If the figures are even accurate (and there's nothing I can tell that indicates that these figures are, look more like the classic claiming units shipped is the same as units sold), it would still be a drop in the bocket.
Surface Pro and Surface RT are failures. Get over it.
Technicians are not by default scientists. A doctor and engineers emperically derived principles, but it takes more than that to actually practice science. Using knowledge gained through science is not practicing science.
Bullshit. He's a professional magician and thus eminently qualified to spot and reproduce the kind of nonsense "super naturalists" use to fool the naive.
Accepting wild ass claims just because someone insists "me and my buddies saw it, do we look like liars to you" is not science. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So get to work. Provide some actual evidence. Otherwise, you're just another person in the long list of people making crazy claims. I'm sure you're a nice guy, and probably even sincere. But nice and sincere simply is inadequate for anyone to believe, let alone spend a good deal of money and time, researching your claim.
Or, as Carl Sagan put it so well "They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
But even drilling into the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets took considerable effort, and that was with manned crews who could be on site to manage the process. The best we can do right now is have a lander that can drill a few inches into the surface. While I think that might be valuable, particularly as it seems likely that at least some areas of Europa's surface are geologically active (and thus we might get some signature of any complex chemistry going on in the ocean deep underneath), I still think we are a long way from getting any kind of automated drilling rig through.
I think getting a good idea of the internal structure of Europa should be the first order of business, and that's where the whole seismograph-impactor idea comes from. Besides, if you can get a probe to smack into Europa at a reasonably decent speed you might be able to get some good spectrographic data from the ice cloud it produces.
So, in other words, your qualifications are no more "science" than a baker's or a doctor's.
And the reason these phenomenon are frequently discounted is because they almost inevitably do not stand up to scrutiny. How many times do researchers have to waste their time on claims of spirits moving dishes before finally researchers throw up their hands and decide their time would be much better spent in areas where fruitful results are likely,.
I'll be blunt, the paranormal "field of research" is populated by a long list of quacks and frauds, with maybe a very very very very very small number of researchers who actually are willing to apply appropriate methodologies. The reason that guys like James Randi, Penn and Teller and the Mythbusters are so successful at what they do is because they are experts in what one might call the illusionary arts, and thus are uniquely qualified to recognize when some spoon bender type is playing a con.
And as a final note, it amazes me how, after a century and a half of pretty deep research into how the human mind functions, and all too often malfunctions, that people are so willing to absolutely trust their senses when objects or environment seem to function in a counter-intuitive fashion. There have been no lack of studies that demonstrate just how fallible our senses and our cognitive abilities can be under extreme and sometimes even normal circumstances, and yet those rational explanations are rejected out of hand in favor of wild ass claims of ghosts, spirits, UFOs, the Hand of God, the Holy Spirit, mystery electro-magnetic (or insert your favorite quasi-scientific phrase; quantum seems quite popular these days) and yes, sometimes just being plain conned.
1. What's your degree in? 2. How do you know things have in fact moved, and have you attempted in any way to find other explanations (ie. shifting foundation).
Indeed. We're a long ways away from having the technical know-how to drill through several kilometers of ice (and lets' face it, we really have no idea how thick the ice "crust" may be), either by robot or even manned mission. First things first.
I think something like Cassini–Huygens is probably the way to go. If I was in charge and had a good budget, I'd probably have two probes; a lander that could attempt some surface measurements, perhaps land near where surface ice is the youngest for possible signs of biological activity, and a seismometer onboard. The other probe would just smash into the moon to try to ring it like a gong to get some good seismic readings that ought to reveal more about the thickness of the ice crust, the depth of the liquid ocean beneath and data on the core. You would also have the main spaceship which could fly around the Jovian system for several years, get some data on some of the other cool Jovian satellites.
At some point we'll be able to get a probe to the liquid ocean on Europa, but until then we can take some good initial steps like we've done with Titan.
