The apparent collaboration with the aliens and such. However logically if so much was at stake with aliens so advanced and such I would break a group of the NSA/CIA combo and track that operson down or perhaps just very publically blame some already evil person to prevent the alien's wrath.
Since I have a little trouble believing you are there any references from an objective (read non environmentalist source) source that sites some field in Kenya where farmers 1 and 2 actually experienced the evil things from happening.
Ok I may risk a great backlash but has anyone ever thought that maybe, just maybe that some of these third world countries would have been better off with some form of European colonial rule? Reasoning is quite simple in relation to what is actually going on. 1. To create a stable nation you need a stable government 2. To have a stable government you need a stable population of at least semi-happy people. 3. To have semi-happy people you have to have basic necessities such as clean water, food, and medical care. 4. To have all of the things in 3 you need to have the infrastructure to support it and that usually means having 1 and 2 sometime in the past. 5. All of these forces combined allows for the creation of technology which allows more of 1-4 to occur. When little countries think that they want to create a new country they effectively eliminate 3-5 for a while. This then allows for a decrease of lapse in 1 and 2. I get a real kick out of some of these arguments that all these "evil" corporation are doing "really bad things". I live in a world where basically people are given one of several choices they can increase in their power or allow it to stagnate and then slide backwards. In the last decade I have been hearing more of these little arguments that sound like perfect mimics or something some pot smoking hipie would have said. I guess I think that people should be thinking about things that will allow them to get jobs and make money. I guess since I am not living in some third world country and don't have the luxry of taking a machete to my neighbor's head to steal his withered turnips dosn't make practal concerns any more non useful. I have studied and looked at things about these corporations and have seen what appears to be some rather nice improvements especially in getting people fed. If people are fed then perhaps they can survive better and not have to fear death or lives of lonliness and such. A great deal of my schooling was based in the 1990s in terms of actual data and most of my opinions were made in the 80s about such key issues. Americans are not the great satan nor are they inherently evil. But you have to wonder about effectiveness on certain key issues. If I spend all of my time trying to help all of these displaced/helpless/victims of corporations/victims of the evil Americans/insert your favorite post-modern phrase here. I have read several thousand publications, I have close friends and relatives and other acquantainces who have traveled extensively and thourally to all sorts of places. Guess what the consensus of all these great learned men and women some of whom were holders of prestigeous awards and even a couple of the Noble Peace Prize holders. No once even thinks that the world is comming apart at the seams. This is not the x-files and conspiracies are very exposable because there are many differing and large gaping moles now adays.
Has this instability been actually documented?
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I reawlly don't believe such statements that having variable temperature would cause anything but varing Mhz ratings.
Why does the type of power source matter?
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I can understand if you need a certain ammount of power but the type shouldn't matter in the slightest.
Usually these places are just crappy wintel and software outlets but I may be a little uninformed (I had a rather unpleaseant experience trying to get an hp48g serial link cable for the calculator)
I think a little trip over to lego would do just nicely or maybe toys r us. I don't know what to do about the "bright and shiny" part maybe some furniture polish on a oak cofee table might do the trick or perhaps pyrite I hear that works well for shiny and fooled a great deal of people:)
If I operate a convent bestiality porn site or I operate a site for Barney and his little friends makes no difference. If you give money to someone for a service then you are obgligated by law to give them that service or give a total refund. If a person is refused from being able to get a service that is open to others and the others are not under similar restrictions then you are in fact descriminating against them and that is also against the law and you can file a suit. I would also be suing NSI for their predatory and descriminatory actions.
I just would like to wonder why anyone actually bother with toys anyway? If you are involved with computers you most likely are not playing with that new Pikachu action figure instead of writing that new device driver for that video card you boss wants anyway.
So basically just pick another domain registering company and get etoy up again. If the NSI wants to be vile about it then just go somewhere else. Exactly where is etoy operating from anyway?
