yet even this vaporware statement sows the seeds of having such a product in the minds of a very large audience.
But, there has not been a place where either Google or Sun state that they will make an online Office suite.
Think about it, it is like the Nintendo revoultion gossip, they said "we will change the way games are played" everyone started to think about the controller and whatever.
Now Sun and Google are just saying "we will change the way applications are delivered", of course everyone is thinking in GOffice and whatever.
The only thing that seems clear for me is that people like ChrisD and other Google & Sun employees are now gathering and annotating all the effects of those simple announcements, and of course Google has an online office suite by now, but as a lot of people has pointed they NEED a good economic model where they can get revenue.
Now, IMHO Google would not make the so called GOffice from OpenOffice, nope, they will use the enterprise and backened version of the Office suite, "StarOffice", because it has some "strength" by itself (not that google doesnt have any strength of course but, the product IS an Office suite).
Try DVD Region+CSS free It is not free as in beer, but for $40.00 you can remove the software+hardware region locks.
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They make what they create freely available and then demand payment without entering into a contract with anyone.
The fact is that, they do not make it freely available. Lets see, how did that Britney Spears album got to Piratebay?, well, somebody surely bought it, so, he entered into a contract with the copyright holders where they allowed him to use the INTELECTUAL PROPERTY (not the "hardware" or plastic) for his own personal use.
Thus, he VIOLATED the contract (infringing the copyright) by uploading and seeding the torrents.
Now, for everyone that downloaded the music, I believe, they were doing anything wrong, BUT if they are uploading at the same time [as in all current p2p sharing protocols] then they are again distributing the Intellectual property.
You should read the small letters on the CD booklet that you bought (if you buy any), they say something like "it is prohibited the partial or total distribution by any means or channels blah blah".
Now, of course according to US laws, it does not matters if the people that downloaded the intelectual property didn't "entered into a contract", they still CAN NOT distribute the Intelectual property, which right to copy [hence it is called copyright] is property of the creator (or the music house).
From the session records: "Plaintiff's [RIAA] motion to Amend Judment [the judment of dismissal of the case to allow RIAA to proceed against Brittany Chan (the daughter)] is hereby DENIED."
So yes it is kind of FUD. They tried to go afater her, but it was denied.
The two sessionrecords are interesting and short (I understood overall and IANAL)
While the RIAA takes your money, gives it to the labels, and screws the artist... AllOfMP3 takes your money, gives it to the Russia mafia, and screws the artist.
IMHO I preffer to give my money to the Russian mafia than giving it to the North American mafia. [but then, I am not from the USA, nor from Russia]
Nah, they only have the most popular [shitty] releases. The not so popular releases that sometimes are listed there usually can not be downloaded (there is an error on something about having no seed ).
I like also the Edonkey service (specially the Emule client) but that service is darn slow...
I know, I did not came up with that information, I quoted it from a RollingStone article, and of course the $1.60 for each CD seems a lot but all the recording expenses must be payed by the artists.
That was my point, when someone buys a CD they are buying a RIAA product (or the music company) not an artist product. If people wanted to support artists they should go to concerts.
Which artists bitch because they see their music having 150 aviability points on Emule? only Metallica and maybe Britney spears because they *may* have better contracts with the disc companies that gives them better royalties for each CD...
For the other bands, it is free publicity. (Or how did you think I started to listent to a group called Kamelot and another group called Axxis, which I really want to see live? [too sad they dont perform in UK])
So, pretty much the artists are not being really paid too much, as anyone can tell you, where artists earn is in live performances. So, my opinion is that each RIAA CD people buy is only giving money to them [the RIAA] and almost nothing to the authors. If people really want to support their artists they should go and watch them LIVE.
Nice comment but, who is making the copy when I am downloading? hence who is "violating" the copyright?, As far as I know, the "loophole" in the law allows them to publish the music on the internet, and as I said in a previous post, it is not illegal to download it, what is illegal is to upload or share it.
So, I know that it may not be legal in my country to "publish or broadcast in any form" the material but then again I am not doing that, I am just getting some "published or broadcasted material" from that country [where it is legal to do so in the internet]
Ifyou're gonna pay all that money to "legally" download/buy your music, you should probably do it with a service that's ACTUALLY LEGAL, which AllOfMP3 is not.
