Another comment, why would NATO countries be any better? Most of them don't speak English, and in some of the countries the language isn't even remotely similar.
Of course your post wasn't meant to insult Filipinos -- one could hardly demand that an entire population speak a foreign language fluently.
I'm not discussing the companies' practice of making foreigners pretend to be Americans. I think it's stupid and easily seen through, and I don't see why they do it.
In any case, I don't see how a lack of speaking American English and understanding American culture could be detrimental to technical support. What's the last time you needed slang and pop culture references to communicate with a technical support representative? It's not a situation of two buddies chatting over a beer, it's an individual communicating with a paid professional in a somewhat formal setting.
I'm not talking about whether Indian or American technical support is superior. I know American technical support is. I don't see how this applies, as we're talking about the Philippines, not India, so your examples are meaningless.
I hope that someday you meet one or more native Filipinos and speak English with them. I firmly believe that you will be pleasantly surprised.
I've got a suggestion for you: Take the trouble to research a topic before you take someone for a troll. Also, don't assume that even if something sounds totally bizarre to you, it's impossible that it occurs in a foreign school. No two school systems are alike, as my studies in France taught me. I suspect that you've never studied in a foreign country, which explains your narrow-mindedness.
It's 100% true that students in her particular school must pay a small fine if they are caught speaking a language other than English.
Do you know any Filipinos, and more importantly, do you speak English with them on a regular basis?
I know a teenage Filipina girl. Although she does have a noticable accent, her English is impeccable and easily understood. She's not a special case, this is normal for Filipinos. The Phillippines exhibit a situation of diglossia in which English is used for educational and government as well as other formal purposes. What this means is that everything from government proceedings to television reporting is conducted in the English language. In addition, English is the only language spoken in many schools, and textbooks are exclusively written in the language. According to the Filipina I know, any use of her local language in her school incurs a fine.
Thus, Filipinos, especially educated ones, can be expected to have a good command of English. This, coupled with the fact that their accent is quite easily understandable, would make them, on average and from a linguistic point of view, much better technical support representatives than their Indian counterparts.
So, one of the things I glean from this article is that the RIAA pays artists to make mixtapes, encouraging them to violate copyright laws? Nobody else is shocked by this? Especially amazing is the Mafia-like behavior surrounding it, secret agreements, payment under the table, etc. I thought things like that were only done in the movies, and even then not by self-styled "respectable" organizations like the RIAA.
Although generally I don't agree with the RIAA's actions, your response has convinced me that they are in the right. I applaud them for contributing to the downfall of hip-hop "on a national level".
Corporations, may be heartless and evil, but they aren't stupid. Giant companies can pay the smartest MBAs, etc. available, and are generally good at making as much money as possible. Do you really think your reasoning escaped from their horde of Harvard graduates?
Ma yeule? Quoi? Peut-être que le mot "gueule" marcherait mieux dans ce cas?:-)
Super, je peut ajouter un autre Freak à la collection. Bon, je ne suis pas jaloux; je n'ai aucune envie de connaître le latin. Le russe, peut-être, le japonais, l'allemand... cela me parait intéressant. Mais certainement pas une langue morte.
So, what exactly is the point of your argument? You don't actually think we should institute total unrestricted freedom of speech, you just want to clarify a definition?
Thanks for linking the paper. Unfortunately, for the percentage of slashdot readers without a Ph.D in brain science, it's incomprehensible. They are unimportant, so I'm glad you posted it anyway for those of us that do.
On the one hand, we've got the Microsoft apologists claiming that it's an Apple conspiracy, because they want to stem sales of Vista. This would be ridiculous, as although it would hurt Microsoft it would also hurt Apple's image, the use of iTunes, and the sales of iPods. Companies care about their own bottom line, they don't do stupid things to hurt other companies out of spite.
On the other hand, we've got the Microsoft-haters claiming that it's a Microsoft conspiracy because they want to push the Zune. Although this situation is more feasible than the last, it ignores the fact that such an act would also hurt the sales of Vista, not making the infintesimal gain in Zune sales worthwhile.
Why can't we all just agree that neither party has done this intentionally? Clearly the only logical analysis is that it's an accident.
When are you people going to realize that even if you have a well-crafted and pertinent argument, the use of the tired "M$" joke (I use the term liberally) completely ruins it?
I don't know if you had a good argument or not. I was too distracted by the same old cunning jabs against Microsoft's name to evaluate it.
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Maybe you can upgrade from version 2.6.123456 to version 2.6.123457 and expect all your drivers to continue working, Twitter, but I doubt this is the case with major version changes. Correct me if I'm wrong (that is, someone who knows something, not Twitter).
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Although obviously I disagree with you, you do make good points and shouldn't have been modded "flamebait".
But trying to understand Slashdot logic is an exercise in futility, so whatever.
Another comment, why would NATO countries be any better? Most of them don't speak English, and in some of the countries the language isn't even remotely similar.
Yes, that's how an American would hear an Australian (or New Zealish, we can't tell the difference) accent.
Of course your post wasn't meant to insult Filipinos -- one could hardly demand that an entire population speak a foreign language fluently.
I'm not discussing the companies' practice of making foreigners pretend to be Americans. I think it's stupid and easily seen through, and I don't see why they do it.
In any case, I don't see how a lack of speaking American English and understanding American culture could be detrimental to technical support. What's the last time you needed slang and pop culture references to communicate with a technical support representative? It's not a situation of two buddies chatting over a beer, it's an individual communicating with a paid professional in a somewhat formal setting.
