Like I stated earlier, this election wasn't a complete blowout in the popular vote, and hopefully the democrats realize that a win by a few percent doesn't give them license to go hog-wild on every single platform issue.
So you're saying that you hope he's nothing at all like a Republican?
The reason why Nixon, reagan, and W all broke the law so much is because there is NO real penalty. W and his admin MUST be investigated.
I like to call it "Ford's Folly" that got us into this mess. Nixon could have gotten away with some trivial slap on the wrist as long as it was done. Due to that failure Reagan knew he could get away with far more severe crimes and he and his entire administration needed to do years of hard time. Since we once again failed to hold our rulers accountable, Bush and co pulled shit that they need to hang for. Anything less will send the same damn message that the President is above the law.
I'm still puzzled how libertarians can vote for him. Sure he can lead, and the country might prosper, but it won't be in the direction I want.
Libertarians can vote him if they're of the mindset that they'd rather vote for the major party that is closest to their ideals than the one farthest away (and of course if they don't want to vote for a third party).
The Republicans took over the mantle of biggest big government supporters long ago. So now we have two major big government parties. The Democrats who believe in some restraint in government spending and the Republicans who believe in no restraint in increasing the size of the government.
It's not like this isn't obvious (go look at the numbers) and it's not recent (Reagan was the big government king until Bush. Reagan took that mantle from FDR).
However, Republicans are Fascists which is the extreme right wing, so any movement to the left *is* towards Classical Liberalism, which is more or less the position of libertarians. You have to go past that and keep going to even hit the left side of the board.
So, it's pretty sad to see a libertarian as stupid as you must be to have fallen for such silly Republican propaganda. I mean a few minutes of thought and a little bit of knowledge would make these things obvious to you.
Many people thought we were getting the lesser of two evils when Bush was elected over Gore.
Those people weren't exactly what you'd call smart. In fact, they're generally the bottom of the barrel of our society. I mean imagine being *that* fucking stupid. I wonder if it's like being a bug or something.
the stimulus checks are not an example of redistribution since everyone got a check.
Bullshit. I pay plenty of taxes and have yet to see one of those fucking checks. I am, however, still paying the interest on the loan that was taken out to send them to the rest of you.
I've always wondered what it would feel like to life in a welfare state.
Just move to almost any one of the red states. They like to screech like mad about taxes, but they don't actually pay any and in fact receive large welfare payments. This hypocritical delusion is critical to their world view, which explains their inability to deal with reality as if they were rational adults.
You're right, they should have decided to have one white and one asian baby. Shame on them for marrying the person they love and then producing kids without using unknown genetic engineering technologies. The horror.
Where are all the so-called "conservative" Republicans, and what did the religious wackos and crazy spending neocons do with them?
They left the Republican party back in the 50s to form the Libertarian Party due to the religious wackos and big spending fascists taking over the party.
collapse. Of course the most notable thing that happened there was the dems controlling congress and doing nothing about it.
And therefore merely allowing the Republican agenda to continue unimpeded?
And yet you say:
Only the most shallowest and partisan hack can look at the problems we are in and claim that the republicans are the reason.
So you'd have to be dumb to blame the Republicans for their decisions while a paragon of intelligence like yourself knows that the Democrats are to blame because they went along with the Republican's agenda. So blaming the driving force behind something is stupid while blaming those who merely went along with stupid ideas is perfectly cool?
Blacks not voting for Palin/McCain is like blacks not voting for David Duke (no big surprise)
While I don't know about David Duke specifically, it's pretty amusing that even some of his fellow Nazis were for Obama.
Just goes to show, while they may be pinheaded racist redneck pieces of shit even they're not stupid enough to vote McCain;-) Really says something about those who were.
I don't know about you, but I like some civility in my politics. Maybe I'm being naive, but then I voted for a guy who sort of shares my beliefs, and gave a classy shout-out to his losing opponent
If you were honest about wanting civility in politics then you would not have voted Republican since their whole MO is screeching hatred and epithets. "Your either with us or against us". I'm very sorry that a massive police state government is what you believe in, but thankfully more Americans decided to reject fascism, ignorance and blind hatred.
It was good of McCain to act like a decent human being in his speech, but since his campaign offered nothing but "Obama is a Muslim Socialist who's going to destroy America" and "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran", it didn't magically transform him into a decent human being.
Now if only more of his fans on Slashdot show the same civility...
It's a reasonable reaction to 30 years of Republican hate mongering and lies. You might want to look at the Republican fans whose lack of civility dwarfs anything Obama's supporters did. Oh, wait that would involve personal responsibility, so I'm mot betting it will ever happen.