I have been to a few sites that basically have similar urls to a major company (plus or minus a few letters) and they have a little message saying that basically "are you looking for blah.com? well go there) and such with a link in bold. Then all you have to do is to have another large link that allows for the people who really wanted to go to etoy or whatever to go there if they want with just one more click. This would have solved the problem without the need for lost revenue. I don't know about you people but after the first few days of no utilities and no food in a cold dark house I would be looking at any solution.
1. DVD technology is quite expensive for me on the PC 2. I really can't upgrade this machine with said hardware 3. I don't really watch that many movies and I also have a little thing that I believe that in a nutshell says that since I am only basically guaranteed at most on the average about 70-80 years of total life that dosn't count good years (unlike the last year) and I only read a (non technical book) once and watch movies only once because I want to watch them all 4. DVDs don't interest me as a medium 5. There are usually very effective intelligence countermeasures that work against even the best surveylance techniques that the evil ones might think to use. 6. Display technology hasn't reached an affordable level where I would need to use linux to actually watch DVDs on my PC with my monitor 7. Every time I usually do anything in my extensive life experience it has usually not gone anywhere of any significance. So basically I don't have any bread and butter issues that are affected.
I remember posting a reply to the story when this thing first became a problem. Basically the way I reason is that if you want to do something like this just to it in secret or with an alias. Just get a crap e-mail account at hotmail and a homepage at xoom or geocities and then have it up on the web all with aliases pointing to various random fake addresses and such. Then when the goombas try to get the people who actually did anything (the writing of the program) then all they have to go on is just an alias and nothing else there. I may be over simplifing the problem but I would rather have the feeling that I had accomplished something good in relative secret then have fame at the cost of a law suit. What exactly are the fines for this offence if these individuals are found guilty? Most likely not too harsh but still.
I would have to disagree with some of the sentiments about the sixties being manifest in any large scale. California has been for quite a while a very "progressive" area in terms of ideology. Politically things are quite boring compared to previous times in the history of the world. All wars that are currently fought in are usually just one sided scrimishes with petty thugs and nothing more. Most people don't engage in forms of civil disobedience that are likely to go nowhere. The only reason Winston Smith survived so long was because he didn't act out immediately and get vaporized.
It can be anybody's holiday my friend, not just those who believe in Christ.
Humans commonly associate with what they are most familar with; this is a basic survival instinct and is the best thing that one can do to survive in any environment where the new and interesting is usually a very bad thing. (ex. wow look at this tasty looking plant with purple leaves I wonder what it would taste like? might make a good stew!)
Oh, and I think race had something to do with it too...
In most areas of the world race is usually not revelent. In the United States we have problems of that sort a great deal more than other places. The only exception would be the Middle east or maybe parts of Central Africa.
>While I realize that the anti-religous zealots may be offended by my association of Jesus w/ Christmas *boggle*,
Weel, technically, Christmas originally didn't have Christ in it. The church is responsible for that. Ever wonder why Christmas is co close to the winter solstice?
Well if I remember correctly the birth of christ was another date and just biggybacked on some holiday for the roman goddess saturn or greek demeter I may be incorrect. Christ is a good association I guess if you are a christian because its a good date and starts the cycle of increasing light (winter solstice) with a number of positive emotions that humans have need of. Dispair is quite nice for most of the year but on christhmas and surrounding winter time people have need to banish some of these things. Although I did spend most of my time playing Shadow Man for the N64 so I guess I invited it in.
That story gives me the creeps. What sort of a holiday has this turned into? It's all about consumption and greed for some apparently. These kids seem to have learned their own meanings at an early age.
I do not believe that many holidays are almost anything with material components. Social interactions are nice but when it comes to something interesting material want is quite nice. The material want assuages the need of the moment and then allows for whatever form of advancement to occur in the form of tradition and ritual. I mean what would Christhmas morning be without presents? How many of you slashdotters out there had many childhood memories of anticipation and desire about christhmas morning. The addition of wrapping paper also enhances the experience and allows for more interest and immagination.