Was it a mistake? Oracle has blown huge sums of cash in acquiring and then attempting to defend and monetize Sun's IP. And what have they got for all of it? Linux is still carving into Solaris and Sparc market share. Java was already leaving Sun's hands long before Oracle bought it.
Oracle bought very little for a lot of money, and now they're left arguing a spec is the same as an implementation.
I expect Ellison to join Ballmer in the stupid executive's retirement home. Both have fucked up hugely.
You do understand I trust that since roman times the bulk of people in Europe were indentured workers. Damn few possessions, working land largely owned by someone else, and almost certainly no education.
You're an ignoramus. Pick up a fucking book and quit trying to make history align to your pathetic libertarianism and even more malign social Darwinism.
That's what my daughter did. She watched pirated copies of GOT, and then as soon as the DVD for the season was available, went out and bought them. This show has produced a pretty huge fan base (I like the books better myself) so I imagine from HBOs perspective BitTorrent is more of a marketing tool.
So ultimately the lesson is that if you put out a product good enough that people are willing to pay for, piracy becomes more of a kind of marketing than a destructive activity.
Your ignorance of human history is absolutely astonishing. Your lack of even basic knowledge of how most humans have lived ther lives indicates a woeful education, and yet you would declare that as the flaw in so many others.
1. It isn't your capital, it's the taxes that an elected legislature empowered by the Constitution collects. 2. Don't wreck a perfectly good economic system with Libertarian nonsense.
Yes, I'm going to pick performance over pointless gimmicks.
If the figures are even accurate (and there's nothing I can tell that indicates that these figures are, look more like the classic claiming units shipped is the same as units sold), it would still be a drop in the bocket.
Surface Pro and Surface RT are failures. Get over it.
And yet nobody is buying it either. However wonderful it may be, you can still buy a better speced notebook for the same price.
I believe you are Satan, and apparently its unscientific for you to deny it.
Atheists lack a belied in god(s). It is not the same as a denial.
Very clever, ignoring what I said and simply restating your moronic position.
Technicians are not by default scientists. A doctor and engineers emperically derived principles, but it takes more than that to actually practice science. Using knowledge gained through science is not practicing science.
I'm a Canadian and the acronym RFP is used here as well. Judging by a quick search it's also uses in the UK (ie. http://www.jisc.ac.uk/fundingopportunities/funding_calls/2012/07/goldoa.aspx ).
What we can thus gather from this is that you're an ignorant fucking retard.
Bullshit. He's a professional magician and thus eminently qualified to spot and reproduce the kind of nonsense "super naturalists" use to fool the naive.
It could be the awesomest ever, but in my Windows 7 shop, it's irrelevant.
Thank goodness there's Chrome, Opera and Firefox.
Accepting wild ass claims just because someone insists "me and my buddies saw it, do we look like liars to you" is not science. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So get to work. Provide some actual evidence. Otherwise, you're just another person in the long list of people making crazy claims. I'm sure you're a nice guy, and probably even sincere. But nice and sincere simply is inadequate for anyone to believe, let alone spend a good deal of money and time, researching your claim.
Or, as Carl Sagan put it so well "They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
I had read about that. I think there are concerns about contamination, not to mention launching a pretty powerful radioactive payload.
Sigh, things would be a lot easier if we had mining, refining and spaceship/probe assembly plants in orbit.
But even drilling into the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets took considerable effort, and that was with manned crews who could be on site to manage the process. The best we can do right now is have a lander that can drill a few inches into the surface. While I think that might be valuable, particularly as it seems likely that at least some areas of Europa's surface are geologically active (and thus we might get some signature of any complex chemistry going on in the ocean deep underneath), I still think we are a long way from getting any kind of automated drilling rig through.
I think getting a good idea of the internal structure of Europa should be the first order of business, and that's where the whole seismograph-impactor idea comes from. Besides, if you can get a probe to smack into Europa at a reasonably decent speed you might be able to get some good spectrographic data from the ice cloud it produces.
So, in other words, your qualifications are no more "science" than a baker's or a doctor's.