It's funny, though... Obama is quite possibly the biggest con man I've ever seen.
You must be pretty young then if you never saw Reagan. Largest growth of the US government since FDR and until Bush and still the saint of "conservatism". That's a far more extreme con than you'll likely ever see again.
remember kids, Lieberman is a Democrat in name only
No, that was a long time ago. Now he's not even that. He's a fringe fascist Republican who is an independent in name only. He left the Democrats after losing the primary. Technically he's the representative of Israel more than the US.
We need to replace everyone up there were someone new! We the people need to walk out on the floor point to the whole crew and say "You're Fired!"
Won't happen as long as the nitwits (most of the population of the US regardless of party affiliation) keep complaining about "lack of experience" as if it were a bad thing. I don't want some sick sons of bitches who are very fucking good at slopping pork and fucking me over.
Experience in the federal legislature is experience at being one of the worst scum in the world.
I don't care if somebody doesn't know how the current system is set up to work, because it's set up to work against me.
The idea that being a politician was a valid career choice would have made our founding fathers puke and take up arms against the bastards.
that's a really bad comic actually... way too extreme...
Ahhh, I take it you're not familiar with Chick's work. That's typical of it, not extreme at all. Millions of "Christians" in America believe every word of his lunacy. That's why we face such a threat to freedom by those fucking lunatics. That's the type of insanity they really truly believe is reality.
Some of my fellow faith-mates do make the rest of us look pretty silly.
Dude, you're an adult who believes in myths of magical invisible fairies made up by primitive savages who had the excuse that they were too ignorant to know better. All of you look extremely silly due to the very nature of the thing that makes you a group. That's unavoidable. Believe whatever lunatic nonsense you want to, but please don't for one second pretend that it isn't silly.
How can you call us Nazis when Bush accepted every contrary media as part of free speech, and your guys first move is to try and squelch the other side?
In the first place, "your guys" doesn't apply. There are plenty of actual arguments to be made against Obama, including his vote for the telecom immunity act which was an act of treason. Of course, your guy voted for that too, so you're stuck with silly asinine arguments since McCain and the Republican party are far far worse than the Democrats.
I'm essentially a Classical Liberal which means I believe in small government, fiscal responsibility, freedom and all of that. You know, like the constitution lays out. So while I dislike the Democrats and their excesses, looking at just the 2 major parties, absolutely objectively, the Republicans are far worse in every area. Big government? Absolutely. Republicans win this hands down. Reagan beat FDR's record for *growth* of the government and Bush recently beat Reagan's record. Fiscal irresponsibility? Republicans again. They know no restraint and spend like mad at interest on crazy pork bullshit like Moose Fucker's bridge to nowhere. Anti-Liberty? Right, death camps, universal surveillance, kicking down doors of people's homes and dragging patriotic citizens off to jail like at the Republican convention.
How do you even live with yourself, and say the lies you say?
This is completely laughable. You are so far out on the loony fascist fringe that you assume anybody with legitimate complaints about your Fuhrer must be an Obama supporter, when disgust with the Republicans is all over the political spectrum and includes everybody *except* right wing extremists. You know, like the Nazis. That's where you fall on the political spectrum and the system that you are arguing in support of. Arguing against your disgusting position doesn't constitute communism or even anything remotely near the left. It's called sanity. That's all it takes to see you for the big government police state fascist asshat you are.
Your side would cave in like it does to every other insurgency on the planet. You caved to the likes of the Weather Underground and the Nation of Islam in the 1960s, you tried to cave into the Bader Meinhoff in the 1970s, you caved to the IRA and the PLO under Clinton, and begged to cave into Al Sadr and Al Qaeda in Iraq...
So given the groups you identify with, you have the audacity to call wanting the government to be subject to the same laws as the people "treason"?
What a dirty, cowardly little nazi piece of shit you are.
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Like I stated earlier, this election wasn't a complete blowout in the popular vote, and hopefully the democrats realize that a win by a few percent doesn't give them license to go hog-wild on every single platform issue.
So you're saying that you hope he's nothing at all like a Republican?
I could not agree more.
The reason why Nixon, reagan, and W all broke the law so much is because there is NO real penalty. W and his admin MUST be investigated.
I like to call it "Ford's Folly" that got us into this mess. Nixon could have gotten away with some trivial slap on the wrist as long as it was done.
Due to that failure Reagan knew he could get away with far more severe crimes and he and his entire administration needed to do years of hard time. Since we once again failed to hold our rulers accountable, Bush and co pulled shit that they need to hang for. Anything less will send the same damn message that the President is above the law.