Apparently, these children never got the point of Christmas... And the Santa missed it, too.
Well I have always had a difference of opinion about that. Christians believe that Christ was born that night citing the bible on that. I just this year decided to call it gift day. I mean if you don't have any family at all or anyone you really care about dosn't buying presents for yourself seem rather silly? Don't holidays just get rather superficial?
What kind of a Santa ignores a child?
Ever seen Married with Children? They had an episode on once where Al was ropped in to getting presents for his wife and children by them singing him up for odd jobs for 12 days before christhmas. The last was a Santa. Basically children are rude and usually not that interesting to be around.
What kind of child then gangs up and beats Santa into submission, and then steals toys and candy?
A child who was gipped by santa and then decided to get revenge. A great deal of the problems we have as a society can be attributed to jealousy and revenge.
This is a case where everybody was in the wrong. heck, Santa even used some kind of caustic glue for his fake beard! (not to bright, eh?)
Maybe so but I think that anyone who works with children and individuals who plan such events should have strategically placed "elves" to deal with such problems.
What this means is that for some things it costs money or at least more money for the government to get that information to you. Think about it. Yes the information that identifies a position in the US via a ZIP code as public inbformation. You could very easily just get a collection of all of these and just publish them in an open source book or something. What really takes it in the government's rear is trying to pay or distrubute everything to everyone cost effectively or conviently. Do they tend to want to favor more money to fund their activities? Yes. Will they prevent you from obtaining that information? No. Their search interface probably gets more hits per day than you might realize. Since they can only afford so much to pay for maintaince and upgrading the server for content then they need a way to offset that cost so they have the entire thing to sell in a printed version. For something similar take a look at http://thomas.loc.gov and look at the congressional reccord. This reccords every single thing that is done or said in the house and the sente for the day. Now you can get the entire thing off their web site for free but if you want something more convient you have to talk to the government printing office http://www.gpo.gov. Since everyone wants budget cuts and lower taxes this is what we get. As for your concern about street names this is not likely. If you want to have someone use you address you can just sell your house. Just similarly how say 234.34.123.34 is an address to someplace on the internet and is owned by a computer as a physical address in a geographical locality the same can be said for a house address. If someone were to but names of things you would have Cleavlend in Minnesota or LA in New York State. This cannot happen.
Give the man a break ok?
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You know if you really did something like that you should have read the liscence first. Gee I certainly not break the bank on someone elses work and get that close to the fire. There are usually a couple of people who use the little corruption of the GPL "GPV" and I am guessing you are one of the ones that do except you post anonymously. If it weren't for programs written under the GPL most likely I wold have to have sprung for a totally new computer because of instability and bloat in my software at least 10 times since I first got my first one some years ago. There was a really good reason why Stallman decided to write these things: because the ones that they had when he was around were too damn expensive and slow for development purposes and security parameters. I saw a paper on the internet from about oh 1994-95 or thereabouts when linux was just getting off the ground as a viable OS for at least a few people. It discused reliability of unix commad line utilities. Guess what most of the commercial distributions of unix had at least one if not more major utilities that failed their tests. Not only that but because of him we also have unix on PCs for which I am eternially grateful for someone thinking of so that it could really work.
The word you are looking for is distribution.
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You use a linux distribution. So it still would be proper to say that the utils are linux utils. When you have an NT system and you use or create an application you say it's an NT app or such. The same applies to linux. A kernel dosn't make an OS.
Just stop thinking that tera\bytes are the limit. Get more hardware and more computers. Create petabyte databases. In fact have millions of petabyte locations world wide and create a series of multipetabyte databases that one can use. Categories are nice but some (most) sites are personal sites and these sites chage quite often in subject matter. While the categories are nice we should have a community planned and maintained categorical system along with a plain text search. Have identifier tags that go along with every web site and then have a standalone and a web based version of this program which will allow for anyone to create a hierical listing of anything according to tcertain tastes and peramaters.
