Ok, so lets just pretend for a moment that the 'conservatives' are right: the earth has changes, weather is too unpredictable, chaos theory, etc. etc. Lets assume that NO one really knows or could EVER know how such a complex and seemingly chaotic system works. Isn't that all the MORE reason not to f#ck with it? Or I suppose thats the first thing everyone does when confronted with an enormously complex and possibly fragile system on which their very life depends. "Oh, check out all the buttons on that pilots control deck! lets play with them even though I know nothing about flying an airplane!". This is the best the 'conservatives' can do to argue against global warming? attack the credibility and offer no real alternate explanation?
Sounds similar to the technique used by these troglodytes when bashing the evolutionary theory: come out and attack the science without offering any real alternate scientific explanation, like the guy who sits in the bleachers telling the players how they should play. This is not how science works. to replace Newton Einsteins theory had to explain everything Newtons did, and do it more precisely. But, of course this little detail we all seem to forget in the heat of the argument. Once again, you/.'s out there seem to forget that these people you are dealing with have NO respect for science, or any rules for that matter,at least not when it conflicts with their core political beleifs. To them, their political agenda comes before everything else. Please learn this, and learn it fast. People like that are not only disgusting, they are dangerous-especially when coming from the right (usually those who are from the left and exercise the same philosophy tend to be more of a thing or annoyance or light comedy).
The one fact that NO one (and I mean NO ONE!) can dispute is that the level of C02 in the atmosphere has increased drastically since the industrial revolution.
I love the way a lot of folks who post are more concerned in being perceived as clever in the thread by the slashdot crowd than in actually debating the topic at hand. Who are you trying to impress? My advice is that you consider gettting laid, and if thats not possible perhaps we can start a money raising drive on the site so you can hire a professional. To those who do have wives but insist on showing off; you obviously need to find a more attractive woman.
As to global warming, these issues need to stop being 'debated' because there simply is NO debate within the scientific community. The 'debate' is created by an increasingly impotent and useless mainstream media, usually by making it seem like there are two sides. This is achieved by tricking a real scientist into a debate with another 'scientist' who happens to disagree (usually this other scientist either an employee of some major energy company or one who found jesus recently and received his degree by fishing it out of a trashcan at his local university) Global warming is an accepted fact by the scientific community, so that leaves us with only two productive paths of discusion:
A:- We accuse the MAJORITY of the worldwide scientific community of having some kind of 'political' or 'economic' agenda to perpetuate this 'myth'.
B:- We accuse people of blindly following their political parties lie, regardless of how much data or facts are piled on top of us, because we so zealously believe that our party is 'right' and everyone else is just the 'enemy' trying to steer us away from the righteous path of Jesus, hard work, mom, and apple pie. Or taht everyone else is trying to deceive us with their 'high fallutin' ideers. (note, play the classic American anti-intellectualism card here). Oh, and lets not forgot the necessary impulsive whine about a 'liberal' bias in the media, despite the obvious increasing number of conservative neanderthals with talk shows on ALL the major tv networks. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too.
Considering the present modus operandi of the right wing in the US, and their prior record, I am inclined to believe that the answer is closer to B than it is to A.
The strategy is simple: Create some enormous lie; repeat this lie ad nauseaum and have your corporate owned media repeat it for you until you have crammed it so deep into the masses subconsciousness that no amount of reason or logic can extract it. Then set your sights on something else you want, and repeat. The problem is this: You dont debate with people who believe that pushing a political agenda is more important than anything else: reason, wisdom, science, etc. Its like trying to politely discuss the morality of theft with a burglar as he's robbing your house. Wake up people! You let these azzholes make you debate your facts while they push their blind naked lies.
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Ok, so lets just pretend for a moment that the 'conservatives' are right: the earth has changes, weather is too unpredictable, chaos theory, etc. etc. Lets assume that NO one really knows or could EVER know how such a complex and seemingly chaotic system works. Isn't that all the MORE reason not to f#ck with it? Or I suppose thats the first thing everyone does when confronted with an enormously complex and possibly fragile system on which their very life depends. "Oh, check out all the buttons on that pilots control deck! lets play with them even though I know nothing about flying an airplane!". This is the best the 'conservatives' can do to argue against global warming? attack the credibility and offer no real alternate explanation? Sounds similar to the technique used by these troglodytes when bashing the evolutionary theory: come out and attack the science without offering any real alternate scientific explanation, like the guy who sits in the bleachers telling the players how they should play. This is not how science works. to replace Newton Einsteins theory had to explain everything Newtons did, and do it more precisely. But, of course this little detail we all seem to forget in the heat of the argument. Once again, you /.'s out there seem to forget that these people you are dealing with have NO respect for science, or any rules for that matter,at least not when it conflicts with their core political beleifs. To them, their political agenda comes before everything else. Please learn this, and learn it fast. People like that are not only disgusting, they are dangerous-especially when coming from the right (usually those who are from the left and exercise the same philosophy tend to be more of a thing or annoyance or light comedy).
The one fact that NO one (and I mean NO ONE!) can dispute is that the level of C02 in the atmosphere has increased drastically since the industrial revolution.
I love the way a lot of folks who post are more concerned in being perceived as clever in the thread by the slashdot crowd than in actually debating the topic at hand. Who are you trying to impress? My advice is that you consider gettting laid, and if thats not possible perhaps we can start a money raising drive on the site so you can hire a professional. To those who do have wives but insist on showing off; you obviously need to find a more attractive woman. As to global warming, these issues need to stop being 'debated' because there simply is NO debate within the scientific community. The 'debate' is created by an increasingly impotent and useless mainstream media, usually by making it seem like there are two sides. This is achieved by tricking a real scientist into a debate with another 'scientist' who happens to disagree (usually this other scientist either an employee of some major energy company or one who found jesus recently and received his degree by fishing it out of a trashcan at his local university) Global warming is an accepted fact by the scientific community, so that leaves us with only two productive paths of discusion: A:- We accuse the MAJORITY of the worldwide scientific community of having some kind of 'political' or 'economic' agenda to perpetuate this 'myth'. B:- We accuse people of blindly following their political parties lie, regardless of how much data or facts are piled on top of us, because we so zealously believe that our party is 'right' and everyone else is just the 'enemy' trying to steer us away from the righteous path of Jesus, hard work, mom, and apple pie. Or taht everyone else is trying to deceive us with their 'high fallutin' ideers. (note, play the classic American anti-intellectualism card here). Oh, and lets not forgot the necessary impulsive whine about a 'liberal' bias in the media, despite the obvious increasing number of conservative neanderthals with talk shows on ALL the major tv networks. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too. Considering the present modus operandi of the right wing in the US, and their prior record, I am inclined to believe that the answer is closer to B than it is to A. The strategy is simple: Create some enormous lie; repeat this lie ad nauseaum and have your corporate owned media repeat it for you until you have crammed it so deep into the masses subconsciousness that no amount of reason or logic can extract it. Then set your sights on something else you want, and repeat. The problem is this: You dont debate with people who believe that pushing a political agenda is more important than anything else: reason, wisdom, science, etc. Its like trying to politely discuss the morality of theft with a burglar as he's robbing your house. Wake up people! You let these azzholes make you debate your facts while they push their blind naked lies.