Actually legal?, Where?. IIRC where [I suppose] you live it is legal to DOWNLOAD music, although it is illegal to SHARE [upload] it.
Now, IIRC again, in Russia [where this service is given] it is legal [maybe it is not fair but it is still legal and, you know some laws/practices in the US that are not fair but again, they are LAW].
So, when someone is downloading a bought music file from allofmp3.com they are not doing anything illegal.
So, could you explain me where is the "illegality" of this?
I am waiting for a version of that in the PSP... but anyway, I think THIS [the movie player] is what will make me buy one of those standard ebay GBA... I just saw one going at US$20... and if you can do all that with the movie player, I am in!
*****...Autodesk will open source Linux Maya, which will be merged with Blender and the Open Source community will then have a full kick ass 3D modelling technology =oP...
I agree with you in the "good" potential for this technology, I remember some time ago that Walt Disney was testing this technology I thought it would be quite nice if they made self vending machines (like the Coke or candies machines) with these kind of DVD's.
I am pretty shure only the new releases would be there but it would be useful. That way you only put your coins (5 dlls or whatever) and get your movie.
*But*, I do disagree with the quantity of thrash that this [disposable DVDs] would generate. You have no idea of the quantity of CD's that are disposed in the world. It is my opinion that those same machines MUST have a place to dispose your used DVD's (and why not other CD's that you have) and make the company responsible for recycling the material.
Of course, if you are one of those that think "why would I give THEM back the CD I just bought! I wont make they work" you could always put it in your thrash and continue polluting the environment.
My point was that most users don't really control their boxes already
So what does dont really control their boxes means? they can turn it on , type a letter, a recipe, print, write, check their emails, chat with their friends etc.
You are saying that the autoupdate feature is a bad thing because they (in the case that they didnt asked the user) where modyfing the system. Please stick this into your head, USERS DO NOT CARE.
What does control mean for them? It means being able to press that power button and after a while being able to write their letter, they do not care if the "thing" (aka program) that let them write their letter is around all the internet and everyone can see its inners (aka sourcecode) or that it is from a bad ass company that want to profit (aka Microsoft).
They buy the computer, turn it on and write, chat, check email and some of them type www.google.com
So, your comment was only a troll, and you show it on yor second comment, WTF is the difference for most users if they don't have much knowledge about the operating system- so the default settings, regardless of OS, determine behavior and data control.?
May or may not but you could try changing the Windows Shell to be your browser (like firefox). And if you have a complete office suite online you could use it and save your files locally.
Just wonder, how much space does MS Office (or OpenOffice) takes? I know it is not too much for todays standards but, it would be nice if you could have all that for you or even a computer without a hard disk (imagine the power of a complete Word Processor in a Palm, wirst watch or whatever). And you only need to have your USB drive to save your data.
Also, if you have your firefox "profile" saved in your USB drive it could be loaded each time you entered a new different computer. This is a great way to personlize your desktop no?
I think this AJAX thing would be a great implementation of the Active Desktop thing that microsoft tried (i have not seen any useful example of it), I tried puting netvibes.com as my Active desktop but it did not work and, I have to configure it each time I change a browser (or delete cookies...)).
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yet even this vaporware statement sows the seeds of having such a product in the minds of a very large audience.
But, there has not been a place where either Google or Sun state that they will make an online Office suite.
Think about it, it is like the Nintendo revoultion gossip, they said "we will change the way games are played" everyone started to think about the controller and whatever.
Now Sun and Google are just saying "we will change the way applications are delivered", of course everyone is thinking in GOffice and whatever.
The only thing that seems clear for me is that people like ChrisD and other Google & Sun employees are now gathering and annotating all the effects of those simple announcements, and of course Google has an online office suite by now, but as a lot of people has pointed they NEED a good economic model where they can get revenue.
Now, IMHO Google would not make the so called GOffice from OpenOffice, nope, they will use the enterprise and backened version of the Office suite, "StarOffice", because it has some "strength" by itself (not that google doesnt have any strength of course but, the product IS an Office suite).
Try DVD Region+CSS free It is not free as in beer, but for $40.00 you can remove the software+hardware region locks.