Amen to that. The fastest way to kill your karma on here is to take a stand against the GPV. Calling it exactly what it is - a viral tool for RMS to promote and enforce his utopian worldview - is enough to send GPV zealots into a frenzy of seek-and-destroy moderation.
You know I don't think it's a virus or at least one that does real harm. What you are basically saying is that if I wish to write a program then I *must* by default use the GNU GPL uhhh no! Basically all the GPL is doing is saying that you cannot take from the code that has the GPL and use it for say a new product that would not be free. Geez I can't see how that hurts at all. In fact if you are sufficiently motivated it will spur innovation. Think about it; a race against time to see who gets the use of a particular feture in their code base the proprietary and others or the GPL. You know stating the name of something just because you don't like it and changing it to something that will cause people to react to negatively is not usually done in polite company. Would you run into a church and start yelling profanity with a bottle of jack daniels in one hand, a cigar in your mouth and a couple of hookers with you? I am not closed minded with regard to the use of other liscences. I have never actually released any production level code but in principal I would use the GPL because people could keep my code alive for as long as possible. Your bias towards RMS is interesting but not atypical to a great many people who were misunderstood in their time.
The only reason people still are able to use a great deal of the programs that we now have for linux, the growth of the operating system, and the movement of open source was due to him. Actually you shouldn't be so virtrolic with your responses about something that you didn't have to use anyway. The GPL started with software that was ORIGINALLY WRITTEN BY HIM that's right HIM. We all choose to run his code and code produced by likeminded people across the world. It's just like a STD in that you can only get one if you decide to engage in practices that will allow you to become infected. In this case if I am not too bold to say that you also choose wheather to use the gnu products. The same as if I choose to use windows or any other product that has a liscence. If I use windows I follow the liscencing if I don't want to I use another OS like linux, OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, QNX or another choice. Don't take it out on the world if you spent about 5 years writing that lisp function for emacs only to find out that you can't sell it.
The apparent collaboration with the aliens and such. However logically if so much was at stake with aliens so advanced and such I would break a group of the NSA/CIA combo and track that operson down or perhaps just very publically blame some already evil person to prevent the alien's wrath.
Since I have a little trouble believing you are there any references from an objective (read non environmentalist source) source that sites some field in Kenya where farmers 1 and 2 actually experienced the evil things from happening.
Ok I may risk a great backlash but has anyone ever thought that maybe, just maybe that some of these third world countries would have been better off with some form of European colonial rule? Reasoning is quite simple in relation to what is actually going on.
1. To create a stable nation you need a stable government
2. To have a stable government you need a stable population of at least semi-happy people.
3. To have semi-happy people you have to have basic necessities such as clean water, food, and medical care.
4. To have all of the things in 3 you need to have the infrastructure to support it and that usually means having 1 and 2 sometime in the past.
5. All of these forces combined allows for the creation of technology which allows more of 1-4 to occur.
When little countries think that they want to create a new country they effectively eliminate 3-5 for a while. This then allows for a decrease of lapse in 1 and 2.
I get a real kick out of some of these arguments that all these "evil" corporation are doing "really bad things". I live in a world where basically people are given one of several choices they can increase in their power or allow it to stagnate and then slide backwards. In the last decade I have been hearing more of these little arguments that sound like perfect mimics or something some pot smoking hipie would have said. I guess I think that people should be thinking about things that will allow them to get jobs and make money. I guess since I am not living in some third world country and don't have the luxry of taking a machete to my neighbor's head to steal his withered turnips dosn't make practal concerns any more non useful.
I have studied and looked at things about these corporations and have seen what appears to be some rather nice improvements especially in getting people fed. If people are fed then perhaps they can survive better and not have to fear death or lives of lonliness and such. A great deal of my schooling was based in the 1990s in terms of actual data and most of my opinions were made in the 80s about such key issues. Americans are not the great satan nor are they inherently evil. But you have to wonder about effectiveness on certain key issues. If I spend all of my time trying to help all of these displaced/helpless/victims of corporations/victims of the evil Americans/insert your favorite post-modern phrase here.