1) restore integrity to the white house;
I pray that he brings back Powell
Let me guess, you're tall and short. You have one leg and you have two legs. You think 1=2.
In short you directly contradicted yourself right there.
You can't "restore integrity" by bringing back a scumbag whose complete lack of integrity helped get us into the fucking mess in the first place.
I'm still puzzled how libertarians can vote for him. Sure he can lead, and the country might prosper, but it won't be in the direction I want.
Libertarians can vote him if they're of the mindset that they'd rather vote for the major party that is closest to their ideals than the one farthest away (and of course if they don't want to vote for a third party).
The Republicans took over the mantle of biggest big government supporters long ago. So now we have two major big government parties. The Democrats who believe in some restraint in government spending and the Republicans who believe in no restraint in increasing the size of the government.
It's not like this isn't obvious (go look at the numbers) and it's not recent (Reagan was the big government king until Bush. Reagan took that mantle from FDR).
However, Republicans are Fascists which is the extreme right wing, so any movement to the left *is* towards Classical Liberalism, which is more or less the position of libertarians. You have to go past that and keep going to even hit the left side of the board.
So, it's pretty sad to see a libertarian as stupid as you must be to have fallen for such silly Republican propaganda. I mean a few minutes of thought and a little bit of knowledge would make these things obvious to you.
Many people thought we were getting the lesser of two evils when Bush was elected over Gore.
Those people weren't exactly what you'd call smart. In fact, they're generally the bottom of the barrel of our society. I mean imagine being *that* fucking stupid. I wonder if it's like being a bug or something.
the stimulus checks are not an example of redistribution since everyone got a check.
Bullshit. I pay plenty of taxes and have yet to see one of those fucking checks. I am, however, still paying the interest on the loan that was taken out to send them to the rest of you.
GOP socialism is the worst kind of socialism anyone could ever think of.
That's because it's not Socialism, it's Fascism. Far other end of the political spectrum, Dude.
I've always wondered what it would feel like to life in a welfare state.
Just move to almost any one of the red states. They like to screech like mad about taxes, but they don't actually pay any and in fact receive large welfare payments. This hypocritical delusion is critical to their world view, which explains their inability to deal with reality as if they were rational adults.
I was thinking of Obama, his wife, and his kids.
You're right, they should have decided to have one white and one asian baby. Shame on them for marrying the person they love and then producing kids without using unknown genetic engineering technologies.
The horror.
Where are all the so-called "conservative" Republicans, and what did the religious wackos and crazy spending neocons do with them?
They left the Republican party back in the 50s to form the Libertarian Party due to the religious wackos and big spending fascists taking over the party.
What would you label me - a fiscal conservative, civil libertarian, and social liberal? Am I a conservaliberalterian?
You are a Liberal. Well at least given what that word meant when America was explicitly founded on the principles of Liberalism.
Unfortunately, as you point out, there isn't any longer a word in American English to describe the philosophy upon which it's founded.
collapse. Of course the most notable thing that happened there was the dems controlling congress and doing nothing about it.
And therefore merely allowing the Republican agenda to continue unimpeded?
And yet you say:
Only the most shallowest and partisan hack can look at the problems we are in and claim that the republicans are the reason.
So you'd have to be dumb to blame the Republicans for their decisions while a paragon of intelligence like yourself knows that the Democrats are to blame because they went along with the Republican's agenda. So blaming the driving force behind something is stupid while blaming those who merely went along with stupid ideas is perfectly cool?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
The best analysis of this crisis that I've seen so far made the case that the cause was de-regulation of banking under Reagan.
Well, that plus his record setting spending of money that hadn't even been made yet.
Blacks not voting for Palin/McCain is like blacks not voting for David Duke (no big surprise)
While I don't know about David Duke specifically, it's pretty amusing that even some of his fellow Nazis were for Obama.
Just goes to show, while they may be pinheaded racist redneck pieces of shit even they're not stupid enough to vote McCain ;-)
Really says something about those who were.
Yeesh, mea culpa.
Once upon a time I got good scores in reading comprehension. I guess it's time for a refresher course.
I don't know about you, but I like some civility in my politics. Maybe I'm being naive, but then I voted for a guy who sort of shares my beliefs, and gave a classy shout-out to his losing opponent
If you were honest about wanting civility in politics then you would not have voted Republican since their whole MO is screeching hatred and epithets. "Your either with us or against us". I'm very sorry that a massive police state government is what you believe in, but thankfully more Americans decided to reject fascism, ignorance and blind hatred.