They make what they create freely available and then demand payment without entering into a contract with anyone.
The fact is that, they do not make it freely available. Lets see, how did that Britney Spears album got to Piratebay?, well, somebody surely bought it, so, he entered into a contract with the copyright holders where they allowed him to use the INTELECTUAL PROPERTY (not the "hardware" or plastic) for his own personal use.
Thus, he VIOLATED the contract (infringing the copyright) by uploading and seeding the torrents.
Now, for everyone that downloaded the music, I believe, they were doing anything wrong, BUT if they are uploading at the same time [as in all current p2p sharing protocols] then they are again distributing the Intellectual property.
You should read the small letters on the CD booklet that you bought (if you buy any), they say something like "it is prohibited the partial or total distribution by any means or channels blah blah".
Now, of course according to US laws, it does not matters if the people that downloaded the intelectual property didn't "entered into a contract", they still CAN NOT distribute the Intelectual property, which right to copy [hence it is called copyright] is property of the creator (or the music house).
From the session records:
"Plaintiff's [RIAA] motion to Amend Judment [the judment of dismissal of the case to allow RIAA to proceed against Brittany Chan (the daughter)] is hereby DENIED."
So yes it is kind of FUD. They tried to go afater her, but it was denied.
The two session records are interesting and short (I understood overall and IANAL)
Well, it was just me being pedantic, your Spanish is excellent :).
While the RIAA takes your money, gives it to the labels, and screws the artist...
AllOfMP3 takes your money, gives it to the Russia mafia, and screws the artist.
IMHO I preffer to give my money to the Russian mafia than giving it to the North American mafia. [but then, I am not from the USA, nor from Russia]
They have the biggest selection
Nah, they only have the most popular [shitty] releases. The not so popular releases that sometimes are listed there usually can not be downloaded (there is an error on something about having no seed ).
I like also the Edonkey service (specially the Emule client) but that service is darn slow...
Yep they are, it is called AllOfMp3
It is legal in Russia, it is legal to import it to USA (if you happen to live there) and it is legal to listen.
I know, I did not came up with that information, I quoted it from a RollingStone article, and of course the $1.60 for each CD seems a lot but all the recording expenses must be payed by the artists.
That was my point, when someone buys a CD they are buying a RIAA product (or the music company) not an artist product. If people wanted to support artists they should go to concerts.
Which artists bitch because they see their music having 150 aviability points on Emule? only Metallica and maybe Britney spears because they *may* have better contracts with the disc companies that gives them better royalties for each CD...
For the other bands, it is free publicity.
(Or how did you think I started to listent to a group called Kamelot and another group called Axxis, which I really want to see live? [too sad they dont perform in UK])
US Citizen is violating at least the spirit of the law by using AllOfMP3.com...
Better for me that I am NOT a US Citizen as other 6'180'596,000 persons in this world.
About that, look at this other post where I cite the breakdown of a USD$15.99 CD:
$0.17 Musicians' unions
$0.80 Packaging/manufacturing
$0.82 Publishing royalties
$0.80 Retail profit
$0.90 Distribution
$1.60 Artists' royalties
$1.70 Label profit
$2.40 Marketing/promotion
$2.91 Label overhead
$3.89 Retail overhead
So, pretty much the artists are not being really paid too much, as anyone can tell you, where artists earn is in live performances. So, my opinion is that each RIAA CD people buy is only giving money to them [the RIAA] and almost nothing to the authors.
If people really want to support their artists they should go and watch them LIVE.
Nice comment but, who is making the copy when I am downloading? hence who is "violating" the copyright?, As far as I know, the "loophole" in the law allows them to publish the music on the internet, and as I said in a previous post, it is not illegal to download it, what is illegal is to upload or share it.
So, I know that it may not be legal in my country to "publish or broadcast in any form" the material but then again I am not doing that, I am just getting some "published or broadcasted material" from that country [where it is legal to do so in the internet]
Ifyou're gonna pay all that money to "legally" download/buy your music, you should probably do it with a service that's ACTUALLY LEGAL, which AllOfMP3 is not.
Actually legal?, Where?. IIRC where [I suppose] you live it is legal to DOWNLOAD music, although it is illegal to SHARE [upload] it.