I have read several thousand publications, I have close friends and relatives and other acquantainces who have traveled extensively and thourally to all sorts of places. Guess what the consensus of all these great learned men and women some of whom were holders of prestigeous awards and even a couple of the Noble Peace Prize holders. No once even thinks that the world is comming apart at the seams. This is not the x-files and conspiracies are very exposable because there are many differing and large gaping moles now adays.
I reawlly don't believe such statements that having variable temperature would cause anything but varing Mhz ratings.
I can understand if you need a certain ammount of power but the type shouldn't matter in the slightest.
Usually these places are just crappy wintel and software outlets but I may be a little uninformed (I had a rather unpleaseant experience trying to get an hp48g serial link cable for the calculator)
I think that cheap high bandwidth internet access would be a major plus since most people want connectivity and usually go where it is the best.
I think a little trip over to lego would do just nicely or maybe toys r us. I don't know what to do about the "bright and shiny" part maybe some furniture polish on a oak cofee table might do the trick or perhaps pyrite I hear that works well for shiny and fooled a great deal of people :)
If I operate a convent bestiality porn site or I operate a site for Barney and his little friends makes no difference. If you give money to someone for a service then you are obgligated by law to give them that service or give a total refund. If a person is refused from being able to get a service that is open to others and the others are not under similar restrictions then you are in fact descriminating against them and that is also against the law and you can file a suit. I would also be suing NSI for their predatory and descriminatory actions.
I just would like to wonder why anyone actually bother with toys anyway? If you are involved with computers you most likely are not playing with that new Pikachu action figure instead of writing that new device driver for that video card you boss wants anyway.
So basically just pick another domain registering company and get etoy up again. If the NSI wants to be vile about it then just go somewhere else. Exactly where is etoy operating from anyway?
I have been to a few sites that basically have similar urls to a major company (plus or minus a few letters) and they have a little message saying that basically "are you looking for blah.com? well go there) and such with a link in bold. Then all you have to do is to have another large link that allows for the people who really wanted to go to etoy or whatever to go there if they want with just one more click. This would have solved the problem without the need for lost revenue. I don't know about you people but after the first few days of no utilities and no food in a cold dark house I would be looking at any solution.
I thought that Kb and Toys R Us were bigger than that and a hell of a lot more.
For at least several reasons.
1. DVD technology is quite expensive for me on the PC
2. I really can't upgrade this machine with said hardware
3. I don't really watch that many movies and I also have a little thing that I believe that in a nutshell says that since I am only basically guaranteed at most on the average about 70-80 years of total life that dosn't count good years (unlike the last year) and I only read a (non technical book) once and watch movies only once because I want to watch them all
4. DVDs don't interest me as a medium
5. There are usually very effective intelligence countermeasures that work against even the best surveylance techniques that the evil ones might think to use.
6. Display technology hasn't reached an affordable level where I would need to use linux to actually watch DVDs on my PC with my monitor
7. Every time I usually do anything in my extensive life experience it has usually not gone anywhere of any significance.
So basically I don't have any bread and butter issues that are affected.
I remember posting a reply to the story when this thing first became a problem. Basically the way I reason is that if you want to do something like this just to it in secret or with an alias. Just get a crap e-mail account at hotmail and a homepage at xoom or geocities and then have it up on the web all with aliases pointing to various random fake addresses and such.
Then when the goombas try to get the people who actually did anything (the writing of the program) then all they have to go on is just an alias and nothing else there.
I may be over simplifing the problem but I would rather have the feeling that I had accomplished something good in relative secret then have fame at the cost of a law suit. What exactly are the fines for this offence if these individuals are found guilty? Most likely not too harsh but still.