And the reason these phenomenon are frequently discounted is because they almost inevitably do not stand up to scrutiny. How many times do researchers have to waste their time on claims of spirits moving dishes before finally researchers throw up their hands and decide their time would be much better spent in areas where fruitful results are likely,.
I'll be blunt, the paranormal "field of research" is populated by a long list of quacks and frauds, with maybe a very very very very very small number of researchers who actually are willing to apply appropriate methodologies. The reason that guys like James Randi, Penn and Teller and the Mythbusters are so successful at what they do is because they are experts in what one might call the illusionary arts, and thus are uniquely qualified to recognize when some spoon bender type is playing a con.
And as a final note, it amazes me how, after a century and a half of pretty deep research into how the human mind functions, and all too often malfunctions, that people are so willing to absolutely trust their senses when objects or environment seem to function in a counter-intuitive fashion. There have been no lack of studies that demonstrate just how fallible our senses and our cognitive abilities can be under extreme and sometimes even normal circumstances, and yet those rational explanations are rejected out of hand in favor of wild ass claims of ghosts, spirits, UFOs, the Hand of God, the Holy Spirit, mystery electro-magnetic (or insert your favorite quasi-scientific phrase; quantum seems quite popular these days) and yes, sometimes just being plain conned.
1. What's your degree in?
2. How do you know things have in fact moved, and have you attempted in any way to find other explanations (ie. shifting foundation).
Indeed. We're a long ways away from having the technical know-how to drill through several kilometers of ice (and lets' face it, we really have no idea how thick the ice "crust" may be), either by robot or even manned mission. First things first.
I think something like Cassini–Huygens is probably the way to go. If I was in charge and had a good budget, I'd probably have two probes; a lander that could attempt some surface measurements, perhaps land near where surface ice is the youngest for possible signs of biological activity, and a seismometer onboard. The other probe would just smash into the moon to try to ring it like a gong to get some good seismic readings that ought to reveal more about the thickness of the ice crust, the depth of the liquid ocean beneath and data on the core. You would also have the main spaceship which could fly around the Jovian system for several years, get some data on some of the other cool Jovian satellites.
At some point we'll be able to get a probe to the liquid ocean on Europa, but until then we can take some good initial steps like we've done with Titan.
This post could very well be called the Sociopath's Creed.
Was it a mistake? Oracle has blown huge sums of cash in acquiring and then attempting to defend and monetize Sun's IP. And what have they got for all of it? Linux is still carving into Solaris and Sparc market share. Java was already leaving Sun's hands long before Oracle bought it.
Oracle bought very little for a lot of money, and now they're left arguing a spec is the same as an implementation.
I expect Ellison to join Ballmer in the stupid executive's retirement home. Both have fucked up hugely.
You do understand I trust that since roman times the bulk of people in Europe were indentured workers. Damn few possessions, working land largely owned by someone else, and almost certainly no education.
You're an ignoramus. Pick up a fucking book and quit trying to make history align to your pathetic libertarianism and even more malign social Darwinism.
That's what my daughter did. She watched pirated copies of GOT, and then as soon as the DVD for the season was available, went out and bought them. This show has produced a pretty huge fan base (I like the books better myself) so I imagine from HBOs perspective BitTorrent is more of a marketing tool.
So ultimately the lesson is that if you put out a product good enough that people are willing to pay for, piracy becomes more of a kind of marketing than a destructive activity.
Pity more content producers didn't get that.
Indeed. Apple figured this out with iTunes. Sadly they and most major ebook publishers have not figured that out with epubs.
Kudos to Baen Books who have figures it out and sell their non-DRM books in multiple formats at a reasonable price.
Your ignorance of human history is absolutely astonishing. Your lack of even basic knowledge of how most humans have lived ther lives indicates a woeful education, and yet you would declare that as the flaw in so many others.
Education and money aren't hereditary, you idiot.
1. It isn't your capital, it's the taxes that an elected legislature empowered by the Constitution collects.
2. Don't wreck a perfectly good economic system with Libertarian nonsense.