Now, IIRC again, in Russia [where this service is given] it is legal [maybe it is not fair but it is still legal and, you know some laws/practices in the US that are not fair but again, they are LAW].
So, when someone is downloading a bought music file from allofmp3.com they are not doing anything illegal.
So, could you explain me where is the "illegality" of this?
Cheers.
As a Linux only user, I'm contiually frustrated by my lack of music buying options online.
Just see my other post above, a nice option is allofmp3
You are welcome.
P.s. no... I deffinitley do not work there =oP
And BTW:
In Spanish you just say "ganar por negocio" you do not use the preposition "a".
Cheers,
Omar
=o)
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For long, the best music store for me has been AllOfMp3
.WAV music, unencumbered by DRM, quite cheap and easly. (Oh and they have a damn lot of music).
I can buy lossless formated music, ogg or even raw
And also, there are a number of different ways to pay (in case you do not trust Russian stores):
-Credit Card
-Pay Pal
-Xrost
-Bank Transfer
-WebMoney
Cool uh?
But, can you use the Movie Player with it?
I am waiting for a version of that in the PSP... but anyway, I think THIS [the movie player] is what will make me buy one of those standard ebay GBA... I just saw one going at US$20... and if you can do all that with the movie player, I am in!
Could you let me have a wet dream?
*****...Autodesk will open source Linux Maya, which will be merged with Blender and the Open Source community will then have a full kick ass 3D modelling technology =oP...
The End.*****
Thanks, Ill change my underwear now.
DVDJon
Where art thou?
I agree with you in the "good" potential for this technology, I remember some time ago that Walt Disney was testing this technology I thought it would be quite nice if they made self vending machines (like the Coke or candies machines) with these kind of DVD's.
I am pretty shure only the new releases would be there but it would be useful. That way you only put your coins (5 dlls or whatever) and get your movie.
*But*, I do disagree with the quantity of thrash that this [disposable DVDs] would generate. You have no idea of the quantity of CD's that are disposed in the world. It is my opinion that those same machines MUST have a place to dispose your used DVD's (and why not other CD's that you have) and make the company responsible for recycling the material.
Of course, if you are one of those that think "why would I give THEM back the CD I just bought! I wont make they work" you could always put it in your thrash and continue polluting the environment.
OMFG where are mod points when you need them.
This is the must funny thing I have read in quite a long time... and really on time for the GP troll post!
Cheers parent!
hahaha
At least my girlfriend wont be so pissed of when I fart O_o
Imagine "mmmm what is that smell dear? suddenly I would like to eat a Mint Lamb Kebab!
My point was that most users don't really control their boxes already
So what does dont really control their boxes means? they can turn it on , type a letter, a recipe, print, write, check their emails, chat with their friends etc.
You are saying that the autoupdate feature is a bad thing because they (in the case that they didnt asked the user) where modyfing the system. Please stick this into your head, USERS DO NOT CARE.
What does control mean for them? It means being able to press that power button and after a while being able to write their letter, they do not care if the "thing" (aka program) that let them write their letter is around all the internet and everyone can see its inners (aka sourcecode) or that it is from a bad ass company that want to profit (aka Microsoft).
They buy the computer, turn it on and write, chat, check email and some of them type www.google.com
So, your comment was only a troll, and you show it on yor second comment, WTF is the difference for most users if they don't have much knowledge about the operating system- so the default settings, regardless of OS, determine behavior and data control.?
May or may not but you could try changing the Windows Shell to be your browser (like firefox). And if you have a complete office suite online you could use it and save your files locally.
Just wonder, how much space does MS Office (or OpenOffice) takes? I know it is not too much for todays standards but, it would be nice if you could have all that for you or even a computer without a hard disk (imagine the power of a complete Word Processor in a Palm, wirst watch or whatever). And you only need to have your USB drive to save your data.
Also, if you have your firefox "profile" saved in your USB drive it could be loaded each time you entered a new different computer. This is a great way to personlize your desktop no?
I think this AJAX thing would be a great implementation of the Active Desktop thing that microsoft tried (i have not seen any useful example of it), I tried puting netvibes.com as my Active desktop but it did not work and, I have to configure it each time I change a browser (or delete cookies...)).