I would have to disagree with some of the sentiments about the sixties being manifest in any large scale. California has been for quite a while a very "progressive" area in terms of ideology. Politically things are quite boring compared to previous times in the history of the world. All wars that are currently fought in are usually just one sided scrimishes with petty thugs and nothing more. Most people don't engage in forms of civil disobedience that are likely to go nowhere. The only reason Winston Smith survived so long was because he didn't act out immediately and get vaporized.
It can be anybody's holiday my friend, not just those who believe in Christ.
Humans commonly associate with what they are most familar with; this is a basic survival instinct and is the best thing that one can do to survive in any environment where the new and interesting is usually a very bad thing. (ex. wow look at this tasty looking plant with purple leaves I wonder what it would taste like? might make a good stew!)
Oh, and I think race had something to do with it too...
In most areas of the world race is usually not revelent. In the United States we have problems of that sort a great deal more than other places. The only exception would be the Middle east or maybe parts of Central Africa.
>While I realize that the anti-religous zealots may be offended by my association of Jesus w/ Christmas *boggle*,
Weel, technically, Christmas originally didn't have Christ in it. The church is responsible for that.
Ever wonder why Christmas is co close to the winter solstice?
Well if I remember correctly the birth of christ was another date and just biggybacked on some holiday for the roman goddess saturn or greek demeter I may be incorrect. Christ is a good association I guess if you are a christian because its a good date and starts the cycle of increasing light (winter solstice) with a number of positive emotions that humans have need of. Dispair is quite nice for most of the year but on christhmas and surrounding winter time people have need to banish some of these things. Although I did spend most of my time playing Shadow Man for the N64 so I guess I invited it in.
That story gives me the creeps. What sort of a holiday has this turned into? It's all about consumption and greed for some apparently. These kids seem to have learned their own meanings at an early age.
I do not believe that many holidays are almost anything with material components. Social interactions are nice but when it comes to something interesting material want is quite nice. The material want assuages the need of the moment and then allows for whatever form of advancement to occur in the form of tradition and ritual. I mean what would Christhmas morning be without presents? How many of you slashdotters out there had many childhood memories of anticipation and desire about christhmas morning. The addition of wrapping paper also enhances the experience and allows for more interest and immagination.
Apparently, these children never got the point of Christmas... And the Santa missed it, too.
Well I have always had a difference of opinion about that. Christians believe that Christ was born that night citing the bible on that. I just this year decided to call it gift day. I mean if you don't have any family at all or anyone you really care about dosn't buying presents for yourself seem rather silly? Don't holidays just get rather superficial?
What kind of a Santa ignores a child?
Ever seen Married with Children? They had an episode on once where Al was ropped in to getting presents for his wife and children by them singing him up for odd jobs for 12 days before christhmas. The last was a Santa. Basically children are rude and usually not that interesting to be around.
What kind of child then gangs up and beats Santa into submission, and then steals toys and candy?
A child who was gipped by santa and then decided to get revenge. A great deal of the problems we have as a society can be attributed to jealousy and revenge.
This is a case where everybody was in the wrong. heck, Santa even used some kind of caustic glue for his fake beard! (not to bright, eh?)
Maybe so but I think that anyone who works with children and individuals who plan such events should have strategically placed "elves" to deal with such problems.
What this means is that for some things it costs money or at least more money for the government to get that information to you.
Think about it. Yes the information that identifies a position in the US via a ZIP code as public inbformation. You could very easily just get a collection of all of these and just publish them in an open source book or something.
What really takes it in the government's rear is trying to pay or distrubute everything to everyone cost effectively or conviently. Do they tend to want to favor more money to fund their activities? Yes. Will they prevent you from obtaining that information? No.
Their search interface probably gets more hits per day than you might realize. Since they can only afford so much to pay for maintaince and upgrading the server for content then they need a way to offset that cost so they have the entire thing to sell in a printed version.
For something similar take a look at http://thomas.loc.gov and look at the congressional reccord. This reccords every single thing that is done or said in the house and the sente for the day. Now you can get the entire thing off their web site for free but if you want something more convient you have to talk to the government printing office http://www.gpo.gov. Since everyone wants budget cuts and lower taxes this is what we get.
