the caching/prefetching capabilities which makes loading pages instantanious. Ever hit the back-button and see how fast a page "re"loads in Firefox? Well if that page was not stored in memory, how fast do you think it would load?
Modern computers in the developed world ship with 1GB of ram or more,
and the reason for this is so that modern applications can *use* this
memory to increase performance. If you don't like this behavior,
you may feel free to use your old 486 with, say, windows for workgroups
on it, and dig up a copy of netscape 2.x and install it. Then again
you can run Linux from the BIOS chip on your mainboard with a copy
lynx web browser, or even CuRL or wget. Then you don't even need to
worry about buying memory or a hard drive for your PC! Isn't that nice?
AFAS conspiracy by Micro$oft to build their operating system to break or disable software from other providers, it is a court-proven fact. Anybody ever tried to get netscape from the official nscp FTP site using IE in 1997? that URL was actually blocked in the IE code of the day. If you've heard the expression "embrace and extend", that means, "overtake and break".
I mean, damn, they give you open office, Java and now they are open sourcing the best Unix environment out there - what more do you need ?
and NFS was a sun contribution too...
On the other side of the coin, Sol9 (or was it 8?) premiered with GNOME as the default desktop, IMHO, Apache running on sun in the 1990's was the defacto web server contributing heavily to it's ubiquity today, sol-10 as I understand will be distributed with gcc as part of the gnu stack. There's plenty of other examples of sun's clear track record on OSS.
Regarding a Linux OS and Sun, anybody remember SunLinux that was around for a couple of years?
And now JavaDesktop (which is probably built on the same code-base?). Looks pretty obvious that Sun has been drilling steely-eye forward on the OSS road.
It's obvious that myself amoung many other
'die-hard' Linux users over the last 20 years would have no idea what it's like to run a $20 billion corporation over the same time period - and still manage to contribute many millions of lines of code to OSS, and integrate so much of it into their own products.
There are complex business descisions made regarding things that the wee-little end user with the 'my-distro-rules' attitude could never understand - being we are not privy to the details of the boardroom discussions. (Sun was at one point looking to partner with RedHat for distribution too - right? I don't remember all the details...)
Lastly, if there's a non-kernel related FOSS package that you haven't been able to run on Solaris, i'd be pretty suprised by now if you couldn't find all the 'hard work' done for you by Sunfreeware.com (sponsored by - guess who?)
They have GNU-for-solaris stuff going back 10 years.
(and no, I don't work for sun, have been using their stuff for years though - along with linux....)
Slashdot Mirror
Although web browsing may be considered a trivial affair nowadays, a web browser is a complex application (go ahead and read the source code for Firefox). Analizing problems with software takes a scientific approach. If you want to analize the sociological implications of an idiotic posting of an alleged and unspecified software bug then ./ is an ideal place to post it.
As far as the apparantly large memory footprint that the rendering application (ff) seems to display, I presume it is part of the caching/prefetching capabilities which makes loading pages instantanious. Ever hit the back-button and see how fast a page "re"loads in Firefox? Well if that page was not stored in memory, how fast do you think it would load?
Modern computers in the developed world ship with 1GB of ram or more, and the reason for this is so that modern applications can *use* this memory to increase performance. If you don't like this behavior, you may feel free to use your old 486 with, say, windows for workgroups on it, and dig up a copy of netscape 2.x and install it. Then again you can run Linux from the BIOS chip on your mainboard with a copy lynx web browser, or even CuRL or wget. Then you don't even need to worry about buying memory or a hard drive for your PC! Isn't that nice?
AFAS conspiracy by Micro$oft to build their operating system to break or disable software from other providers, it is a court-proven fact. Anybody ever tried to get netscape from the official nscp FTP site using IE in 1997? that URL was actually blocked in the IE code of the day.
If you've heard the expression "embrace and extend", that means, "overtake and break".
I mean, damn, they give you open office, Java and now they are open sourcing the best Unix environment out there - what more do you need ? and NFS was a sun contribution too... On the other side of the coin, Sol9 (or was it 8?) premiered with GNOME as the default desktop, IMHO, Apache running on sun in the 1990's was the defacto web server contributing heavily to it's ubiquity today, sol-10 as I understand will be distributed with gcc as part of the gnu stack. There's plenty of other examples of sun's clear track record on OSS. Regarding a Linux OS and Sun, anybody remember SunLinux that was around for a couple of years? And now JavaDesktop (which is probably built on the same code-base?). Looks pretty obvious that Sun has been drilling steely-eye forward on the OSS road. It's obvious that myself amoung many other 'die-hard' Linux users over the last 20 years would have no idea what it's like to run a $20 billion corporation over the same time period - and still manage to contribute many millions of lines of code to OSS, and integrate so much of it into their own products. There are complex business descisions made regarding things that the wee-little end user with the 'my-distro-rules' attitude could never understand - being we are not privy to the details of the boardroom discussions. (Sun was at one point looking to partner with RedHat for distribution too - right? I don't remember all the details...) Lastly, if there's a non-kernel related FOSS package that you haven't been able to run on Solaris, i'd be pretty suprised by now if you couldn't find all the 'hard work' done for you by Sunfreeware.com (sponsored by - guess who?) They have GNU-for-solaris stuff going back 10 years. (and no, I don't work for sun, have been using their stuff for years though - along with linux....)