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  1. Re:Unbias of the CBC, pure crap on CBC Opens ZeD.cbc.ca Code · · Score: 1
    "I know this as the fact as I am the one who contacted Randy White. I asked Heathers mother for permission to contact local politicians because we were all suspecting that this was a murder case and wanted to know what the lawmakers would do to change the laws on child killers."

    Really http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2000/11/14/b c_thomas001114.html says "Heather's mother, Jody, says nobody asked her permission to use her daughter's image in this way, and she wants the newsletter stopped"

    So, who's lying? You or Heather's mother?

    Also Mr. White doesn't even seem to be liked by fellow stories http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 27/white_mackay040627.html

    From The Province. Vancouver, B.C.: Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.6

    "They took down the Fence of Hope on Saturday, three weeks after the body of Heather Thomas was discovered.

    But the little girl's memory has hardly been laid to rest -- not when there are vote-hungry politicians on the prowl.

    Yesterday, Heather's grieving mom lashed out at Canadian Alliance MP Randy White for using a newspaper picture of her slain daughter in a political pamphlet.

    "You don't use my daughter's death to boost your campaign," Jody Thomas told Global TV.

    "It's not right. I don't like it."

    Her blunt message to law-and-order hardliner White: "Stop using my daughter.""

    Also, the Vancouver Sun on Nov 22,2000 on A.5 ran a story by Katherine Monk. From the story "It's the preferred prop of Alliance leader Stockwell Day. Other candidates to capitalize on kids have included Liberal leader Jean Chretien, NDP leader Alexa McDonough, Alliance incumbent Randy White (who used an unauthorized image of murder victim Heather Thomas) and Liberal candidate Peter Warkentin (who used an unauthorized image of a kid with Paul Martin)."

    The National Post run on Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.11 a story about what you are talking about. The full text is below

    "VANCOUVER - The Canadian Alliance's justice critic is standing by his use of a photo of a murdered child -- even though the girl's mother has described Randy White's decision as "sick."

    Mr. White, an MP for seven years who is running for re-election in Langley-Abbotsford, yesterday blamed the federal Liberals for creating a controversy that has seen him sharply criticized by Heather Thomas's mother.

    "I am disappointed with the Liberal Party of Canada for trying to create a non-existent issue during an election campaign and for presenting [the newsletter] as anything other than an MP communicating with constituents on issues that are important to everyone," Mr. White said in a statement yesterday.

    The Liberals said they had no idea what Mr. White was talking about. "The criticism did not come from us," Thoren Hudyma, a spokeswoman for the federal Liberal campaign in B.C., said yesterday. Steve Ferguson, the Liberal candidate in Langley- Abbotsford, was not available for comment.

    Heather, 10, vanished in early October near her father's townhouse complex. Three weeks later, her body was found floating in a lake east of Vancouver. A 23-year-old man has been charged with abduction and first-degree murder.

    Jody Thomas, Heather's mother, told CBC Radio she was appalled by Mr. White's use of her daughter's image. "It even sounds sick to a point," Ms. Thomas said. "You don't use that to get yourself elected. That's not right."

    Mr. White did not return calls yesterday, but said in the statement the newsletter, House in the Valley, was not part of his re-election bid, but an ongoing effort to communicate with constituents.

    The autumn 2000 issue of House in the Valley features a photo of Heather as part of a Vancouver Sun newspaper article on the girl's disappearance. The image

  2. Re:CBC bias on CBC Opens ZeD.cbc.ca Code · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Debate, good. About "The Valour and the Horror". Just because people criticism something doesn't make it wrong. I'm assuming you are talking about veterans that where upset with the show saying that the carpet bombing of cities having "constituted a violation of the principles of humanity" as laid out in http://www.waramps.ca/news/valour/valour.pdf this pdf. If so, the veterans said that the carpet bombing wasn't in "violation of principles of humanity" and made a submission to the CRTC to that effect. Although The Supreme Court ruled on March 7, 1996, that a private group of veterans could not proceed with a libel suit involving the CBC and the series' producers for defamation, the CBC did stop airing the show.

    Now, I'm not going to open up the can of worms over carpet and firebombing of cities, I'm not even sure where I stand on the issues but I don't see it as being something that shouldn't be looked at. The fact is that carpet and firebombing did kill many people in these cities. People who didn't support the war or Nazies. And as i said, the CBC did stop airing the show http://www.waramps.ca/news/valour/96-04-03.html press release

    For Hakim Faqiryar, the other media didn't cover that issue much. Searching the Canadian Newsstand, a newspaper database of most of the newspapers in Canada. only turned up passing references to him. There is one article about it, but that's after the liberals pushed him out of running. Searching for Hakim Faqiryar and Al-Quaida didn't turn up any results. Now Hakim Faqiryar did make anti-jewish comments and that was reported on by media (The Calgary Herald) but not by the CBC. However, CBC did cover (3 paragraph piece) the lawsuit that Hakim Faqiryar launch against Stockwell Day after Mr. Day made comments on this. I couldn't find out way come of the suit.

    Neil Macdonald has been removed from the middle east file in 2003. However, he has made the odd comment on Israel /Palestinian. Neil Macdonald is biased. However, the CBC did try to move him to a place where he wouldn't comment much on Israel /Palestinian. Should the CBC fire him? Perhaps. I'm not a huge fan of Ms. McDonough, but does being rich mean you can't call for greater taxes for rich people? Seems to me they are the best people to call for higher taxes for rich people. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/mcdonough.html from cbc, saying father was a millionaire. There are other pieces of McDonough. The rreason, I believe, the CBC doesn't attack the NDP that much is because, it's not a powerful party. It only holds 18 seats out of 302. Why spend time on a party with only 18 seats? Plus, the CBC doesn't attack leaders. At least on their website. I couldn't find a story attacking a leader as a person.

    It's "The Greatest Canadian" not the best Canadian. And where all the portrayals "entirely complete and balanced" of course not. It was just a show to raise the profile of some of the Canadians in our past. And wasn't wrong with the voting? The "vote as much as you want'? Anyone, could vote as much as they want.

    "However, the CBC completely missed the fact that there was a husband and wife running in adjacent Vancouver-area ridings for the Conservatives, and didn't mention it until they had actually won" Really? http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 29/married_mp040629.html I'll give you that the CBC can be a bit too "Ontario is the center of Canada" It's also possible they didn't know about the Grewals. After all, Layton is the leader of a federal party. The Grewals are just backbencher MPs, and before the election weren't even MPs. The CBC is Ontario biased. And maybe more left then right, but it's far from "Very left"