I'm not talking about whether Indian or American technical support is superior. I know American technical support is. I don't see how this applies, as we're talking about the Philippines, not India, so your examples are meaningless.
I hope that someday you meet one or more native Filipinos and speak English with them. I firmly believe that you will be pleasantly surprised.
I've got a suggestion for you: Take the trouble to research a topic before you take someone for a troll. Also, don't assume that even if something sounds totally bizarre to you, it's impossible that it occurs in a foreign school. No two school systems are alike, as my studies in France taught me. I suspect that you've never studied in a foreign country, which explains your narrow-mindedness.
It's 100% true that students in her particular school must pay a small fine if they are caught speaking a language other than English.
Do you know any Filipinos, and more importantly, do you speak English with them on a regular basis?
I know a teenage Filipina girl. Although she does have a noticable accent, her English is impeccable and easily understood. She's not a special case, this is normal for Filipinos. The Phillippines exhibit a situation of diglossia in which English is used for educational and government as well as other formal purposes. What this means is that everything from government proceedings to television reporting is conducted in the English language. In addition, English is the only language spoken in many schools, and textbooks are exclusively written in the language. According to the Filipina I know, any use of her local language in her school incurs a fine.
Thus, Filipinos, especially educated ones, can be expected to have a good command of English. This, coupled with the fact that their accent is quite easily understandable, would make them, on average and from a linguistic point of view, much better technical support representatives than their Indian counterparts.
So, one of the things I glean from this article is that the RIAA pays artists to make mixtapes, encouraging them to violate copyright laws? Nobody else is shocked by this? Especially amazing is the Mafia-like behavior surrounding it, secret agreements, payment under the table, etc. I thought things like that were only done in the movies, and even then not by self-styled "respectable" organizations like the RIAA.
Although generally I don't agree with the RIAA's actions, your response has convinced me that they are in the right. I applaud them for contributing to the downfall of hip-hop "on a national level".
Hear, hear. If I had a penny for every Slashdot article heralding this week's cure for cancer...
I lived in a desert for the first seventeen years of my life (Phoenix, Arizona) and last I checked it was capable of supporting life.
I'd just magically make them understand all the secrets of nature, as well as my own existence. Shouldn't be too hard for God.
Is this open to high school students as well?
Corporations, may be heartless and evil, but they aren't stupid. Giant companies can pay the smartest MBAs, etc. available, and are generally good at making as much money as possible. Do you really think your reasoning escaped from their horde of Harvard graduates?
Eh bien, tu as tort. Je n'ai aucun "air de supériorité"... je pense tout simplement que le latin ne sert à rien du tout.
Je ne vois pas trop pourquoi on me détestrait ici. On ne me déteste pas du tout.
Ma yeule? Quoi? Peut-être que le mot "gueule" marcherait mieux dans ce cas? :-)
Super, je peut ajouter un autre Freak à la collection.
Bon, je ne suis pas jaloux; je n'ai aucune envie de connaître le latin. Le russe, peut-être, le japonais, l'allemand... cela me parait intéressant. Mais certainement pas une langue morte.
The quote is in French, a language that's useful to know, unlike Latin.
It's especially useful to me because I live in France. I doubt the GGP lives in ancient Rome.
"Unable to suppress love, the chruch wanted at least to disinfect it, so it invented marriage."
By the way I am an American high school student living in France. I have never been to Korea and have no connection with the country.
So, what exactly is the point of your argument? You don't actually think we should institute total unrestricted freedom of speech, you just want to clarify a definition?
You know Latin and you care about how people capitalize and apostrophize "mp3".
Has it ever occured to you that you just might be a loser?
Most scientists don't even get their Ph.D until they're almost 30. Are you saying that once their education is finished, nobody is effective anymore?
Thanks for linking the paper. Unfortunately, for the percentage of slashdot readers without a Ph.D in brain science, it's incomprehensible. They are unimportant, so I'm glad you posted it anyway for those of us that do.
What porn case??
Explain to me why it's Microsoft's fault that the particular burning software made by Sony didn't let you burn ISOs to disks?
By the way, if you can't find a program that lets you do this in under an hour then you're even more of a failure than I thought.
On the one hand, we've got the Microsoft apologists claiming that it's an Apple conspiracy, because they want to stem sales of Vista. This would be ridiculous, as although it would hurt Microsoft it would also hurt Apple's image, the use of iTunes, and the sales of iPods. Companies care about their own bottom line, they don't do stupid things to hurt other companies out of spite.
On the other hand, we've got the Microsoft-haters claiming that it's a Microsoft conspiracy because they want to push the Zune. Although this situation is more feasible than the last, it ignores the fact that such an act would also hurt the sales of Vista, not making the infintesimal gain in Zune sales worthwhile.
Why can't we all just agree that neither party has done this intentionally? Clearly the only logical analysis is that it's an accident.
When are you people going to realize that even if you have a well-crafted and pertinent argument, the use of the tired "M$" joke (I use the term liberally) completely ruins it?
I don't know if you had a good argument or not. I was too distracted by the same old cunning jabs against Microsoft's name to evaluate it.
Maybe you can upgrade from version 2.6.123456 to version 2.6.123457 and expect all your drivers to continue working, Twitter, but I doubt this is the case with major version changes. Correct me if I'm wrong (that is, someone who knows something, not Twitter).