As for your concern about street names this is not likely. If you want to have someone use you address you can just sell your house. Just similarly how say 234.34.123.34 is an address to someplace on the internet and is owned by a computer as a physical address in a geographical locality the same can be said for a house address. If someone were to but names of things you would have Cleavlend in Minnesota or LA in New York State. This cannot happen.
You know if you really did something like that you should have read the liscence first. Gee I certainly not break the bank on someone elses work and get that close to the fire.
There are usually a couple of people who use the little corruption of the GPL "GPV" and I am guessing you are one of the ones that do except you post anonymously.
If it weren't for programs written under the GPL most likely I wold have to have sprung for a totally new computer because of instability and bloat in my software at least 10 times since I first got my first one some years ago.
There was a really good reason why Stallman decided to write these things: because the ones that they had when he was around were too damn expensive and slow for development purposes and security parameters.
I saw a paper on the internet from about oh 1994-95 or thereabouts when linux was just getting off the ground as a viable OS for at least a few people. It discused reliability of unix commad line utilities. Guess what most of the commercial distributions of unix had at least one if not more major utilities that failed their tests. Not only that but because of him we also have unix on PCs for which I am eternially grateful for someone thinking of so that it could really work.
You use a linux distribution. So it still would be proper to say that the utils are linux utils. When you have an NT system and you use or create an application you say it's an NT app or such. The same applies to linux. A kernel dosn't make an OS.
Just stop thinking that tera\bytes are the limit. Get more hardware and more computers. Create petabyte databases. In fact have millions of petabyte locations world wide and create a series of multipetabyte databases that one can use.
Categories are nice but some (most) sites are personal sites and these sites chage quite often in subject matter.
While the categories are nice we should have a community planned and maintained categorical system along with a plain text search. Have identifier tags that go along with every web site and then have a standalone and a web based version of this program which will allow for anyone to create a hierical listing of anything according to tcertain tastes and peramaters.
Amen to that. The fastest way to kill your karma on here is to take a stand against the GPV. Calling it exactly what it is - a viral tool for RMS to promote and enforce his utopian worldview - is enough to send GPV zealots into a
frenzy of seek-and-destroy moderation.
You know I don't think it's a virus or at least one that does real harm. What you are basically saying is that if I wish to write a program then I *must* by default use the GNU GPL uhhh no! Basically all the GPL is doing is saying that you cannot take from the code that has the GPL and use it for say a new product that would not be free. Geez I can't see how that hurts at all. In fact if you are sufficiently motivated it will spur innovation. Think about it; a race against time to see who gets the use of a particular feture in their code base the proprietary and others or the GPL. You know stating the name of something just because you don't like it and changing it to something that will cause people to react to negatively is not usually done in polite company. Would you run into a church and start yelling profanity with a bottle of jack daniels in one hand, a cigar in your mouth and a couple of hookers with you? I am not closed minded with regard to the use of other liscences. I have never actually released any production level code but in principal I would use the GPL because people could keep my code alive for as long as possible. Your bias towards RMS is interesting but not atypical to a great many people who were misunderstood in their time.
The only reason people still are able to use a great deal of the programs that we now have for linux, the growth of the operating system, and the movement of open source was due to him. Actually you shouldn't be so virtrolic with your responses about something that you didn't have to use anyway. The GPL started with software that was ORIGINALLY WRITTEN BY HIM that's right HIM. We all choose to run his code and code produced by likeminded people across the world. It's just like a STD in that you can only get one if you decide to engage in practices that will allow you to become infected. In this case if I am not too bold to say that you also choose wheather to use the gnu products. The same as if I choose to use windows or any other product that has a liscence. If I use windows I follow the liscencing if I don't want to I use another OS like linux, OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, QNX or another choice. Don't take it out on the world if you spent about 5 years writing that lisp function for emacs only to find out that you can't sell it.