It was good of McCain to act like a decent human being in his speech, but since his campaign offered nothing but "Obama is a Muslim Socialist who's going to destroy America" and "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran", it didn't magically transform him into a decent human being.
Now if only more of his fans on Slashdot show the same civility ...
It's a reasonable reaction to 30 years of Republican hate mongering and lies. You might want to look at the Republican fans whose lack of civility dwarfs anything Obama's supporters did. Oh, wait that would involve personal responsibility, so I'm mot betting it will ever happen.
It's funny, though... Obama is quite possibly the biggest con man I've ever seen.
You must be pretty young then if you never saw Reagan.
Largest growth of the US government since FDR and until Bush and still the saint of "conservatism". That's a far more extreme con than you'll likely ever see again.
I know locally at least, almost all the incumbent members of congress went back for another term. Why is this, when approval ratings are so low?
Well, in the case of my district, the incumbent just got elected President ;-)
remember kids, Lieberman is a Democrat in name only
No, that was a long time ago. Now he's not even that. He's a fringe fascist Republican who is an independent in name only. He left the Democrats after losing the primary.
Technically he's the representative of Israel more than the US.
We need to replace everyone up there were someone new! We the people need to walk out on the floor point to the whole crew and say "You're Fired!"
Won't happen as long as the nitwits (most of the population of the US regardless of party affiliation) keep complaining about "lack of experience" as if it were a bad thing. I don't want some sick sons of bitches who are very fucking good at slopping pork and fucking me over.
Experience in the federal legislature is experience at being one of the worst scum in the world.
I don't care if somebody doesn't know how the current system is set up to work, because it's set up to work against me.
The idea that being a politician was a valid career choice would have made our founding fathers puke and take up arms against the bastards.
that's a really bad comic actually... way too extreme...
Ahhh, I take it you're not familiar with Chick's work. That's typical of it, not extreme at all. Millions of "Christians" in America believe every word of his lunacy. That's why we face such a threat to freedom by those fucking lunatics. That's the type of insanity they really truly believe is reality.
Some of my fellow faith-mates do make the rest of us look pretty silly.
Dude, you're an adult who believes in myths of magical invisible fairies made up by primitive savages who had the excuse that they were too ignorant to know better. All of you look extremely silly due to the very nature of the thing that makes you a group. That's unavoidable. Believe whatever lunatic nonsense you want to, but please don't for one second pretend that it isn't silly.
That would be stupid rather than just silly.
You can call me crazy, but when this Obama buddy of yours
I'll leave you to your loony echo chamber rants. You obviously aren't talking to me.
How can you call us Nazis when Bush accepted every contrary media as part of free speech, and your guys first move is to try and squelch the other side?
In the first place, "your guys" doesn't apply. There are plenty of actual arguments to be made against Obama, including his vote for the telecom immunity act which was an act of treason. Of course, your guy voted for that too, so you're stuck with silly asinine arguments since McCain and the Republican party are far far worse than the Democrats.
I'm essentially a Classical Liberal which means I believe in small government, fiscal responsibility, freedom and all of that. You know, like the constitution lays out. So while I dislike the Democrats and their excesses, looking at just the 2 major parties, absolutely objectively, the Republicans are far worse in every area. Big government? Absolutely. Republicans win this hands down. Reagan beat FDR's record for *growth* of the government and Bush recently beat Reagan's record. Fiscal irresponsibility? Republicans again. They know no restraint and spend like mad at interest on crazy pork bullshit like Moose Fucker's bridge to nowhere. Anti-Liberty? Right, death camps, universal surveillance, kicking down doors of people's homes and dragging patriotic citizens off to jail like at the Republican convention.
How do you even live with yourself, and say the lies you say?
This is completely laughable. You are so far out on the loony fascist fringe that you assume anybody with legitimate complaints about your Fuhrer must be an Obama supporter, when disgust with the Republicans is all over the political spectrum and includes everybody *except* right wing extremists. You know, like the Nazis. That's where you fall on the political spectrum and the system that you are arguing in support of.
Arguing against your disgusting position doesn't constitute communism or even anything remotely near the left. It's called sanity. That's all it takes to see you for the big government police state fascist asshat you are.
Your side would cave in like it does to every other insurgency on the planet. You caved to the likes of the Weather Underground and the Nation of Islam in the 1960s, you tried to cave into the Bader Meinhoff in the 1970s, you caved to the IRA and the PLO under Clinton, and begged to cave into Al Sadr and Al Qaeda in Iraq...
So given the groups you identify with, you have the audacity to call wanting the government to be subject to the same laws as the people "treason"?
What a dirty, cowardly little nazi piece of shit you are.